Bible question and answers

Originally posted by King Castle
i take the latin/english bible with a grain of salt.. i had to after taking my religious classes and having to learn what the original text stated and what the modern one says...

pretty easy to see the difference side by side and your professor's aid is Arabic reading to you in the original language and translating it in english exactly giving you context of the word in his language and culture.

just how something that may be funny in spanish and can be said in 2 or 3 words loses its meaning in english and or becomes in insulting requiring a full sentence to express teh same idea.

Fact cannot always trump belief.

Originally posted by King Castle
pretty sad that the bible is so mistranslated and ppl still adhere to the idea that it is not.

the: Thou shall not allow a witch to live is so skewed from its original text that it has ppl thinking all witches are bad and should be killed.

sad that the original hebrew scripture text does not say that but, its cool ignorant ppl still think their latin/english bibles are a 100% accurate from the original text otherwise the church would have said something years ago..

🙄 😇

In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl2.htm

Good grief.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, just because I tell you that I do not have a statue of Buddha, you conclude I am not a Buddhist?

* that was not a conclusion… that was a question… I was asking you if you practice buddhism personally, but not in a religious way? and besides that practice, do you actually had no religious affiliation? I'm quite certain I did not forgot to include an appropriate punctuation mark…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That would be like me saying that you are not a Christian because you do not have a rosary.

* that's because I'm not a catholic…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not all Buddhist pray to a statue of Buddha, just like some Christians do not use rosary.

* Christians do not use rosary, catholics do… stop being so modest, mr.shakyamunison, and tell me frankly, is worshipping Buddha in accordance with Buddhism or not?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don’t think the word reject is accurate. It is more like we don’t care about those kinds of questions. Seeking answers to questions about creation or a supreme being does not lead to nirvana. We spend out time improving our life.

* and that's the reason why you make fun of the Christian doctrine when it comes to "creation" and "supreme being" concepts? is it part of your "spending your time to improve your life"?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is one of the reasons I do not believe Jesse was divine.

* that "council" has no authority over the Christian doctrine, they have no authority to decide which is which… it's like me forming a "council" and initiate a vote if Buddha is divine or not… does it make sense? nope… what makes much more sense was to research the writings and doctrines of Buddha…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My point is: Buddhist (the form of Buddhism I follow) do not worship, but you would think we do. This is because you do not understand what we are doing. This lack of knowledge, on your part, leads you to a false conclusion.

* okay, so what do you think you are doing that makes me think you are worshipping but in actuality you are not? to start off, my answers were based on the example way back… and it's about lighting a candle or an incense to a statue of Buddha… when you see someone do that to a statue of Mary, what would you think? is it worshipping or not?

* to me, you're double-standards… when it comes to Buddhism, to play defensive… but you're so offensive when it comes to Christianity… if you must know, the basis of faith in Christianity is the Bible, and the Bible tells us that idolatry of any kind is prohibited, so when you see catholics worshipping a statue, isn't it hard to accept that they are doing a wrong thing?

* now, going back to Buddhism, if your doctrine says that worshipping Buddha is prohibited, and when you see fellow Buddhists worshipping a statue of Buddha, isn't it hard to accept that they are doing a wrong thing? be firm, my friend…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then you should not over simplify other people’s religions.

* tracing the religion's roots (doctrine) is not over-simplifying… it's studying and applying what right according to what their doctrine says…

Originally posted by King Castle
in the bible what is it considered to be a witch or a warlock?

* someone who practices sorcery and such like… they are abominable in the sight of God:

"When you come into the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer,
Or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord; and because of these abominable practices the Lord your God is driving them out before you."
Deuteronomy 18:9-12

Originally posted by King Castle
also

is a marriage ceremony required by god?

* for formality, yes…

"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous."
Hebrews 13:4

* but the celebration, the party, the different kind of stuff added are not required… basically, marriage is an agreement or a covenant between a man and a woman… and the Bible says:

"Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man's covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it."
Galatians 3:15

Originally posted by King Castle
pretty sad that the bible is so mistranslated and ppl still adhere to the idea that it is not.

* of course the Bible might be mistranslated… but we have technology nowadays to confirmed if the the translation is correct or not…

Originally posted by King Castle
the: Thou shall not allow a witch to live is so skewed from its original text that it has ppl thinking all witches are bad and should be killed.

