Originally posted by The ScenarioLink won't ge close to her.
You weaken her by stabbing her. This is not hard to understand.If you could quote me on that it's be great, because I rcall saying it didn't damage him at all. I said nothing about blood.
What are you talking about, though? There's no one running the cannon that goes to the city in the sky, and it was designed to launch birds, who would be able to slow themselves. There's second cannon in the city in the sky that fires downward, and no one runs that, either. Link is the only non-Ooccoo to use the thing.
Yeah, you're talking about the clown guy, whereas I'm talking about the completely different cannon that had to be rebuilt and was designed to fire tiny birds instead of humans. So, yeah, Link is the only human to use it, and he survives fine on both trips. Meaning his durability is through the roof and the Mother can't hurt him.
He's stronger than they are and weilds a sword that would cut through the Mother and her tentacles like paper. He'll kill her easily.
No, he can't stop him without the boots. Once stopped, he doesn't need any extra weight and can go ahead and lift and throw Dangoro.
Well, yes, since that's how evidence works. I posted a feat of Link's and a feat of the thing hitting him. You didn't post any feats of the Mother, so she currently hasn't displayed the strength necessary to hurt Link at all. Therefore, she can't until you post a strength feat.
Link has resistance to such effects in the form of the Master Sword and Triforce of Courage. And what is the name of this ability? The Dragon Age wiki doesn't mention it.
It did damage him but he recovered.
So it's killed no one nor has it even been portrayed in the game to be even close to attempting a fatal fall yet you proudly proclaim this as some sort of Link feat. This is just ridiculous.
When was it stated in the game humans will be killed by his trup to the city in the sky ?
Link isn't stronger than any of them save maybe just a mage. That's it. He hasn't proven himself to beat anyone in zelda due to overwhelming strength.
So what the only way Link can stop someone who outweighs him by a fair margin with with the boots but he's immobile so your point is ?
Mother isn't in videos where she is just killing people we go by her abilities and what not. You seem to think gameplay abilities mean nothing which is incorrect Link will never ever even get close to her.
You have to play the game. Can't remember off hand what it's called.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Link won't ge close to her.
The guy with the knife did. All Link needs to do is slice apart her tentacles and the grubs and then she can't do squat to him.
It did damage him but he recovered.
Prove it did damage. A normal human wouldn't be okay after that attack. And if you think he recovered from that, he'll certainly recover from the Mother's tentacles if they even mage to hit him.
So it's killed no one nor has it even been portrayed in the game to be even close to attempting a fatal fall yet you proudly proclaim this as some sort of Link feat. This is just ridiculous.
Link gets lauched out of a sky cannon at a lake, and you think this is non-lethal. That's hilarious. The fall alone would kill any human, let alone the fact there's a cannon launching him faster.
When was it stated in the game humans will be killed by his trup to the city in the sky ?
Physics states this rather hard. Where is it stated that swords can hurt things? Same thing. Just look:
YouTube video
4:40. Link enters the cannon and is fired downward. He hits Lake Hylia and somehow manages to not be pasted. You think anyone could survive this?
Link isn't stronger than any of them save maybe just a mage. That's it. He hasn't proven himself to beat anyone in zelda due to overwhelming strength.
Link beat Dangoro due to overwhelming strength. Since he could lift Dangoro, he is much stronger than the featless Grey Wardens. Unless, of course, you can post a strength feat that puts the Grey Wardens above Link, he is hundreds of times stronger than they are.
So what the only way Link can stop someone who outweighs him by a fair margin with with the boots but he's immobile so your point is ?
He doesn't need to wear the boots to put his massive strength behind a sword swing.
Mother isn't in videos where she is just killing people we go by her abilities and what not. You seem to think gameplay abilities mean nothing which is incorrect Link will never ever even get close to her.
Magic Armor. Mortal Draw. Mother dies in one hit and still can't hurt Link.
You have to play the game. Can't remember off hand what it's called.
Don't really care. Link is protected anyway.
Originally posted by BloodRainNo proof she weighs 300 tons but nice try with the imaginary numbers. You really are out there. Link to stop anything which weighs more than himself needs the boots for this but if he equips them he lacks any kind of mobility and will be torn apart.
Wow that's dense. Boots ≠ Arms but nice try. If you played the game of looked a little deeper you'd know all this by now. And Link knocking around a [b]300 ton ice mass with a ball and chain says otherwise to him having no strength.Speculation through maths [credible people here] is taken as better proof then someone's word based off nothing. Its how it works when comparing things.
