^ Herald-level =/= High Herald.
Originally posted by h1a8Hulk and Thor are Herald-level characters.
Why speak of heralds only? Why not speak of Hulk and Thor. The question is that older feats are far crazier.This is moot. The fact still remains that many Marvel character's BEST feats are found in older comics. Heralds for the most part are exempt from this though. That is why you only mention them I see.
I just showed you that isn't true. Of course, your point that 1990 isn't actually considered the 1990s was a compelling argument... still trying to figure out that winner.
Originally posted by h1a8Kal-L's history is still canon to him. He isn't sneezing galaxies away. Way to miss the point. And Hal Jordan's original history has not been zealously reinforced. At all. You'd know this if you read Green Lantern comics.
The GL are still canon too. Same thing.Who cares about D.C. as a whole. We are only concerned with the GL. Manipulating time is not a crazy ++++ feat. Stop with the con games now. Hell many were just arguing with me that Silver Surfer beats Dr. Manhattan by BFR him to the stone age or far future.
DC as whole made a wholesale change in how they portrayed their characters post-Crisis. That included the GLs. Gallivanting around time like it was as easy as opening a door is a crazy+++ feat for GLs. Because they can't do that anymore. Specifically because of the Crisis. Read Green Lantern comics.
Originally posted by h1a8... your analogy would make sense if I tried to say November of 1989 is technically the 1990s. The year 1990 is part of the 1990's. That is not misleading and this isn't meant to be hard.
You just mad cause I caught you trying to con readers here. You purposely chose to use the misleading "happened in the 90s" rather than "happened in 1990" or not mention it all since anything borderline can be ruled an exception. This is like merchants pricing their items $14.95 to make it seem as if a customer is playing $14 instead of $15.
Originally posted by h1a8You use current characters. You don't use current characters and pretend you can cut/paste old, retconned/retrofitted feats that have utterly no significance anymore.
Where is the hypocrisy? Use current feats or use old ones. I'm fine with either. But don't use old canon feats on me and say I can't do the same.I don't even think you know what the definition of a hypocrite is. Nothing I said is even remotely hypocritical. I'm arguing fairness, nothing more. What is hypocritical about that?
Kal-L, the Superman of Earth-2. All his history is canon. He was never "affected" by the Crisis. Can he accidentally sneeze galaxies away? No. We saw him in Infinite Crisis. He matched Kal-El when he went insane with grief. You don't use meaningless old feats when the entire DC Comics line has moved on from all that bs.
This is a reality check. Your interpretation of the character goes directly against how the character is portrayed. On-panel comics >>> your wet-dream fantasy. On-panel comics >>> your logic that 1990 isn't the 1990s.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You can feel free totry andpoint out the inaccuracies. Read the Green Lantern comics that immediately follow the Crisis for your answer on time-travel.Purple prose =/= on-panel feats.
yes, because getting snarky is going to encourage me to reply.
feel free to continue the argument, but keep the bashing out of it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Snarkiness =/= bashing in my opinion.My incredulity with your insinuation that I was inaccurate is just that. Incredulity. I invite you to point out the inconsistency nonetheless. Without snark.
i wasn't saying you were bashing me, just to clarify.
i just honestly don't see a reason to. i don't believe that all dc heralds are automatically less powerful post crisis than they were before it. That and the diminished power thing i disagree with, but even if i bring out what i think is right, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Oh. Then I shall consider this as a ratification for me to continue my snarking away. uhuhI won't play the guessing game. But as it stands, I imagine those nitpicks wouldn't be relevant to the characters we're mainly talking about in any case.
for the most part, no, but you did make some pretty broad-ranged comments.
Originally posted by psycho gundamOh, the irony. 😂
lol, "which crisis?"oh dc
Originally posted by JuntaiThe original one. I don't know the issue # off the top of my head. It's when Hal and Arisia and Salaak go to the future. Hal says something like if he hadn't been to that exact time period before the Crisis, he couldn't have been able to time travel to the future specifically because the Crisis made it impossibly harder due to screwing the timestream or something.
