All-Star Superman Vs Silver Surfer

Started by biensalsa16 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
Looking at the outside corners of those turns it doesn't look like they're quite 90 degrees. Extremely close, but not quite.

SO, You meassure angles by the OUTSIDE corners?

In this case would not be the INSIDE corner the one that will give you the value? 😂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Excuse me but you do see where Silver Surfer is dodging and weaving while blasting walls at the same time as getting diced to pieces.

Combat speed and maneuverability goes to Superman? Show me Superman following a light speed signal through tight corridors and corners while punching/blasting through walls at the same time he's getting sliced to pieces.

WTF do you think was just shown with respect to the electronic signal (going at light speed) where Silver Surfer is not only dodging and weaving through laser defenses but getting sliced by them and still keeping up by maneuvering and blasting through obstacles?

Show me a single feat by Superman that surpasses this. That would involve Superman following a light speed signal, which weaves around tight corners, and Superman getting sliced up, and involves Superman punching/blasting his way through obstacles at the same time.

I will get you tomorrow, but FIRST OF ALL AND SO YOU CAN RE-CONSIDER YOUR CLAIMS

That is not a "light speed" signal, is an "electrical signal" moving at "electronic speeds" (god knows what the hell do they mean by that) but IS NOT LIGHT SPEED

And dodging? I saw more lasers connecting than not, and actually the first "LASER" cutting the SS was at 5 meters from the SS
So "nanosecond" reaction time DOES NOT SHOW IN THERE, MORE LIKE 5 NANOSECONDS REACTION TIME!, OH! WAIT ! HE DID NOT REACT IN TIME, HE GOT CUT!

EEEEEEEPIC FAIL 😂

^ ... electronic signals move at light speed...

... you're not very good at this are you?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ ... electronic signals move at light speed...
depends on the context of the transmittion

a deep space data pulse would be light speed, but electricity itself doesn't travel that fast

Silver Surfer has no weakness to exploit on Superman. This battle goes to Superman.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
depends on the context of the transmittion

a deep space data pulse would be light speed, but electricity itself doesn't travel that fast

Electricity =/= electronic signal.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't recall mentioning anything about "bumping into planets" in my post. Did you find that in the Apocrypha or the Director's Cut of my post perhaps?
Replace bumping into planets with missing their destination, and nothing changes.

Originally posted by victorymaker
Silver Surfer has no weakness to exploit on Superman. This battle goes to Superman.
Red sun radiation? Yellow sun radiation?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Replace bumping into planets with missing their destination, and nothing changes.
Seen as you claim he doesn't bump into planets because chances are small and he has a mental map of space, it does change things. Stopping would require a conscient decision made after realizing he had arrived at his destination. You could claim he can pre-program the board to stop somewhere before going off, but that is unfounded speculation and doesn't account for him actively tracking objects and enemies that change directions and stop unexpectedly at light speed all the time. He has several feats that envolve microsecond or nanosecond reaction time and action.

Originally posted by 753
Stopping would require a conscient decision made after realizing he had arrived his destination.
Why after? That's like saying a bus hits the breaks only when he is right besides the station. No, the bus knows where the station is. Knows how far it is. Knows how fast he is going, and when he must slow down in order to reach the location and not suddenly hit the breakes and plow through it accidentally.
Originally posted by 753
He has several feats that envolve microsecond or nanosecond reaction time and action.
That's another discussion. We're talking about him flying interstellar distances being significant to his actual combat speed.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Why after? That's like saying a bus hits the breaks only when he is right besides the station. No, the bus knows where the station is. Knows how far it is. Knows how fast he is going, and when he must slow down in order to reach the location and not suddenly hit the breakes and plow through it accidentally.
He must still be able to perceive his destination to estimate his arrival at it. With his senses, he can do it from farther away of course, but when an unpredictable target changes direction or stops cold and he stops right after it, that displays impressive reaction time on par with the target's speed.

But yes, his millions of times faster than light travel speed doesn't automatically or necessarilly translate into millions of times faster than light blitzing capacity. We still know he has reactions compatible with light speed combat.

Yes... Space travelling speed is not the same as... Super human rapidity...

Well, at least his insane flying speed helps him..run away, when he encounters an opponent with Superman's level of combat super human rapidity.

ha-som

like he ran away when he faced the runner?pwned

I said it helps him, not that he's bright enough to do so, like the referenced fight shows.

Originally posted by King Castle
like he ran away when he faced the runner?pwned
The Runner had hair and (presumably) genitals (hence the loincloth). These are issues for Soarin' Norrin.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Electricity =/= electronic signal.

Surfe is inside a computer, the electricity is moving in a CIRCUIT OR A MOTHERBOARD 😂

The speed of electric current
Since nothing visibly moves when the charge-sea flows, we cannot measure the speed of its flow by eye. Instead we do it by making some assumptions and doing a calculation. Let's say we have an electric current in normal lamp cord connected to bright light bulb. The electric current works out to be a flow of approximatly 3 inches per hour. Very slow!

Here's how I worked out that value. I know:

Bulb power: about 100 watts, about 100V at 1A
Value for electric current: I = 1 ampere
Wire diameter: D = 2/10 cm, radius R=.1cm
Mobile electrons per cc (for copper, if 1 per atom): Q = 8.5*10^+22
Charge per electron: e = 1.6*10^-19
The equation:

cm/sec = ________I_______ = .0023 cm/sec = 8.4 cm/hour
Q * e * R^2 * pi

I will be kind with your feat and say that it was moving faster than 3 inches per hour, BUT NOT THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

Electrical Current does not move that fast in wire

ALSO: THE SPEED OF THE CHARGES IS PROPORTIONAL TO THE VALUE OF ELECTRIC CURRENT

Right now I don't have the patience to see if biensalsa just used the ultimate nullifier on ODG, but here are some relevant scans:

Surfer first identifying what the world he is on:

The page right before the scans ODG posted, which he ommited:

And just for the lulz, here's Surfer from the same "I easily keep pace with things moving at lightspeed while weakened" issue, being almost outpaced by..:

haermm

^ I didn't "omit" that first page right before those scans. You know why? Because I never bothered reading the actual comic when I saw those scans in the respect thread! Ha! 😈

....

Not the first time I've been called out for not reading the actual comic. 😮

In fact... that's the second time in two days.

This I blame on darthgoober.

uhuh

For shame.

How's the Hulk respect thread? Are you going to include all the versions?