Can weild it with enough strength to knock that 3 story iceberg back at speeds. Y'know what, just for you Im gonna dig up a strength feat just for you with as little math as possible:
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http://www.legendarystrength.com/feats-of-strength/chain-breaking/#
What this tells us is that a strong person can beak a #12 chain with small trouble and can break a #10 chain with difficulty, in his words 4x harder for 2 grades. That link also says that breaking a #6 chain is a superhuman feat. That would mean a #6 would be over 8x harder then a #10.Now;
YouTube video
Knowing that Dorf is like 10ft tall. Those chains that held him would be #4 which he broke with less effort then that chap breaking a #12 in another vid. That comes with the conclusion that Dorf is 20x stronger then a fairly strong person...Oh yeah the point of this is.. ''Never once have I seen his strength decide the outcome of any fight it's always due to his skill and artifacts''
YouTube video 50 seconds in.
Link is just above Dorfs strength. Seeing as how the Dragon Age people at best with no feats would be in the 'athlete' class, Link trumps them by far. There, a feat with no calcs and by only comparing.TP Dorf doesnt have the memories of WW Dorf as they are diffent entities. But TP Dorf does have the memories of OoT as that was him in the timeline. http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Split_Timeline_Theory Look at that, or just glance at the picture and you'll get it. [/B]
Breaking the chains is nice and all but he is powered up by the triforce which seems to empower him temporarily so unless his hand is lighting up he isn't normally this strong.
This isn't canon either and it's a gameplay mechanic nor is dorf actively or passively using the triforce to increase his power.
I appreciate the effort but it's a bit misguided. Link isn't portrayed as strong either and dorf only is superhumanly strong when using the triforce of power.
Link doesn't even close the gap and she does too much damage to him to even close the gap to make this an actual fight.
I must admit that I, too, am curious as to how the 300 ton figure for Blizzeta came about. BloodRain, can you post the math or whatever process you used to determine it? If true, TP Link just went up yet another strenngth category.
And Quanchi, if picking up and throwing Dangoro doesn't portray Link as strong, what will? Oh, and before I forget, the Triforce of Power is passive, meaning Ganondorf is always that strong.
Originally posted by The ScenarioYes, he did so after weakening her. You are leaving out the entire battle which took place prior too.
The guy with the knife did. All Link needs to do is slice apart her tentacles and the grubs and then she can't do squat to him.Prove it did damage. A normal human wouldn't be okay after that attack. And if you think he recovered from that, he'll certainly recover from the Mother's tentacles if they even mage to hit him.
Link gets lauched out of a sky cannon at a lake, and you think this is non-lethal. That's hilarious. The fall alone would kill any human, let alone the fact there's a cannon launching him faster.
Physics states this rather hard. Where is it stated that swords can hurt things? Same thing. Just look:
YouTube video
4:40. Link enters the cannon and is fired downward. He hits Lake Hylia and somehow manages to not be pasted. You think anyone could survive this?Link beat Dangoro due to overwhelming strength. Since he could lift Dangoro, he is much stronger than the featless Grey Wardens. Unless, of course, you can post a strength feat that puts the Grey Wardens above Link, he is hundreds of times stronger than they are.
He doesn't need to wear the boots to put his massive strength behind a sword swing.
Magic Armor. Mortal Draw. Mother dies in one hit and still can't hurt Link.
Don't really care. Link is protected anyway.
A videogame character who is a hero can sustain this type of attack and ward off the damage and recover to make a fight of it. Don't be so dramatic.
Too many tentacles to overcome. They also do far more damage than this guy's blunt force trauma and are more numerous all attacking him at once.
This is zelda and like usual you want to attack normal physics to some of the crazier and nonsensical things in the game. This wasn't designed in the game to be fatal to anyone nor was it even described as anything close to being. Nice try but you failed.
Link beat him due to his gear and tactics he didn't beat him due to overwhelming strength. I mean stop it already with this nonsense like he's stronger than dangoro it's utterly ridiculous.
Saying he's a hundred times strong when the guy can barely wield a ball and chain and the fact he needs gear to even stop anyone who weighs more than him is flat out wrong. Link isn't stronger than anyone in his own game nor does he show it in tp.
Nor do any massive swings do any damage to a worthy opponent who can block all his strikes.
He needs skill to beat them the game makes it clear multiple times hence the skills.
He can't mortal draw her he gets beaten before he even gets close to her.
No, he isn't. Link hasn't shown any protection from anything in dragon age nor did you play the game which shows how biased you are as you claim he's protected when YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED
THE GAME NOR DO YOU HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ANYTHING COMBAT WISE IN THE GAME.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he did so after weakening her. You are leaving out the entire battle which took place prior too.
