Hit Girl (kick ass) vs. John Preston (Equilibrium)

Started by Robtard14 pages
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

How many times must I ask to be shown Preston using Gun Kata and winning against someone like HG, with her speed and agility? A bullet dodger? There is none.

Ah, I love when you do this 'RJ's last-ditch' argument.

Counter: How many times must I ask to be shown Hit-Girl using her skills and winning against someone like Preston, with his Gunkata, speed and agility? A multi-bullet avoider? There is none.

Your ball, son.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, I love when you do this 'RJ's last-ditch' argument.

Counter: How many times must I ask to be shown Hit-Gril using her skills and winning against someone like Preston, with his Gunkata, speed and agility? A multi-bullet avoider? There is none.

Your ball, son.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, I love when you do this 'last-ditch' argument.

Counter: How many times must I ask to be shown Hit-Gril using her skills and winning against someone like Preston, with his Gunkata, speed and agility? There is none.

Your ball, son.

Aaaaaaahahahahaha this is where you fail. Prestons greatest weapon is his Gun Kata. Without it, hes just a guy with a gun, like a Jedi without the force.

HG's speed and agility nullify his Gun Kata, or at the very least greatly hamper it.

HG dodges bullets. She sees them coming after they are fired and moves out of the way. Preston uses Gun Kata to move out of the line of fire before a gun is fired, but Gun Kata relies for the most part on the shooter firing from the location Preston knows them to be in, and onscreen these shooters are, for the most part, stationary.

If HG can dodge bullets from multiple shooters, she'll dodge Prestons bullets in her sleep.

Originally posted by Impediment
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Aaaahahahahaa NOW who's trolling? 🙂

If HG see's bullets coming and can dodge them why didn't she dodge RM's bullets? And don't gimme that 'She wasn't ready for it' bullshit because you just stated she see's bullets coming...if she can do that she woulda seen the bullets coming once RM fired them...what if he had shot her in the face? Didn't see her dodging bullets there...saw her being shot by a kid who had never fired a gun though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Aaaaaaahahahahaha this is where you fail. Prestons greatest weapon is his Gun Kata. Without it, hes just a guy with a gun, like a Jedi without the force.

HG's speed and agility nullify his Gun Kata, or at the very least greatly hamper it.

HG dodges bullets. She sees them coming after they are fired and moves out of the way. Preston uses Gun Kata to move out of the line of fire before a gun is fired, but Gun Kata relies for the most part on the shooter firing from the location Preston knows them to be in, and onscreen these shooters are, for the most part, stationary.

If HG can dodge bullets from multiple shooters, she'll dodge Prestons bullets in her sleep.

Again, wrong. He also has speed and great agility. He's a physically superior human and then comes the Gunkata.

Again, this is shit pulled from your ass. He can avoid being hit from 20 plus machine-guns; while returning fire, but Hit-Girl is going to hit him first? No.

Bullets fired from goons who where about to shit themselves. Preston's a Cleric with twin automatics. The very fact that there's several instances that she had to duck and take cover is proof she's not dodging twin automatics.

I do love how you're trying to now imply that Preston is not better than the goons she fought. But it's another failed attempt; the movies show this.

Feat for feat, Preston trumps.

-Fighting in the darkness. Preston.

-Fighting more opponents. Preston.

-Dodging/Avoiding gun-fire. Preston.

-Fighting better trained opponents. Preston.

-Agility. Preston. That back -lip while shooting both guns and then spining-roll to fire again trumps her little gimmicks.

-Speed. Probably close, I'd need to see Equillibrium all the way through again. Vaguely recall a scene.

Originally posted by steverules_2
If HG see's bullets coming and can dodge them why didn't she dodge RM's bullets? And don't gimme that 'She wasn't ready for it' bullshit because you just stated she see's bullets coming...if she can do that she woulda seen the bullets coming once RM fired them...what if he had shot her in the face? Didn't see her dodging bullets there...saw her being shot by a kid who had never fired a gun though.
Because she wasn't fighting. facepalm She was sitting there relaxed.

Here, she is in fighting mode.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because she wasn't fighting. facepalm She was sitting there relaxed.

Here, she is in fighting mode.

And that stops her ability of seeing bullets and dodging them? Hmm, well she was sitting there...when RM pulled out the gun and fired...she would have seen the bullets and moved, but hence she did not do that. NOW, preston...was not in 'fighting mode' when the police came along...they caught him totally off guard...did they manage to shoot him? No, they did not.

Originally posted by steverules_2
And that stops her ability of seeing bullets and dodging them? Hmm, well she was sitting there...when RM pulled out the gun and fired...she would have seen the bullets and moved, but hence she did not do that. NOW, preston...was not in 'fighting mode' when the police came along...they caught him totally off guard...did they manage to shoot him? No, they did not.

Dude, she was caught off guard. She trusted Kick Ass, she was walking towards Red Mist with her hand extended.

If she knew he had a gun and was gonna use it, he would never have gotten a shot off.

It's like me saying "Hey, what if Preston was taking a crap and gunmen bursted in firing as they went?