* if a Christian truly researches the word of God in the Bible, he will learn that Exodus 22:18 was outdated… it was only for the Israel:

"Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and ordinances that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel."
Malachi 4:4

* in the time of Christianity, the Bible says:

"So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all men, and especially to those who are of the household of faith."
Galatians 6:10

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ We all know that the KJ bible was written by god himself, and any other translation is by the devil.

* very untrue… ❌ trace it's roots, the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic manuscripts are available for research… then we can now learn what's written in the Bible correctly…

Originally posted by peejayd
* that was not a conclusion… that was a question… I was asking you if you practice buddhism personally, but not in a religious way? and besides that practice, do you actually had no religious affiliation? I'm quite certain I did not forgot to include an appropriate punctuation mark…

Your question confused me. Personal practice and Buddhist organization are not mutually exclusive. I am a member of SIG that means I am a Buddhist who is in a Buddhist organization. However, my form of Buddhism is a personal practice. Even though I have a personal practice, I attend weekly meeting with other Buddhists. Does that answer your question?

Originally posted by peejayd
* that's because I'm not a catholic…

But Catholics are Christians.

Originally posted by peejayd
* Christians do not use rosary, catholics do… stop being so modest, mr.shakyamunison, and tell me frankly, is worshipping Buddha in accordance with Buddhism or not?

When I look up Catholic in the dictionary it says that Catholics are a Christian denomination. It seems you have a personal definition of the word that is not found in the dictionary. The difference between you and I is that I do not create a personal definition of the word Buddhism for Buddhists who do not practice as I do. I also do not judge them, because I do not understand. Maybe you should not judge Catholics, because the problem you see maybe only in your head.

Originally posted by peejayd
* and that's the reason why you make fun of the Christian doctrine when it comes to "creation" and "supreme being" concepts? is it part of your "spending your time to improve your life"?

I don’t know why you are bringing this up. I do use sarcasm to get points across, but that is meant to improve your life.

Originally posted by peejayd
* that "council" has no authority over the Christian doctrine, they have no authority to decide which is which… it's like me forming a "council" and initiate a vote if Buddha is divine or not… does it make sense? nope… what makes much more sense was to research the writings and doctrines of Buddha…

But the members of the council were Christian leaders of the time.

Originally posted by peejayd
* okay, so what do you think you are doing that makes me think you are worshipping but in actuality you are not? to start off, my answers were based on the example way back… and it's about lighting a candle or an incense to a statue of Buddha… when you see someone do that to a statue of Mary, what would you think? is it worshipping or not?

I was trying to point out to you that Buddhism, like Christianity, is practiced differently through out the world. To make a generalization of Buddhism is just as precarious as make a generalization of Christianity.

Originally posted by peejayd
* to me, you're double-standards… when it comes to Buddhism, to play defensive… but you're so offensive when it comes to Christianity… if you must know, the basis of faith in Christianity is the Bible, and the Bible tells us that idolatry of any kind is prohibited, so when you see catholics worshipping a statue, isn't it hard to accept that they are doing a wrong thing?

Like before, Catholics are Christian. I know you are taught to hate them, but that does not change the fact. If facts offend you, then who is too blame.

Originally posted by peejayd
* now, going back to Buddhism, if your doctrine says that worshipping Buddha is prohibited, and when you see fellow Buddhists worshipping a statue of Buddha, isn't it hard to accept that they are doing a wrong thing? be firm, my friend…

I do not feel the same as you do when you see Christians not following the bible as you think they should. I celebrate their practice in Buddhism.

Originally posted by peejayd
* tracing the religion's roots (doctrine) is not over-simplifying… it's studying and applying what right according to what their doctrine says…

What I mean is that you are over simplifying Buddhism.

Originally posted by peejayd
* very untrue… ❌ trace it's roots, the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic manuscripts are available for research… then we can now learn what's written in the Bible correctly…

It’s called sarcasm.

interesting and completely beside the point... peejayed is trying to compare the lighting incense and bowing to show respect the founder of Buddhism to the same thing as a catholic or christian murmuring or praying to a statue, kissing it or crying to it(idolatry as being the same).

anyways........

in the bible it said that once you lay down with a woman you are married in the eyes of the lord.. 😇

so again i ask which is it or is it both?

are you married to your brother's wife if he dies and you must perform his husbandly duties? how about if you sleep with your servant and she bears your child?