No, I in fact told you that Link would kill her after he destroys all her tentacles and grubs and pulls a mortal Draw on her face.
A videogame character who is a hero can sustain this type of attack and ward off the damage and recover to make a fight of it. Don't be so dramatic.
Then you admit Link can survive the Mother's attacks, ward off her damage, and recover enough to kill her. That wasn't so hard, I think.
Too many tentacles to overcome. They also do far more damage than this guy's blunt force trauma and are more numerous all attacking him at once.
Too many? I watched two different walkthroughs and the Mother's tentacles total at about 4. That's enough to be destroyed by one spin attack, let alone the Great Spin. Also, how about you prove that the tentacles are stronger than King Bulblin? They have no strength feats and King Bulblin deals some hefty damage. Oh, and Magic Armor. Mother still can't hurt him.
This is zelda and like usual you want to attack normal physics to some of the crazier and nonsensical things in the game. This wasn't designed in the game to be fatal to anyone nor was it even described as anything close to being. Nice try but you failed.
I'm not attacking normal physics. In fact, you are the one claiming that a terminal velocity fall can't hurt anyone, which goes against all of physics. Link was unharmed by a cannon that fired him several thousand feet into a lake and was not harmed. The Mother can't compete with that.
Link beat him due to his gear and tactics he didn't beat him due to overwhelming strength. I mean stop it already with this nonsense like he's stronger than dangoro it's utterly ridiculous.
I never said Link was stronger than Dangoro. All I said is that Link is strong enough to throw Dangoro. He defeated Dangoro by picking him up and throwing him. That one feat of strength puts Link above anyone in Dragon Age in regards to strength.
Saying he's a hundred times strong when the guy can barely wield a ball and chain and the fact he needs gear to even stop anyone who weighs more than him is flat out wrong. Link isn't stronger than anyone in his own game nor does he show it in tp.
He shows it when he picks up Dangoro and beats Ganondorf in a sword lock. He also shows it when he wields the Ball and Chain easier than the boss. He shows it when he throws the Ball and Chsin and throws Blizzeta against a wall. If you can't see any of that, you are blind. Now instead of just saying Link is weak and being proven wrong, how about you show me that Dragon Age characters are strong?
Nor do any massive swings do any damage to a worthy opponent who can block all his strikes.
You have yet to prove the Mother is a worthy opponent. In fact, you have yet to prove anything at all. If you cannot provide proof for anything you say, you are just wasting everyone's time.
He needs skill to beat them the game makes it clear multiple times hence the skills.
Yes, we already know Link is skilled. This does not make Link any weaker.
He can't mortal draw her he gets beaten before he even gets close to her.
How does he get beaten when the Magic Armor prevents the Mother from hurting him at all? The only thing Link needs to do is run up and Mortal Draw the Mother while the Magic Armor blocks all her attacks.
No, he isn't. Link hasn't shown any protection from anything in dragon age nor did you play the game which shows how biased you are as you claim he's protected when YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED
THE GAME NOR DO YOU HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ANYTHING COMBAT WISE IN THE GAME.
Do you think I am incapable of doing research? I have watched enough gameplay videos to know how Dragon Age works, and I know that Link has resistance to mental powers like what you said the Mother had BUT FAILED TO PROVE IN ANY WAY.
Originally posted by The ScenarioHe can't he is busy slashing wildy as the tentacles attack him. With the mortal draw he dies as well if he gets hit. LOL.
No, I in fact told you that Link would kill her after he destroys all her tentacles and grubs and pulls a mortal Draw on her face.Then you admit Link can survive the Mother's attacks, ward off her damage, and recover enough to kill her. That wasn't so hard, I think.
Too many? I watched two different walkthroughs and the Mother's tentacles total at about 4. That's enough to be destroyed by one spin attack, let alone the Great Spin. Also, how about you prove that the tentacles are stronger than King Bulblin? They have no strength feats and King Bulblin deals some hefty damage. Oh, and Magic Armor. Mother still can't hurt him.
I'm not attacking normal physics. In fact, you are the one claiming that a terminal velocity fall can't hurt anyone, which goes against all of physics. Link was unharmed by a cannon that fired him several thousand feet into a lake and was not harmed. The Mother can't compete with that.
I never said Link was stronger than Dangoro. All I said is that Link is strong enough to throw Dangoro. He defeated Dangoro by picking him up and throwing him. That one feat of strength puts Link above anyone in Dragon Age in regards to strength.
