FrankenCastle vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
but wont he also be more willing becuase he knows frank can take it? so wouldent it pretty much even out?

It really is that much harder to bring Frankencastle down. Managing to puncture one of Frank's lung slightly would cripple Frank quite a bit. It would barely slow down Frankencastle, if at all.

From what I've seen of Frankencastle, the dude is fast enough to outmaneuver Hand ninjas effortlessly. When he has his facilities together, he takes advantage of his "enhancements" easily. IMHO, he's good enough to give Wolverine a fight all things considered equal.

Now he has increased strength, durability and a limited healing factor. Now... well... it's obvious. Wolverine's got a hell of a fight in front of him.

Originally posted by Trackz
well he was able to easily keep pace with daken, when he seemed slow before.

1. frank wasn't armed, and we really aren't positive on how much the pills effected deadpool, or how badly frank needed his pills. if both were in top shape i think we can agree frank would win.
2. CIS plagues deadpool a lot, i don't doubt that

let me cut this short, it's tiresome seeing as we agree on the major issue, but our interpretation of that fight is obviously different. I've been stating the same points over again, and so have you, at this point it's agree to disagree.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
After his training with Silver Samurai and change in mindset. Daken's beaten him before.

Sinister Spider-Man was a silly book, to put it lightly. Gargan basically got owned with one chop to the throat, pheromones proved to be working on him too in DW.

X-23 wasn't beating anyone. She had help from Armor and Pixie and Daken was still holding his own.

IMO Daken has survivability but his HF tends to be painfully slow compared to other high end HF chars the he is supposed to be like. I mean Logan on an infiltration job pretends to be a guy caught in a car bombing gets brought into base for hospital and regens within a very short time span. Daken it seems takes a few cuts and wacks and takes minutes to wolverine and deadpools seconds.

Originally posted by SamZED
Hmm.. I remember it ending with her stabbing him through the chest, maybe I remember it wrong. My point - Daken loses a lot. Much more often than he's supposed to with his abilities.

They stabbed each other at the same time. Those fights were chaotic and just few panels were shown. If Daken got beaten off-panel, then so did Weapon Omega, right? 😖hifty:

Same could be said just about any Dark Avenger. I believe Wolverine's training made him harder to manipulate via pheromones. Fight in Sinister Spider-Man can't be taken seriously.

Oh and I forgot to ask you... when did he lose to Lester? You mean when he cheapshotted him with that explosive arrow? That was a part of his plan. About their actual fight... in UXM #514 Bullseye was about to get killed.

Originally posted by Uriel005
IMO Daken has survivability but his HF tends to be painfully slow compared to other high end HF chars the he is supposed to be like. I mean Logan on an infiltration job pretends to be a guy caught in a car bombing gets brought into base for hospital and regens within a very short time span. Daken it seems takes a few cuts and wacks and takes minutes to wolverine and deadpools seconds.

Under Daniel Way's pen every character tend to heal slow...

Did you read Dark Reign The List Punisher one-shot and Franken-Castle #19? He heals crazy fast there.

you have to remember, Frank has plenty of weaponry, and he has the strength to keep wolverine away from him, if wolverine tries to get in close, he has to decapitate or it won't slow frank, if he stabs him in the gut, he gets a kick that sends him soaring.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Good point. But I personally don't think Wolverine's increased propensity for striking Frankencastle fatally will evenly counter-balance the increased trouble that Wolverine has in making fatal/crippling strikes stick.

It really is that much harder to bring Frankencastle down. Managing to puncture one of Frank's lung slightly would cripple Frank quite a bit. It would barely slow down Frankencastle, if at all.

From what I've seen of Frankencastle, the dude is fast enough to outmaneuver Hand ninjas effortlessly. When he has his facilities together, he takes advantage of his "enhancements" easily. IMHO, he's good enough to give Wolverine a fight all things considered equal.

Now he has increased strength, durability and a limited healing factor. Now... well... it's obvious. Wolverine's got a hell of a fight in front of him.

Theses are all very good points, Frank is much tougher now to beat then before. Only thing that change for Logan is that he will be more willing to uses lethal force on Frank and that he a much larger target now which tends to favor the smaller wolverine. This is without a doubt a far harder fight for wolverine then it was before. Next issue of Punisher/ dark wolverine should be interesting to say the least.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Next issue of Punisher/ dark wolverine should be interesting to say the least.

You have much faith in Way. Well, if he's gonna write Wolverine's HF like he did in Deep End arc... then I might agree. Otherwise it could result in a total disaster, a very inconsistent crossover.

well an unprepared and weakened frank took out wolverine...frank might win all four, still close though

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Frank for the majority.

Stalemate til further notice.

Frank for the majority.

Frank for the majority.

Dark Wolverine #89 = /endthread. crackers

Frankencastle vs (adamantium) logan:

Originally posted by guy222

cont...

Originally posted by guy222

FrankenCastle must be a strong sumb!tch.

Damn somebody already beat me to it. Anyway...

http://www.imagebam.com/image/abb03b92593258

IN.......YOUR.....FACE!!!!!!!

Considering that it was written by Way, it could be worse. I'm surprised Logan lasted that long.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Considering that it was written by Way, it could be worse. I'm surprised Logan lasted that long.

Dunno sounds like excuses to me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Considering that it was written by Way, it could be worse. I'm surprised Logan lasted that long.

Originally posted by Deadline
Dunno sounds like excuses to me.

The outcome doesn't bother me, it's the performance. Picture that fight written by Remender now.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So that was written by a biased author? No wonder he was able eto do what others have gret difficulty doing.

Daniel Way is the author of Wolverine: Origins. Can't count how many times he was KO'd in that series.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The outcome doesn't bother me, it's the performance. Picture that fight written by Remender now.

It may have been the same Frank now has superhuman stats and a HF.

Originally posted by Deadline
It may have been the same Frank now has superhuman stats and a HF.

facepalm

You read Franken-Castle #19? Are you telling me that the guy who has HF at least equal to Daken and adamantium skeleton wouldn't be able to take more punishment than him?

Again:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The outcome doesn't bother me, it's the performance.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
facepalm

You read Franken-Castle #19? Are you telling me that the guy who has HF at least equal to Daken and adamantium skeleton wouldn't be able to take more punishment than him?

Actually not yet but based on what he said to Daken he was trying to make the punishment last long. No spoliers please.