Originally posted by King Castle
interesting and completely beside the point... peejayed is trying to compare the lighting incense and bowing to show respect the founder of Buddhism to the same thing as a catholic or christian murmuring or praying to a statue, kissing it or crying to it(idolatry as being the same).

anyways........

in the bible it said that once you lay down with a woman you are married in the eyes of the lord.. 😇

so again i ask which is it or is it both?

are you married to your brother's wife if he dies and you must perform his husbandly duties? how about if you sleep with your servant and she bears your child?

I thought Catholic and Christian are one the same?

Also, any type of idols are disallowed in Eastern Christianity and none can be found in Churches. Also, I thought the Protestants don't have any of that around, either, pictures or statues? So it is mainly Catholics then...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I thought Catholic and Christian are one the same?

Also, any type of idols are disallowed in Eastern Christianity and none can be found in Churches. Also, I thought the Protestants don't have any of that around, either, pictures or statues? So it is mainly Catholics then...

they are the same as in they are both worshipers of christ...

both christians and catholics also have crosses some ppl wear them and use them as part of their prayers some even kiss them and whatnot.. 😇

i guess it depends what christian church you are a part of.. some may not have anything like statues, cross or whatever.. some may have a glaring cross with christ on it..

i can't tell you about the others.. i only bn to christian, catholic and mormon church.. but like everything else there are exceptions

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your question confused me. Personal practice and Buddhist organization are not mutually exclusive. I am a member of SIG that means I am a Buddhist who is in a Buddhist organization. However, my form of Buddhism is a personal practice. Even though I have a personal practice, I attend weekly meeting with other Buddhists. Does that answer your question?

* yes, actually… it clears much though… what confused me was when you said you're not a "typical" Buddhist… that's the reason why I asked… because there are many people who use the doctrines and/or philosophies of Buddhism only as a practice, not as a religion… the "self-enlightenment" and what have you but they do not attend Buddhism services/meetings…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But Catholics are Christians.

* in society, yes… in the Bible, no…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When I look up Catholic in the dictionary it says that Catholics are a Christian denomination. It seems you have a personal definition of the word that is not found in the dictionary. The difference between you and I is that I do not create a personal definition of the word Buddhism for Buddhists who do not practice as I do. I also do not judge them, because I do not understand. Maybe you should not judge Catholics, because the problem you see maybe only in your head.

* I do not judge them… you just refuse to accept the fact that there is a sole basis of faith… I've reiterating this many times… you're a Buddhist, what is your basis of faith? of course, the doctrines of Buddha… Buddha rejects worship… so if you see fellow Buddhists who worship Buddha, is it hard to accept what he's doing is wrong? just be truthful and frank, mr.shakyamunison…

* now, in that same manner, what is the basis of faith of Christians? from the word itself, Christian means follower/disciple of Christ… the basis of faith should be the words of Christ and the apostles in the Bible, right? you know very well that idolatry is prohibited in the Bible, so if you see Catholics worshipping graven images, is it hard to accept what they're doing is wrong?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don’t know why you are bringing this up. I do use sarcasm to get points across, but that is meant to improve your life.

* improve my life? how? you're saying I was "judging" Catholics when I point out errors in Catholic doctrines… but when you attack Christianity, you say it's "sarcasm" to improve someone else's life? duh?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But the members of the council were Christian leaders of the time.

* they are the Catholic leaders and the Roman empire leaders in that time…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was trying to point out to you that Buddhism, like Christianity, is practiced differently through out the world.

* I do agree with that…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
To make a generalization of Buddhism is just as precarious as make a generalization of Christianity.

* my only point is to learn the true doctrine of a certain religion, and from that point on, we can discern if what we are doing, in our own respective religions, is right or wrong…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Like before, Catholics are Christian. I know you are taught to hate them, but that does not change the fact. If facts offend you, then who is too blame.

* I don't hate Catholics, don't put words in my mouth… attacking their doctrine does not mean I hate all Catholic people, most of my friends and relatives are Catholics… I don't hate the person…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not feel the same as you do when you see Christians not following the bible as you think they should. I celebrate their practice in Buddhism.

* you're a hypocrite, mr.shakyamunison… there are "wrongs" and "rights" in Buddhism, same as in Christianity… you're just afraid to tell the truth… you're just afraid to put Buddhism in a bad light…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What I mean is that you are over simplifying Buddhism.