Alsp, Preston had a minute or two to realize the danger, he had plenty of time to prepare. HG? She was like "Hi I'm Hit Girl OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Aaaahahahahaa NOW who's trolling? 🙂

You actually have the gall to accuse me of trolling, RJ, when you have posted dozens upon dozens of YouTube vids of laughing hyenas, crying baby cartoons, and other inane similarities?

Grow up, won'cha?

2 minutes? The cop said fire and it didn't take the dude 2 minutes to say fire, Preston wasn't exactly ready for them to suddenly take aim at him and shoot, he managed to act quickly enough before they shot at him. HG was not so fortunate, she got shot.

What about when Frank had the gun pointed at her head? I didn't see her ready to dodge the bullet there, just crying and bleeding. Preston had two guns pointed at his head. There's a difference between those two situations though, Preston...managed to save himself....HG was saved by kick ass armed with a Rocket launcher.

Originally posted by Impediment
You actually have the gall to accuse me of trolling, RJ, when you have posted dozens upon dozens of YouTube vids of laughing hyenas, crying baby cartoons, and other inane similarities?

Grow up, won'cha?

Mattie, I posted a smily. I was ****ing with you. Geez.

Originally posted by steverules_2
2 minutes? The cop said fire and it didn't take the dude 2 minutes to say fire, Preston wasn't exactly ready for them to suddenly take aim at him and shoot, he managed to act quickly enough before they shot at him. HG was not so fortunate, she got shot.

What about when Frank had the gun pointed at her head? I didn't see her ready to dodge the bullet there, just crying and bleeding. Preston had two guns pointed at his head. There's a difference between those two situations though, Preston...managed to save himself....HG was saved by kick ass armed with a Rocket launcher.

Preston had at least a minute or so to prepare. The cops stopped asked for his ID, got his keys, searched the car, the dog barked, there was plenty of time.

My dear sweet Jesus. HG was already beaten when Frank had the gun on her. He beat her h2h, which has no bearing in this fight.

They were about to leave...then the dog barked...Preston stated it wasn't him...then they pointed their guns at him and the cop was like shoot him. They were unable to do any such thing because he moved so fast. If she was so fast and agile like you mentioned then frank wouldn't have been able to beat her so and then shoot her, she was beaten...she was dead. Preston was neither such thing in the movie, and why? Because he was that damn good.

Originally posted by steverules_2
They were about to leave...then the dog barked...Preston stated it wasn't him...then they pointed their guns at him and the cop was like shoot him. They were unable to do any such thing because he moved so fast. If she was so fast and agile like you mentioned then frank wouldn't have been able to beat her so and then shoot her, she was beaten...she was dead. Preston was neither such thing in the movie, and why? Because he was that damn good.

Yeah, and Preston had a full 10-15 seconds before the cops opened the trunk and drew down on him. HG had no warning of what was to come.

HG dodges bullets, for the umpteenth time, that surpasses any Preston feat by miles.

Steve, listen to me closely.....HG loses to Preston h2h. Got it?

Alright, I see where this is going, RJ will simply insist that things happened differently and conveniently to his needs, despite video showing otherwise.

That and the constant downplaying of Preston. 'Gunkata can't handle moving opponents.' 'HG will dodge all shots Preston fires at her, easy.' Ad Nauseum.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, and Preston had a full 10-15 seconds before the cops opened the trunk and drew down on him. HG had no warning of what was to come.

HG dodges bullets, for the umpteenth time, that surpasses any Preston feat by miles.

Steve, listen to me closely.....HG loses to Preston h2h. Got it?

I know you've stated that many times....but I've also stated many times that preston is very quick with a gun, even quicker than those thugs that HG took on. He has an automatic firing weapon and she wasn't dodging any thing like that which would make a difference. He managed to kill those cops before they fired. He managed to kill all those guards and reload...before they fired. Her dodging two bullets isn't that impressive, it's impressive yes...but not as impressive as you make it out to be.

And yes I know she loses in H2H to Preston...I haven't stated that for a while now...

Originally posted by Robtard
Alright, I see where this is going, RJ will simply insist that things happened differently and conveniently to his needs, despite video showing otherwise.

That and the constant downplaying of Preston. 'Gunkata can't handle moving opponents.' 'HG will dodge all shots Preston fires at her, easy.' Ad Nauseum.

haermm The vids are all in HG's favor haermm Try again, Rob, try harder.

Rob, all of Prestons opponents, were they stationary, or pretty much standing in the same general area when firing on him? Yes.

Rob, the one guy who decided to run and shoot at the same time, did that make Preston miss? Yes.

Rob, did any of Prestons opponents move like HG did? Dodge bullets like HG did? No.

Bullet dodging, dude, bullet dodging.

But hey, continue ignoring

Did any of HG's opponents even move?

Originally posted by steverules_2
Did any of HG's opponents even move?
See? You just do NOT get it.....

It's not important whether or not her opponents moved. He fighting style does not rely on the same things that Gun Kata does. In the movie Equilibrium, every opponent who Preston was shown using Gun Kata effectively on, was either standing still or in the same general spot. AND they were all slow as shit.

Hit Girl is fast as hell and will be all over the place.

What is being done here is that the Preston crowd is taking his feats/abilities and blowing them way out of proportion, saying he can do things he is never shown doing.

See how that works?