He shows it when he picks up Dangoro and beats Ganondorf in a sword lock. He also shows it when he wields the Ball and Chain easier than the boss. He shows it when he throws the Ball and Chsin and throws Blizzeta against a wall. If you can't see any of that, you are blind. Now instead of just saying Link is weak and being proven wrong, how about you show me that Dragon Age characters are strong?
You have yet to prove the Mother is a worthy opponent. In fact, you have yet to prove anything at all. If you cannot provide proof for anything you say, you are just wasting everyone's time.
Yes, we already know Link is skilled. This does not make Link any weaker.
How does he get beaten when the Magic Armor prevents the Mother from hurting him at all? The only thing Link needs to do is run up and Mortal Draw the Mother while the Magic Armor blocks all her attacks.
Do you think I am incapable of doing research? I have watched enough gameplay videos to know how Dragon Age works, and I know that Link has resistance to mental powers like what you said the Mother had BUT FAILED TO PROVE IN ANY WAY.
No, he can survive one attack from one minor orcish character he hasn't shown the ability to kill. LOL.
This isn't a zelda game where you attack something once and it goes down he needs to do damage a lot of it to do so and he's busy being attacked by the Mother herself and other tentacles.
You haven't proven he's invincible. That's also ludicrous basically your claim is nothing can hurt him by the magic armor so if his world was destroyed he'd still survive. Not surprising mind coming from you though.
Neither time in each cannon did it ever kill anyone which further shows this game doesn't apply to physics by any means unless you feel it does ? Nope, sorry but until you can prove it can be fatal to anyone inside the game and quit ignoring the actual portrayal within the game you have nothing as usual.
Link isn't srrong enough to throw him outside his gear so the only time he can deal with an opponent larger than himself is with gear and strength wise he didn't show any strength anywhere near close to being superior to any knight he faced in the game. You have nothing yet again. In the game he isn't portrayed as strong.
The Mother's abilities make Link's attacks worthless as he can't even get close enough to attack her. She can make him swing wildly as she attacks him through her tentacles.
You haven't played the game so as usual you have no idea just arguing ignorantly against without a clue good or bad about Mother.
He depends on skill and is never portrayed as overpowering an opponent and being so much stronger they can't hope to face him. Never. Not once. I played the game and found him to be a very weak hero imo.
You need to prove magic armor makes him invincible.
You are asking for answers and are unsure about the game as you haven't played it. You are a wiki arguer the worst kind. You have no knowledge of your own but argue for or against regardless.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He can't he is busy slashing wildy as the tentacles attack him. With the mortal draw he dies as well if he gets hit. LOL.
Link has no reason to slash wildly when a single Great Spin will destroy all of the Mother's tentacles. Quickly followed by a Mortal Draw to the face.
No, he can survive one attack from one minor orcish character he hasn't shown the ability to kill. LOL.
He can tank an attack from a demonstratably strong character with no damage. Since the Mother isn't demonstratably strong, she can't damage him either. King Bulblin's ridiculous durability has no bearing on his attack power, so I don't see why you bring that up.
This isn't a zelda game where you attack something once and it goes down he needs to do damage a lot of it to do so and he's busy being attacked by the Mother herself and other tentacles.
But that's how the game works, Quanchi. Are you really telling me that you're ignoring what happens in Zelda just to try and make Dragon seem more powerful? Again, a Great Spin to rid himself of the tentacles, and then a one hit kill Mortal Draw to the face.
You haven't proven he's invincible. That's also ludicrous basically your claim is nothing can hurt him by the magic armor so if his world was destroyed he'd still survive. Not surprising mind coming from you though.
You haven't proven the Mother is strong.
You haven't proven the tentacles are strong.
You haven't proven the Mother is durable.
You haven't proven the tentacles are durable.
You haven't proven the Mother or the tentacles are even a threat to Link. But fine, if you want me to go find proof while you steadfastly refuse to prove anything you have ever said, I will do it.
YouTube video
0:35. "Wear it and your rupees become magical. The armor will protect you, so if you get hit, you will lose rupees, not health."
YouTube video
And as you can see, even when Link is hit, he does not take damage.
There you are, some freakin' proof that what I say is true. Why don't you ever do this for me?
Neither time in each cannon did it ever kill anyone which further shows this game doesn't apply to physics by any means unless you feel it does ? Nope, sorry but until you can prove it can be fatal to anyone inside the game and quit ignoring the actual portrayal within the game you have nothing as usual.
Link is the only human to ever be fired from that cannon, so it has never had the opportunity to kill anyone except Link, who managed to resist the terminal velocity launch. If you just think about physics, this makes Link extremely tough, and you arguing that people can't be killed by this is not logical or even rational.