* you're blind and stubborn if you don't accept that people worshipping Buddha is wrong…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It’s called sarcasm.

* or a mockery?

Originally posted by King Castle
interesting and completely beside the point... peejayed is trying to compare the lighting incense and bowing to show respect the founder of Buddhism to the same thing as a catholic or christian murmuring or praying to a statue, kissing it or crying to it(idolatry as being the same).

* you left me in the air, dude… this conversation started because of you! 😛 see here:

Originally posted by King Castle
does a foreign custom and laws violate the bible and gods word and law?

not really the question itself, here is the question:

if you were visiting another country and you were required to bow to a person or object and make an offering would you do it and would it be okay with god?

what does god say about being civil toward your host?

Originally posted by peejayd
"[b]Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."
Romans 13:1

"Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor."
Romans 13:7

* Christians should be law-abiding citizens, the asset of society...[/B]

Originally posted by King Castle
so you would light a candle or incense and bow b4 Buddha statue or some random idol?

why did the jews refuse to follow roman laws and customs then?

Originally posted by peejayd
* there are customs and traditions which do not conflict with the Christian doctrine and does not have any religious color whatsoever, so doing that is okay... 🙂 of course, the act of worshipping Buddha is a no-no...

see?

Originally posted by King Castle
anyways........

in the bible it said that once you lay down with a woman you are married in the eyes of the lord.. 😇

so again i ask which is it or is it both?

* marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman… sex outside marriage can be tagged as "fornication", which is prohibited in the Bible…

Originally posted by King Castle
are you married to your brother's wife if he dies and you must perform his husbandly duties?

* no… Old Testament stuff…

Originally posted by King Castle
how about if you sleep with your servant and she bears your child?

* the Bible teaches sex with love and responsibility… if you impregnated your servant, you must be responsible enough to support her and the child…

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I thought Catholic and Christian are one the same?

* in religious denomination, yes they are… but in doctrine, I'm afraid not…

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Also, any type of idols are disallowed in Eastern Christianity and none can be found in Churches. Also, I thought the Protestants don't have any of that around, either, pictures or statues? So it is mainly Catholics then...

* it's good you got my point…

Originally posted by peejayd
* yes, actually… it clears much though… what confused me was when you said you're not a "typical" Buddhist… that's the reason why I asked… because there are many people who use the doctrines and/or philosophies of Buddhism only as a practice, not as a religion… the "self-enlightenment" and what have you but they do not attend Buddhism services/meetings…

I am not a typical Buddhist, because I used to be a Christian, then an agnostic before I became a Buddhist. That makes my beliefs a little different. I always tell people that I am not a typical Buddhist because I want then to seek out what Buddhism is instead of just taking my word for it.

Originally posted by peejayd
* in society, yes… in the Bible, no…

The bible does not say “Catholics are not Christians”.

Originally posted by peejayd
* I do not judge them… you just refuse to accept the fact that there is a sole basis of faith… I've reiterating this many times… you're a Buddhist, what is your basis of faith? of course, the doctrines of Buddha… Buddha rejects worship… so if you see fellow Buddhists who worship Buddha, is it hard to accept what he's doing is wrong? just be truthful and frank, mr.shakyamunison…

What is a sole basis of faith?

My faith is based on what works. For example, I have faith that when I walk into a dark room and flip the light switch the light will come on. In the same way I have faith that my Buddhist practice will improve my life because it already has.

Buddhism is not about right or wrong. Buddhism is about winning.

If someone is doing wrong, they my need to be corrected, and that is done my pointing out the wrong things they are doing. However, worshiping Buddha as a god is not a wrong thing. A wrong thing would be hurting people, and worshiping Buddha as a god does not hurt anyone.

Originally posted by peejayd
* now, in that same manner, what is the basis of faith of Christians? from the word itself, Christian means follower/disciple of Christ… the basis of faith should be the words of Christ and the apostles in the Bible, right? you know very well that idolatry is prohibited in the Bible, so if you see Catholics worshipping graven images, is it hard to accept what they're doing is wrong?

You would have to be sure that they are worshipping graven images. If you ask a Catholic if they were worshipping graven images, they would say no. Why would you not believe them?

