OneDumbG0
Find Your Own Fire
Originally posted by "Id"
There is nothing me to dumb down here, I see those scans for what they are. Absolutely nothing. In the spam of two panels you wish to sell the idea that Valkyrie sits on even ground with Gamora. For what? To argue that Kyle can not replicate Oblivion feats, by associating your exaggerated claims. No not exaggerate, but flat out [b]lie? we never even get to see a clear dominance from Valkyrie as you so oh-so humbly commented. [/b]
Excuse me, even ignoring your completely transparent attempts to drag Gamora down to Thor's level, are you really suggesting that the power of Oblivion was retained by Kyle AFTER he gave up the Ion energies? Because the only post classic-Ion amp he retained were the tweaks he made to his ring. A considerable amp to be sure, but the power of Oblivion? No. The power of Oblivion was enmeshed with the Central Battery energies Hallax stole and that was the Ion energies. And that's what Kyle mostly gave up to restore Oa and the Guardians.
Originally posted by "Id"
Find a different point of reference, because this one is borderline retarded. Your probably going respond, and continue to endorse this Gamora+ shenanigans. Go ahead, don’t be surprised if I decided to ignore your bullshit.
Yeah. Trying to ignore the exact parallel between your Oblivion/Kyle and Valkyrie/Thor was really defused when you suggested that "trained-for-eons" Asgardians could tool Gamora and Moondragon. Except Gamora literally played rope-a-dope with Thor in THE VERY NEXT ISSUE.
You even scanned that next issue and posted the scans. What? Tell me you see a difference between how Valkyrie fought Gamora and how Thor fought Gamora. Do that much for yourself, please. Otherwise, good job ignoring that Valkyrie actually demonstrated the chops to beat Moondragon and Gamora each down in 1v1 H2H combat. They are arguably two of the best martial artists in Marvel. Try and ignore that. And Valkyrie was a product of Thor's subconscious dark feelings. Try and ignore that.
Originally posted by "Id"
The comic book makes it very clear that each, and every one of those constructs are Kyle. This entire argument of yours isn’t about viability, but inability to accept the fact. The only way to claim that feats from his constructs are not viable, would be if they never happened in the first place. Tough they did happen, and now Kyle retains their experience in his mind.I sit comfortably with my comment for three simple reasons, which you have failed to debunk; those are his constructs, they are now part of his conscious mind, and he has the power to replicate the their feat.
Same old Valkyrie/Thor argument. You can pout til you're blue in the face about it. It's the same rationale. And if you love that rationale, by all means that's your opinion. In the meantime, I'll call it how I see it: Thor runs around with Gamora+ martial arts, he just never uses them. Like Kyle runs around with Oblivion feats, he just never uses them.
Comic book makes it very clear that the power of Oblivion merged with the Central Battery energies and turned into the Ion energies. Kyle doesn't have the Ion energies anymore. He gave them up, remember? At best, it's arguable he retains his post classic-Ion tweaks to his ring. Arguable, because dispositive evidence exists which suggests that Ganthet gave Kyle a normal GL ring during Sinestro Corps War -- and not the original one he abandoned. And for the sake of argument -- because it's all too easy to recognize this simple fact -- those ring tweaks =/= power of Oblivion. Fact.
[i]P.S. No more classy gifs? kinda