Link isn't srrong enough to throw him outside his gear so the only time he can deal with an opponent larger than himself is with gear and strength wise he didn't show any strength anywhere near close to being superior to any knight he faced in the game. You have nothing yet again. In the game he isn't portrayed as strong.
The gear weighs him down only. Unless, of course, you think the boots increase Link's strength. So answer the question now: Do you believe the boots make Link stronger? This is a yes or no question, so please don't say anything other than either a "yes" or a "no." And please don't try to dodge the question again.
The Mother's abilities make Link's attacks worthless as he can't even get close enough to attack her. She can make him swing wildly as she attacks him through her tentacles.
Great Spin kills tentacles. Mortal Draw kills Mother. She cannot make Link swing wildly because Link has enough protection to make the resistence check.
You haven't played the game so as usual you have no idea just arguing ignorantly against without a clue good or bad about Mother.
Quanchi, I have watched two different walkthroughs for fight the Mother, so you pulling the ignorance card is just desperation, since you seem to just be trying to change the subject rather than provide the proof I am asking for.
He depends on skill and is never portrayed as overpowering an opponent and being so much stronger they can't hope to face him. Never. Not once. I played the game and found him to be a very weak hero imo.
He overpowered Ganondorf in the sword lock, which proves you wrong immediately. Again, in your opion does not change the facts, which are that Link is stronger than you think he is. Dangoro, Blizzeta, and Ganondorf all prove this.
You need to prove magic armor makes him invincible.
Done.
You are asking for answers and are unsure about the game as you haven't played it. You are a wiki arguer the worst kind. You have no knowledge of your own but argue for or against regardless.
As I have told you, I already watched two videos of someone fighting the Mother, and I did not see what you have described. Unless you can prove it by posting a video or something similar, I am force to assume you are making things up.
To anyone else who has played Dragon Age Awakening, would you mind terribly helping Quanchi and I out here? I just want to know what he is describing as an ability of the Mother's, as I personally have not seen it in action. Please?
Originally posted by The ScenarioHe gets hit by her attack which causes him to do so. It's one of her abilities.
Link has no reason to slash wildly when a single Great Spin will destroy all of the Mother's tentacles. Quickly followed by a Mortal Draw to the face.He can tank an attack from a demonstratably strong character with no damage. Since the Mother isn't demonstratably strong, she can't damage him either. King Bulblin's ridiculous durability has no bearing on his attack power, so I don't see why you bring that up.
But that's how the game works, Quanchi. Are you really telling me that you're ignoring what happens in Zelda just to try and make Dragon seem more powerful? Again, a Great Spin to rid himself of the tentacles, and then a one hit kill Mortal Draw to the face.
You haven't proven the Mother is strong.
You haven't proven the tentacles are strong.
You haven't proven the Mother is durable.
You haven't proven the tentacles are durable.
You haven't proven the Mother or the tentacles are even a threat to Link. But fine, if you want me to go find proof while you steadfastly refuse to prove anything you have ever said, I will do it.
YouTube video
0:35. "Wear it and your rupees become magical. The armor will protect you, so if you get hit, you will lose rupees, not health."
YouTube video
And as you can see, even when Link is hit, he does not take damage.
There you are, some freakin' proof that what I say is true. Why don't you ever do this for me?Link is the only human to ever be fired from that cannon, so it has never had the opportunity to kill anyone except Link, who managed to resist the terminal velocity launch. If you just think about physics, this makes Link extremely tough, and you arguing that people can't be killed by this is not logical or even rational.
The gear weighs him down only. Unless, of course, you think the boots increase Link's strength. So answer the question now: Do you believe the boots make Link stronger? This is a yes or no question, so please don't say anything other than either a "yes" or a "no." And please don't try to dodge the question again.
Great Spin kills tentacles. Mortal Draw kills Mother. She cannot make Link swing wildly because Link has enough protection to make the resistence check.
Quanchi, I have watched two different walkthroughs for fight the Mother, so you pulling the ignorance card is just desperation, since you seem to just be trying to change the subject rather than provide the proof I am asking for.
He overpowered Ganondorf in the sword lock, which proves you wrong immediately. Again, in your opion does not change the facts, which are that Link is stronger than you think he is. Dangoro, Blizzeta, and Ganondorf all prove this.
Done.
As I have told you, I already watched two videos of someone fighting the Mother, and I did not see what you have described. Unless you can prove it by posting a video or something similar, I am force to assume you are making things up.
To anyone else who has played Dragon Age Awakening, would you mind terribly helping Quanchi and I out here? I just want to know what he is describing as an ability of the Mother's, as I personally have not seen it in action. Please?