Originally posted by peejayd
* improve [b]my life? how? you're saying I was "judging" Catholics when I point out errors in Catholic doctrines… but when you attack Christianity, you say it's "sarcasm" to improve someone else's life? duh? [/B]

How can I attach Christianity? I am just one person and Christianity is a giant world wide organization. I am pointing out things that are wrong, and sometimes the best way to do that is with humor. We are really talking about you personally being offended by what people say about Christianity. May I give you some advice? Do not take it personally. This will fix your problem, and maybe change your perspective.

Originally posted by peejayd
* they are the Catholic leaders and the Roman empire leaders in that time…

So? It’s all the same. They put together the bible you use.

Originally posted by peejayd
* I do agree with that…

Christianity is diverse.

Originally posted by peejayd
* my only point is to learn the true doctrine of a certain religion, and from that point on, we can discern if what we are doing, in our own respective religions, is right or wrong…

Nichiren studied all the Buddhist text in Japan in the 13th century, and he concluded that the Lotus Sutra was the king of all sutras.

Originally posted by peejayd
* I don't hate Catholics, don't put words in my mouth… attacking their doctrine does not mean I hate all Catholic people, most of my friends and relatives are Catholics… I don't hate the person…

Come now, I used to be a Christian, and from what I have read, your beliefs are not very far from what I used to believe. I was taught to believe that Catholics were the church of Satan. I can imagine you were taught the same thing. Your religion teaches you to hate Satan; therefore hating Satan’s church is a natural extension.

Originally posted by peejayd
* you're a hypocrite, mr.shakyamunison… there are "wrongs" and "rights" in Buddhism, same as in Christianity… you're just afraid to tell the truth… you're just afraid to put Buddhism in a bad light…

What are these rights and wrong? I await your answer.

Originally posted by peejayd
* you're blind and stubborn if you don't accept that people worshipping Buddha is wrong…

Why? That would be like me saying that you are blind and stubborn if you don't accept that Catholics are Christian. That would be a very stupid thing for me to say.

Originally posted by peejayd
* or a mockery?

No. Sarcasm is my style.

Someone knows there bible.

not even close its called google and religion quote sites.

the only god that is speaking is google, you might have heard if it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am not a typical Buddhist, because I used to be a Christian, then an agnostic before I became a Buddhist. That makes my beliefs a little different. I always tell people that I am not a typical Buddhist because I want then to seek out what Buddhism is instead of just taking my word for it.

* okay…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible does not say “Catholics are not Christians”.

* yes, because the word "catholic" is not even found in the Bible… Christians are disciples/followers of the teachings of Christ… and what did Jesus said who really are His disciples?

"Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,"
John 8:31

* idolatry is prohibited in the teachings of Christ… 'nuff said…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What is a sole basis of faith?

* the very foundation of a religion -> its doctrines…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Buddhism is not about right or wrong. Buddhism is about winning.

If someone is doing wrong, they my need to be corrected, and that is done my pointing out the wrong things they are doing. However, worshiping Buddha as a god is not a wrong thing. A wrong thing would be hurting people, and worshiping Buddha as a god does not hurt anyone.

* having a fellow Buddhist continue to worship Buddha - with you knowing that Buddha himself rejects worship - is not winning… you're permitting a fellow Buddhist to continue doing something you know is not right… it's not winning in any way…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You would have to be sure that they are worshipping graven images. If you ask a Catholic if they were worshipping graven images, they would say no. Why would you not believe them?

* an obvious copout… many people was being deceived… these are some of Catholic doctrines:

- The use of sacred images, candles, vestments and music, and often incense and water, in worship.

- Veneration of Mary, the mother of Jesus as the Blessed Virgin Mary or Theotokos (i.e., "God-bearer" or "Mother of God"😉, and veneration of the saints.

- A distinction between adoration (latria) for God, and veneration (dulia) for saints. The term hyperdulia is used for a special veneration accorded to the Virgin Mary among the saints.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism

* for them not to be accused of idolatry, the Catholic doctrine used the word "veneration" instead of "worship" to imply that they are only "respecting" Mary and the saints… but from the itself, "veneration" means worship:

Word Origin & History
veneration

early 15c., from M.Fr. veneration , from L. venerationem (nom. veneratio ) "reverence," from venerari "to worship, revere," from venus (gen. veneris ) "beauty, love, desire"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/veneration

Word Origin & History
venerate

1620s, from L. veneratus , pp. of venerari "to reverence, worship"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/venerate

* Catholics admit that they are using images in worship… it's so obvious… they even altered the Ten Commandments written in the Bible:

The Ten Commandments are among the initial religious values taught to children. The Roman Catholic Church teaches only nine of these commandments. The second commandment forbids idolatry. Catholic teaching conceals this command to conceal the idolatry that permeates its traditions.