Which Crisis?
I have most GL issues printed.
Issue number?
Originally posted by BadabingWhat I do in my spare time, is MY business. uhuh
Why is ODG getting all lady like again? durette
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Hulk is not busting asteroid anymore either. See its the same point.
^ Herald-level =/= High Herald. Hulk and Thor are Herald-level characters.I just showed you that isn't true. Of course, your point that 1990 isn't actually considered the 1990s was a compelling argument... still trying to figure out that winner. Kal-L's history is still canon to him. He isn't sneezing galaxies away. Way to miss the point. And Hal Jordan's original history has not been zealously reinforced. At all. You'd know this if you read Green Lantern comics.
The fact that you chose the words 90s proves you are trying to sell us some crap. If you are right then speak in a way where it is more clear. 90s doesn't tell us if it is 99 or 90 and those two years are like night and day. It is moot whether D.C. wanted to weaken their characters. The point is people use feats from that past that dwarfs current feats. The character being weaker back then even proves my point more greatly. That means the character shouldn't be doing stuff that current characters can't do.
DC as whole made a wholesale change in how they portrayed their characters post-Crisis. That included the GLs. Gallivanting around time like it was as easy as opening a door is a crazy+++ feat for GLs. Because they can't do that anymore. Specifically because of the Crisis. Read Green Lantern comics. ... your analogy would make sense if I tried to say November of 1989 is technically the 1990s. The year 1990 is part of the 1990's. That is not misleading and this isn't meant to be hard. You use current characters. You don't use current characters and pretend you can cut/paste old, retconned/retrofitted feats that have utterly no significance anymore.
Moot! The point is there are crazy feats by Marvel characters back in the day too (not as crazy though) yet people have used them.
Kal-L, the Superman of Earth-2. All his history is canon. He was never "affected" by the Crisis. Can he accidentally sneeze galaxies away? No. We saw him in Infinite Crisis. He matched Kal-El when he went insane with grief. You don't use meaningless old feats when the entire DC Comics line has moved on from all that bs.
Nope. How characters are portrayed is in their feats.
This is a reality check. Your interpretation of the character goes directly against how the character is portrayed. On-panel comics >>> your wet-dream fantasy. On-panel comics >>> your logic that 1990 isn't the 1990s.
Originally posted by h1a8You just said current feats count. And that current feats includes the 90s. Hulk busted an asteroid twice the size of the Earth in 1990. It's not my fault that you set up an arbitrary rule that backfired in your face.
Hulk is not busting asteroid anymore either. See its the same point.
Time travel is not even that crazy, its normal. Sneezing galaxies and busting asteroids are the crazy ones.
Originally posted by h1a8... are you drunk? I didn't choose the 90s, YOU and your cohorts did. I have no idea why 1990 became the magical year in Marvel comics for you all. Stop flinging stupid at me in the hopes that it will stick. And how does a character being weaker in the past... undermine people using older feats when the character is currently more powerful than they were? What the hucking fell?
The fact that you chose the words 90s proves you are trying to sell us some crap. If you are right then speak in a way where it is more clear. 90s doesn't tell us if it is 99 or 90 and those two years are like night and day. It is moot whether D.C. wanted to weaken their characters. The point is people use feats from that past that dwarfs current feats. The character being weaker back then even proves my point more greatly. That means the character shouldn't be doing stuff that current characters can't do.
Originally posted by h1a8They use crazy feats because it's consistent with the character in that most characters you're thinking of are actually more overall powerful than they were in the past.
Moot! The point is there are crazy feats by Marvel characters back in the day too (not as crazy though) yet people have used them.Nope. How characters are portrayed is in their feats.
No sh1t. That's the point. And feats tell you that GLs are nowhere near as powerful as they used to be same way feats tell you that Kal-L was nowhere near as powerful as he used to be.