One attack with blunt force trauma. That's like someone shrugging off a punch and using your logic says all punches cannot harm that person. Worst logic ever.
So Link can't be damaged now ? Why ?
Link needs to hit with this attack a lot though and in the meantime he loses valuable health or his rupees diminish making him vulnerable.
I don't have to it's obvious these attacks would hurt him as everything in the game does including boomerangs from monkeys and plants. You are ignoring how he's portrayed again like always.
This only buys him some time and once he runs out he is susceptible to damage.
So you really believe the creators portrayed this as fatal to anyone else save Link ? Do you honestly believe that ? Please say yes.
The boots make the feat possible. I have answered this question and it's 100 percent accurate.
He is caught by her ability to swing wildly while taking damage. he dies, every time.
You haven't played the game you watch others do so so you cannot grasp a feel for the game itself and how it works.
False, and secondly he wasn't drawing power from triforce. It's also not canon either and you can lose those tests and still beat him.
Link wins due to his skill not overpowering strength. Not once.
Temporarily. 😉
I don't make things up sorry but believe what you want and as usual you have no idea because you haven't played the game. you might not even notice if you saw it because you can only tell if you switch into the character but you cannot control him or heal him outside a group heal by another mage.
Ignorance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ignorance.
Yes you are full of it, but answer me this Quanchi, why is it when I look across your name and your posts in this entire thread and every other on this forum do I not see a single website posted?, not a single piece of evidencen either video or website. hell I would prefer even a wiki as evidence if you cant do any more than that, I mean spamming claims over and over without proof does not counter as evidence.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He gets hit by her attack which causes him to do so. It's one of her abilities.
If you are indeed talking about the Scream debuff, that only stuns. If you could actually get a name for the ability that's be great. Regardless, Link has mental defenses that prevent that kind of thing. If you remember, he was completely unaffected by the Fused Shadows and Mirror Shards, which caused both Darbus and Yeta to go berserk.
One attack with blunt force trauma. That's like someone shrugging off a punch and using your logic says all punches cannot harm that person. Worst logic ever.
No, it's like someone shrugging off a club to the face and logic saying punches that are weaker than the club cannot harm them. The Mother has nothing to indicate she's as strong as King Bulblin.
So Link can't be damaged now ? Why ?
Couple reasons. First, Mother isn't comparable to a giant cannon. Second, Magic Armor.
Link needs to hit with this attack a lot though and in the meantime he loses valuable health or his rupees diminish making him vulnerable.
Nope, Mortal Draw automatically kills in one hit, so Link only needs to hit once.
I don't have to it's obvious these attacks would hurt him as everything in the game does including boomerangs from monkeys and plants. You are ignoring how he's portrayed again like always.
Well, you're ignoring him being portrayed as strong. Cutscene still takes precedence over gameplay, and based on Link's cutscene portrayal, Mother can't hurt him.
This only buys him some time and once he runs out he is susceptible to damage.
Yeah, too bad he'll have killed the Mother with a single Mortal Draw long before that happens.
So you really believe the creators portrayed this as fatal to anyone else save Link ? Do you honestly believe that ? Please say yes.
No, Quanchi. You are strawmanning and trying to put words in my mouth. I said that no other human has used the cannon, so there is no portrayal to see. The portrayal does not exist. It was not portrayed at all, in either direction.However, physics, logic, and rational thought all state quite clearly that a fall from that height would turn a human to paste. But, since you seem so determined to let everyone in Hyrule be just as invincible, we can do that, too. By your own argument, Quanchi, Mother can't harm anyone in Hyrule, since you think everyone in Hyrule could survive the cannon.
The boots make the feat possible. I have answered this question and it's 100 percent accurate.
You dodged the question even though I asked you nicely not to. That was not a yes or no, Quanchi. Just give me a yes or give me a no. One word, that's it.
He is caught by her ability to swing wildly while taking damage. he dies, every time.
He resists, and Mortal Draws the Mother.
You haven't played the game you watch others do so so you cannot grasp a feel for the game itself and how it works.
That really is irrelevant, since it's just your opinion.
False, and secondly he wasn't drawing power from triforce. It's also not canon either and you can lose those tests and still beat him.
Not canon? But Quanchi, you said we could use gameplay. Not alloowing this is just hypocritical.
Link wins due to his skill not overpowering strength. Not once.
That doesn't mean he does not have overpowering strength compared to Dragon Age.
Temporarily. 😉
Long enough.
