Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? SS physically dragged him faster and faster until they went into the future. I'm not blind am I? It took awhile for Surfer to do it too. No way Dr. M sits there and lets that happen.
Can he do that to Thanos? What about Thor? Why not? Hmmm. Also you are not understanding my point. I said there would be many Dr. M in the beginning of battle. I also said Dr. M can teleport and phase. So he can't be sucked in (he would phase or teleport while he is being sucked). Second, I don't believe the board can suck (as in vacuum) beings in. Lastly, just because someone didn't try something in a comic doesn't mean they couldn't do it. That is why we have low showings and bad writing. For example, Gladiator could just thrown Hulk into space or uppercut him there. But bad writing had him try to carry him to space at speeds far under light speed.
You have to prove DM's mind would be part of the astral plane. You must also prove that SS can enter the astral plane and assault DM's mind well before DM can destroy SS's body. Leaving the battlefield is also against the rules.
I know he did, that's what I alluded to. Being able to shrink doesn't necessarily give one the ability to grow beyond normal levels, otherwise you would have SS doing in comics at least several times.DM is a matter manipulator and energy absorber. His larger self has more energy and is more powerful because this is how the writer's are portraying him to be when he grows.
The point is SS doesnt have to grab and hold on to DM to drag him through time. He can encase him in a forcefield to do it, along with a portion of the battlefield. You could claim DM can teleport out of it if he realizes what is happening, but SS can conceivebly make the field TP proof.
The board can indeed suck creatures in. Thanos imperative 4 shows it.
I don't have to prove DM's mind would be accessible through the astral plane as it is obvious enough, because the rules state they fight in a neutral universe and so there would be an astral plane through which one could reach his mind. Onus of evidence to show he is inaccessible or impervious to TP or astral form attacks is on you. As for how long it would take for the SS to conclude the astral attack while leaving his body abandoned, the speed of thought and travel in astral form is said to be incalculable, xavier reached across a galaxy in astral form almost instantly. With his mind under attack DM would have difficulty managing a physical attack on the SS.
He amps when he grows? Evidence?
I'll say it again you can't prove anything the surfer would do to him would actually accomplish anything... No super power being has ever assaulted or done anything to Manhattan. The nuke limitation was based on a lie Ozzy used to create his utopia. There is no measure to how he would respond either positively or negatively to the attacks of the surfer. Stop surfer wanking.
Originally posted by 753
The point is SS doesnt have to grab and hold on to DM to drag him through time. He can encase him in a forcefield to do it, along with a portion of the battlefield. You could claim DM can teleport out of it if he realizes what is happening, but SS can conceivebly make the field TP proof.The board can indeed suck creatures in. Thanos imperative 4 shows it.
I don't have to prove DM's mind would be accessible through the astral plane as it is obvious enough, because the rules state they fight in a neutral universe and so there would be an astral plane through which one could reach his mind. Onus of evidence to show he is inaccessible or impervious to TP or astral form attacks is on you. As for how long it would take for the SS to conclude the astral attack while leaving his body abandoned, the speed of thought and travel in astral form is said to be incalculable, xavier reached across a galaxy in astral form almost instantly. With his mind under attack DM would have difficulty managing a physical attack on the SS.
He amps when he grows? Evidence?
In addition SS doesnt even need to drag manhattan in order to temporally BFR him, he could use a chronal energy wave and that would be that.
Originally posted by h1a8
What parts are candidates of trolling? Quote each statement that is and explain why it is a candidate. If I'm looking like a fool then please do correct me.P.S. I'm sincere here and really would like to be brought into the light if I'm way off here. This post is no way meant to be sarcastic but a sincere request for knowledge.
Your post wasn't a "sincere request for knowledge" more like an inept attempt at stating conjecture as fact.
Sigh. Are you getting lazy? There used to be a time when your posts made an ATTEMPT at making a point. Now it's just plain downright ignorant. Very disappointing, really.
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Originally posted by h1a8
I haven't ignore them. SS simply can't do such things to beings in a fight. If I'm wrong them prove me wrong.
Originally posted by h1a8
I define 'fight' as one on one ready set fight. Actually I knew SS has done some of the things. That is why I was slick and said "...in a fight."SS can't do the astral plane thing in a fight due to him leaving his body exposed or him leaving the battlefield rule. From that scan that wasn't what I define to be a fight (as in one on one ready set fight).
Very disappointing, h1. Very.