Raziel vs OOT Link

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Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
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GJ, Blax. 😛 You are now a part of this shit storm.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Righto, next you'll be telling me he threw the pillar. 😐

Yeh you see thats false, he lifted it above his own height and it stood for less than a second before he pushed it. The time he took to lift it to above his own height (6 feet say) was around a second.

Raziel did not lift it one meter, in one second.

Lifts it to 2/3~ his height [122cm] in 0.25~s. (quick look)

Originally posted by Burning thought
Yeh you see thats false, he lifted it above his own height and it stood for less than a second before he pushed it. The time he took to lift it to above his own height (6 feet say) was around a second.

Raziel did not lift it one meter, in one second.

I checked before I did the math. 🙂 OBSERVE.

Image 1. "NYEEEEAH."
Image 2. 3:31, he begins to lift.
Image 3. 3:32, He's moved it... 2 meters? NO WAIT, LOOK AT IMAGE 4!
Image 4. 3:32.5, He STANDS UP. He was still crouched.

I did this, Bloodrain figuires next to my own.

Jouls for Razels block launching

635029.318 kilograms

1.92024 meter (me) 1.12 meter (Bloodrain)

1 second (me) 0.25 second (bloodrain)

Velocity= 1.92024 (me) 4.48 (Bloodrain)

Velocity^= 20.0704 (Bloodrain)

3.6873216576 x 635029.318 (me)

20.0704 x 635029.318 (Bloodrain)

2341557.3574723575168 (me) 12745292.4239872 (Bloodrain)

1170778.6787361787584 kinetic energy, jouls. (me) 6372646.2119936 (Bloodrain)

Considering Bloodrains workings are typically good, and in no part to the fact his figuire is far higher than what I got, Raziels jouls are 6.4 million jouls rounded up. So much for 300 kj from Dwarf Raziel 😬

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I checked before I did the math. 🙂 OBSERVE.

Image 1. "NYEEEEAH."
Image 2. 3:31, he begins to lift.
Image 3. 3:32, He's moved it... 2 meters? NO WAIT, LOOK AT IMAGE 4!
Image 4. 3:32.5, He STANDS UP. He was [b]still crouched.
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Tadah. 1. meter per second.

You also fail to realise he NEVER supports it's entire weight, only a fraction for the frist second before gravity does the rest.

It was already lifted up before .32, your image shows Raziel getting up while holding the block steady. he doe not push it over until after that. The block using Bloodrains numbers are still better off. And thats a contradiction, he does for a fraction, but NEVER?

Youve been proven wrong by the source, and yourself it seems. All Gravity does is pulls it over after Raziel does the final push.

From the beginning of 3:31 to the beginning of 3:32, the only time he's actually moving it under his own power, he moves it 1 meter. at 3:32.5 gravity already has it.

My numbers are accurate, 300 kj strength for Raziel.

Originally posted by BloodRain
A canon cutscene has Midna telling Link that just touching the Crystal will transform him, which is proven that it can by using it or going into the fog made of it.

YouTube video
1:10 and 1:18 ^what the fog is made of. Thats one canon instance saying that it can still effect him to theories of how it doesn't.

Scenario said it a few times in his posts, and her tribes magic is evil.

So Link's body cant take the same force as his arms?


Just 'cos >.>

He starts after 3:31, and finishes before 3:32 which is when he stands to push the block. Youve cleverly timed your taking of the images above I admit, but Raziel takes some time before he pushes it over. 0.25-0.30 sounds accurate now I look at it again.

I dont know where your getting 1 meter from, where you basing this on? Even when he stands, the block is not far below the top of his head, afterall his hands are above his head which is where he pushes it.

Raziel: 6.3 million.

Link: 75kj

Raziel wins strength contest...next!

Originally posted by BloodRain
Just 'cos >.>
Overridden by the fact the sword's already over-powered it, and as I keep telling you, the sword is sentient. 😐

Originally posted by Burning thought
He starts after 3:31, and finishes before 3:32 which is when he stands to push the block. Youve cleverly timed your taking of the images above I admit, but Raziel takes some time before he pushes it over. 0.25-0.30 sounds accurate now I look at it again.

I dont know where your getting 1 meter from, where you basing this on? Even when he stands, the block is not far below the top of his head, afterall his hands are above his head which is where he pushes it.

Raziel: 6.3 million.

Link: 75kj

Raziel wins strength contest...next!

Lol'd, no. Go through it yourself. 0.2 seconds, when I have screenshots IN THREAD, and CC already confirmed with me he takes a full 2 seconds to do this thing, PROVING otherwise? haermm You're delusional.

1 meter per second, and I'm being generous by using the pillar's full weight (which he NEVER supports), in my math.

And here's where it gets hilarious, you actually claimed Raziel is stronger, against cutscenes, screenshots, and math. haermm GJ.

But that statement happened 'after' he got the MS, it only took it off but can still effect as said and shown afterwards.

So can canonly be effected by evil magic and [OoT] his body cant take as much force as his arms...

I just did and your taking liberty with the fact in about a second Raziel gets up to push the block which is where your final screenshot displays. Youve even taken a screen shot of a failed attempt as if that was part of the animation/cutscene.

Yeh contradiction, your pulling 1 meter out of your ass despite it being around Raziels hands (over his head) and its full weight has to be moved by Raziel, otherwise he would not have been able to lift it up.

Cutscenes? No, I am using the same cutscene to prove otherwise, combine that with the fact I have played it myself your the one claiming Raziel is weaker without game knowledge vs cutscenes and math other than your own.

Originally posted by BloodRain
But that statement happened 'after' he got the MS, it only took it off but can still effect as said and shown afterwards.

So can canonly be effected by evil magic and [OoT] his body cant take as much force as his arms...

His body clearly can, as it supported the pillar with the same ease his arms did.

Also, Midna's not omniscient, and we've already seen the sword > that specific curse, Link can /allow/ himself to be changed, and Ganon > fog, so ... Yeah. Gameplay obstacle is gameplay. 😐

You ready to let BT know his math is flawed yet?

Originally posted by BloodRain
But that statement happened 'after' he got the MS, it only took it off but can still effect as said and shown afterwards.

So can canonly be effected by evil magic and [OoT] his body cant take as much force as his arms...

Raziel does not use evil magic but yes, I think it was obvious from the beginning of this thread that regardless of Links strength, hes not taking a single hit from Raziel either, infact with Raziels claws+Strength, Links going to need a hellava feat of durability.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Raziel does not use evil magic but yes, I think it was obvious from the beginning of this thread that regardless of Links strength, hes not taking a single hit from Raziel either, infact with Raziels claws+Strength, Links going to need a hellava feat of durability.
Already supplied, Raziel cannot physicly harm Link, see Ganon disarming Link. Nor is he quick enough to land a blow.

I cant see how force enough to only send a light sword a few meters>>Raziels strength lol......

hes also far quicker than Link.

Links got next to no speed or durability feats of worth or note.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I cant see how force enough to only send a light sword a few meters>>Raziels strength lol......

hes also far quicker than Link.

Links got next to no speed or durability feats of worth or note.

Translation: BT plugs his ears and covers his eyes whenever someone provides evidence that doesn't benefit LoK. u.u