I don't make things up sorry but believe what you want and as usual you have no idea because you haven't played the game. you might not even notice if you saw it because you can only tell if you switch into the character but you cannot control him or heal him outside a group heal by another mage.
Apparently no one else knows what you're talking about, either, though.
Ignorance.
Flaming.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No proof she weighs 300 tons but nice try with the imaginary numbers. You really are out there. Link to stop anything which weighs more than himself needs the boots for this but if he equips them he lacks any kind of mobility and will be torn apart.Breaking the chains is nice and all but he is powered up by the triforce which seems to empower him temporarily so unless his hand is lighting up he isn't normally this strong.
This isn't canon either and it's a gameplay mechanic nor is dorf actively or passively using the triforce to increase his power.
I appreciate the effort but it's a bit misguided. Link isn't portrayed as strong either and dorf only is superhumanly strong when using the triforce of power.
Link doesn't even close the gap and she does too much damage to him to even close the gap to make this an actual fight.
If you have the capability for simple maths check my reply to Scenario. Annnnd if you dont want to admit its weight for what I can only guess is some passive fear of maths (?) then you have to admit that ice at that size is heavier then Link. To compare, a normal car [which you can in no way deny is considerably smaller then that ice mass] weighs 2 tons, and youre saying Link can only move his own weight because...?
Actually that was when it first activated and in LoZ triforce users get increasingly stronger after activation. Is the same for every game. So in fact he's stronger by the time he faces Link at the end.
In-game cutscenes, computer controlled moments in gameplay and QTE etc are treated as cannon. Been that way for ages now. If not someone like Kratos would have little strength to his name. Like said just above, that was an activation scene. Its now active and empowering him since that moment.
Link isnt portrayed as being strong... even if he could beat Bo in a sumo match? ^^ That guy must be 200kg with his height and size, obviously more then Link. This alone proves he's above athlete strength.
.___. Normal featless warriors close the gap. Normal featless warriors beat her. C'mon I bet even you could evade those slow attacks.
Originally posted by The Scenario
I must admit that I, too, am curious as to how the 300 ton figure for Blizzeta came about. BloodRain, can you post the math or whatever process you used to determine it? If true, TP Link just went up yet another strenngth category.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Yes you are full of it, but answer me this Quanchi, why is it when I look across your name and your posts in this entire thread and every other on this forum do I not see a single website posted?, not a single piece of evidencen either video or website. hell I would prefer even a wiki as evidence if you cant do any more than that, I mean spamming claims over and over without proof does not counter as evidence.
Here is what helps him most
Real evidence < His claims.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtWhat have I stated that is incorrect about dragon age ?
Yes you are full of it, but answer me this Quanchi, why is it when I look across your name and your posts in this entire thread and every other on this forum do I not see a single website posted?, not a single piece of evidencen either video or website. hell I would prefer even a wiki as evidence if you cant do any more than that, I mean spamming claims over and over without proof does not counter as evidence.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWhen has Link ever punched anyone and killed them due to his superior strength ?
Link punches her, she dies.
Originally posted by SpadeKingI do use real evidence from the games. Get it together.
Here is what helps him mostReal evidence < His claims.
Originally posted by BloodRain😂
If you have the capability for simple maths check my reply to Scenario. Annnnd if you dont want to admit its weight for what I can only guess is some passive fear of maths (?) then you have to admit that ice at that size is heavier then Link. To compare, a normal car [which you can in no way deny is considerably smaller then that ice mass] weighs 2 tons, and youre saying Link can only move his own weight because...?Actually that was when it first activated and in LoZ triforce users get increasingly stronger after activation. Is the same for every game. So in fact he's stronger by the time he faces Link at the end.
In-game cutscenes, computer controlled moments in gameplay and QTE etc are treated as cannon. Been that way for ages now. If not someone like Kratos would have little strength to his name. Like said just above, that was an activation scene. Its now active and empowering him since that moment.
Link isnt portrayed as being strong... even if he could beat Bo in a sumo match? ^^ That guy must be 200kg with his height and size, obviously more then Link. This alone proves he's above athlete strength.
.___. Normal featless warriors close the gap. Normal featless warriors beat her. C'mon I bet even you could evade those slow attacks.
I just made it a sphere for quickness sake. Its around 8m around the waist ring, 4/3 πR3 (r=400cm [I work in cm >>]) = 268082573.333*0.92 [ice density] = 246635967 g
= 272 tons, rounded up due to it being more egg then ball in shape. One throw of the Ball&Chain being able to knock this weight across the room at a good speeds more or less confirms Goron lifting without Boots.