The second commandment states, “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.” (Exodus 20:4-6)

Refusing to recognize the second commandment created a problem; it would have been foolhardy to present only nine commandments. Therefore, interpreters split the final commandment into two commands, “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, [Catholic 9th Command] or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor [Catholic 10th Command].” (Exodus 20:17)

http://www.catholicdoctrine.org/index_002.htm

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How can I attach Christianity? I am just one person and Christianity is a giant world wide organization. I am pointing out things that are wrong, and sometimes the best way to do that is with humor.

* there are "rights" and "wrongs" in Christianity… there are "do's" and don'ts" in Christianity… why would Buddhism be treated differently… you're biased, you're impartial, and you're not telling the truth… there are also "rights" and "wrongs" in Buddhism… don't be a hypocrite…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We are really talking about you personally being offended by what people say about Christianity. May I give you some advice? Do not take it personally. This will fix your problem, and maybe change your perspective.

* I'm not taking it personally… but I take religion seriously… committing in a religion is not a joke… for a Buddhist like you, you should know better…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So? It’s all the same. They put together the bible you use.

* considering they are the ones who "put the Bible together", they sure made a very good way of setting an example:

Bible: idolatry is prohibited
Catholic doctrine: use images in worship, venerate Mary and the saints

* wow… 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Come now, I used to be a Christian, and from what I have read, your beliefs are not very far from what I used to believe. I was taught to believe that Catholics were the church of Satan. I can imagine you were taught the same thing. Your religion teaches you to hate Satan; therefore hating Satan’s church is a natural extension.

* you say when you were a "christian", you were taught that catholics were the church of satan… if so, how come you always claim that catholics are christians? when you were a christian, you were obviously not a catholic… those two are different…

* you refuse to accept the obvious… attacking the doctrine does not equal hating the person… you are a fool if you attack Christianity and you also hate all Christian people… in the Christian doctrine, it is a commandment to respect/honor all people (Christian or not) and do good to all:

"Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor."
I Peter 2:17

"So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all men, and especially to those who are of the household of faith."
Galatians 6:10

* teaching you otherwise proves that your "christian" religious affiliation way back was not really a Christian group after all… claiming is one thing, but proving is another thing… being a Christian is not done by "claiming"… read these passages:

"Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?
And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers."
Matthew 7:21-23

"Then he will say to those at his left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels;
For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.
Then they also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?
Then he will answer them, Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me."
Matthew 25:41-45

* see? not just because you think you're doing what you think is right, then it's okay… nope, just like what I've said earlier, we should learn the true doctrine of a certain religion, and from that point on, we can discern if what we are doing, in our own respective religions, is right or wrong…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What are these rights and wrong? I await your answer.

* the Christian doctrine has commandments, abiding these commandments are the "rights" and disobeying these are the "wrongs"… in sam manner, in Buddhism, there are Ten Precepts:

1 - To refrain from taking life (non-violence towards sentient life forms), or ahimsâ
2 - To refrain from taking that which is not given (not committing theft)
3 - To refrain from sensual (including sexual) misconduct
4 - To refrain from lying (speaking truth always)
5 - To refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness (specifically, drugs and alcohol)
6 - To refrain from taking food at an unseasonable time, that is after the mid-day meal
7 - To refrain from dancing, music, singing and unseemly shows
8 - To refrain from the use of garlands, perfumes, ointments, and from things that tend to beautify and adorn (the person)
9 - To refrain from (using) high and luxurious seats (and beds)
10 - To refrain from accepting gold and silver

logically, abiding these precepts are the "rights" and disobeying these are the "wrongs"…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why? That would be like me saying that you are blind and stubborn if you don't accept that Catholics are Christian. That would be a very stupid thing for me to say.

* nope… you're blind and stubborn if you don't accept that disobeying the very doctrine of your religion is a wrong thing…

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. Sarcasm is my style.

* so I've seen… but it's more of a mockery to me…

Originally posted by peejayd
* yes, because the word "catholic" is not even found in the Bible… Christians are disciples/followers of the teachings of Christ… and what did Jesus said who really are His disciples?