You don't understand how most artists, writer's, or creators go about when they draw or create something the hero takes on. This is Kurt Busiek's response.
They don't even make sense half the time -- if a stat in the Handbook says that Character A can lift 120 tons, most artists don't know what 120 tons looks like, and they don't go and check whether a particular airplane or tank or whatever is within the character's stated limits; they just figure that means "wicked strong" and draw what looks to them appropriately "wicked."
I think that system works better than assigning numbers -- all that happens when you do that is that someone says Spider-Man can lift 40 tons (or whatever) because of that humongous machine he lifted once with incredible effort, and then bang, all of a sudden it's his standard strength, and fans who use to see Spider-Man go up against three guys with lead pipes and think it was an okay fight are going, "No way! He can lift 40 tons! That means he can juggle Buicks!"
Never mind that Spider-Man was never the kind of character to juggle Buicks, or even lift one, but hey, it says he can lift 40 tons in a power chart somewhere, and that's taken as more important than the way the character had been written and drawn.
You're the typical fan who argues based on feats alone and ignores how the character is portrayed and assigned bogus unprovable numbers to something they perceive and assign it as something they can do 100 percent of the time. It's an exercise in futility and why arguing just based on feats and ignoring character portrayal is the worst way you could ever debate.
You're the typical fan who claims he can juggle buicks.
Originally posted by The ScenarioNo, Link doesn't. Link has never faced these defenses before either.
If you are indeed talking about the Scream debuff, that only stuns. If you could actually get a name for the ability that's be great. Regardless, Link has mental defenses that prevent that kind of thing. If you remember, he was completely unaffected by the Fused Shadows and Mirror Shards, which caused both Darbus and Yeta to go berserk.No, it's like someone shrugging off a club to the face and logic saying punches that are weaker than the club cannot harm them. The Mother has nothing to indicate she's as strong as King Bulblin.
Couple reasons. First, Mother isn't comparable to a giant cannon. Second, Magic Armor.
Nope, Mortal Draw automatically kills in one hit, so Link only needs to hit once.
Well, you're ignoring him being portrayed as strong. Cutscene still takes precedence over gameplay, and based on Link's cutscene portrayal, Mother can't hurt him.
Yeah, too bad he'll have killed the Mother with a single Mortal Draw long before that happens.
No, Quanchi. You are strawmanning and trying to put words in my mouth. I said that no other human has used the cannon, so there is no portrayal to see. The portrayal does not exist. It was not portrayed at all, in either direction.However, physics, logic, and rational thought all state quite clearly that a fall from that height would turn a human to paste. But, since you seem so determined to let everyone in Hyrule be just as invincible, we can do that, too. By your own argument, Quanchi, Mother can't harm anyone in Hyrule, since you think everyone in Hyrule could survive the cannon.
You dodged the question even though I asked you nicely not to. That was not a yes or no, Quanchi. Just give me a yes or give me a no. One word, that's it.
He resists, and Mortal Draws the Mother.
That really is irrelevant, since it's just your opinion.
Not canon? But Quanchi, you said we could use gameplay. Not alloowing this is just hypocritical.
That doesn't mean he does not have overpowering strength compared to Dragon Age.
Long enough.
Apparently no one else knows what you're talking about, either, though.
Flaming.
That has nothing to do with this spell which he can not actively resist. You are comparing apples to oranges.
The Mother doesn't have to be as strong as Bulbin for one. Secondly, strength doesn't always determine victor. You seem obsessed with strength and ignore abilities, power, etc. The tentacles and her abilities rip him a new one. Link has no way of avoiding them.
Mother can drain all magic from your character so there goes the magic armor. LOL.
Link dies as a tentacle hits him as mortal draw leaves him open to death as well.
Both go hand in hand. We don't ignore how he's portrayed throughout the game just because you really like Link. That's not how it works.
Link dies as mortal draw leaves him open for death as well.
Link dies in the game if he falls from the sky city and takes damage if he falls too high. In the cannon it's not designed to kill anyone so don't make a false comparison or try to make him able to survive 30,000 foot drops. You are all over the place here and cannot answer my question so you rescind your claim. Excellent.
Boots make feat possible.
You haven't played the game you haven't a clue and it is relevant.
How can Link resist this ?
Link doesn't have overwhelming strength to dragon age. It's completely ridiculous and we see Link struggle to maintain a wild horse.
Not when he swings wildly for a time his rupees go out or she drains all his magic aka armor.
That's not canon. He isn't stronger than dorf only if you do so is he. Laughs.
I don't care. It's an ability in the game.
Not when it's true. You admitted you were ignorant more or less when you stated you hadn't played the game.