That was sarcaum. Remember I told you I am very sarcastic.

Originally posted by peejayd
* idolatry is prohibited in the teachings of Christ… 'nuff said…

That’s fine, and I agree. Idolatry is prohibited in the Christian religion. It is also prohibited in the Catholic religion as far as I know. Have you ever asked a Catholic for yourself?

Originally posted by peejayd
* the very foundation of a religion -> its doctrines…

I was asking for the deeper meaning, like the will of god, or something.

Originally posted by peejayd
* having a fellow Buddhist continue to worship Buddha - with you knowing that Buddha himself rejects worship - is not winning… you're permitting a fellow Buddhist to continue doing something you know is not right… it's not winning in any way…

Worshipping a god is not important; and that is winning. :-P

Originally posted by peejayd
* an obvious copout… many people was being deceived… these are some of Catholic doctrines:[/i]

I still think it is all in your head.

Originally posted by peejayd
* there are "rights" and "wrongs" in Christianity… there are "do's" and don'ts" in Christianity… why would Buddhism be treated differently… you're biased, you're impartial, and you're not telling the truth… there are also "rights" and "wrongs" in Buddhism… don't be a hypocrite…

I was asking you for some examples of Buddhist “Rights” and “Wrongs”. So, give me a couple of “Rights” and “Wrongs” in Buddhism.

Originally posted by peejayd
* I'm not taking it personally… but I take religion seriously… committing in a religion is not a joke… for a Buddhist like you, you should know better…

There is a difference between joking around and having a since of humor.

If someone makes fun of your religion, do you consider that to be a joke about your commitment?

Originally posted by peejayd
* you say when you were a "christian", you were taught that catholics were the church of satan… if so, how come you always claim that catholics [b]are christians? when you were a christian, you were obviously not a catholic… those two are different…[/B]

That was a long time ago. I have friends who are Catholic, and I wouldn’t say that what they do is idolatry. Its all just superstition.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was asking you for some examples of Buddhist “Rights” and “Wrongs”. So, give me a couple of “Rights” and “Wrongs” in Buddhism.

What's the Buddhist view on torturing a ten year old to death?

right and wrongs are labels the goal of various sects of Buddhism is to transcend such views...

some are taught to walk the swords edge neither good or bad to find a balance..

to do things without animosity, take no pleasure in suffering of others but realize that life is suffering to not over indulge in what may bring you pleasure whether its food, join etc etc... Nirvana is the goal for many Buddhist and finding peace.

your attempt to equate your concept of right and wrong kinda fails when it comes to Buddhism..

its like the common person who beliefs Karma is a good or bad allegory.... it is not, it is simply is a purpose of what is all things effecting another, action and reaction with labels of right and wrong not applying.

can you tell a sun what it does is right or wrong?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What's the Buddhist view on torturing a ten year old to death?

That is a good question. I do not know the Buddhist answer, but I will give you mine.

Suffering is wrong. Torturing causes two people to suffer. Death causes suffering, and remember, suffering is wrong. Ha ha

If I were to die saving a child, I would consider that to be a good death. So the thought of someone torturing a ten year old to death, causes me to suffer. It seems to always goes back to suffering.

Of course, we all know how to get rid of suffering? …let go of attachments. However, if we choose to let go of all attachments, we gain an attachment. That is, we focus on getting rid of attachments instead of living our lives, and realizing we are human. Attachments give meaning to life. To loose attachments is to loose your humanity. So, I am picky on what attachments I let loose.

Now I am curious; why the strange question? Do you have a ten year old tied up in your closet? 😂

Originally posted by King Castle
right and wrongs are labels the goal of various sects of Buddhism is to transcend such views...

some are taught to walk the swords edge neither good or bad to find a balance..

to do things without animosity, take no pleasure in suffering of others but realize that life is suffering to not over indulge in what may bring you pleasure whether its food, join etc etc... Nirvana is the goal for many Buddhist and finding peace.

your attempt to equate your concept of right and wrong kinda fails when it comes to Buddhism..

its like the common person who beliefs Karma is a good or bad allegory.... it is not, it is simply is a purpose of what is all things effecting another, action and reaction with labels of right and wrong not applying.

can you tell a sun what it does is right or wrong?

Aman! 😄