Raziel vs OOT Link

But hes still finished by 3:31 as my second image and your 6th one shows. The pushing part is irrelevant as by then hes stopped pulling it higher. Problem is, we cant see fully how high he takes it, because he still pulls it higher slightly after standing up, so it may be over 2/3 his full height. "sigh"

But as I said...

Originally posted by Burning thought

Why is this still being argued, its irrelevant until someone actually [b]SHOWS Link taking any real damage. Raziel has a vast amount of power in his hands, Link currently has the durability to withstand something that can knock a light sword a few meters, anyone got a better feat? [/B]

My point is 3:32 is when he's absolutely done lifting.
The last 3:31 is just a hairsplit away from turning 3:32 anyway.

Basically, we need some exact timing breakdown to be accurate. Someone get it down to decimals or some shit because I don't care enough to. lol.

Its the same for 3:30 for the beginning of the lift, it only just goes to 3:31 when he begins lifting it. Theres certainly less than a second in the whole action. You would have to use some special software to get it into smaller decimals.

Also you realise Raziels strength is one thing, but it amplified by the PSI of the tip of his claw is something else entirely...

I said nothing about the 3:30 mark. That's simply when he finally finishes crouching down.

I know but I did, looking through, near the end of 3:30 hes just about to lift. The time between him lifting it is like 3:308

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This is a good image. it shows us Raziel almost at his full height before pushing. This is still 3:31, so therefore the next image (my old one) happens the camera angle just changes and he goes into a push.

Raziel is pretty much at full height here and the obelisk is nearly up to his mid-lower spine if not nearer his elbow/chest at this point. So Bloodrains calculations are perhaps quite clear despite the fact he only had a look at it lol.

While it is irrelevant to the conversation, I would just like to say that if Link was immune to Zant's crystal with the Master Sword, he would be unable to change forms at all. The process goes: Link touches it, changes, does whatever as a wolf, then changes back at will. The dark fog does the same thing, but only as long as Link is touching it; once he leaves he's free to change. So it seems that effects only work if they are constantly in effect, as if they are instant,the moment the pressure's off, Link can go back. BUT, there's a problem there. Link can stand, untransformed, in the Twilight Realm itself. It could be that the Twilight Realm's effect wasn't enough until the dark fog was introduced, which is possible since Zant's crystal was a more concentrated and solidified version of the dark fog. There's also the Fused Shadows and Mirror Shard to consider, as Link resisted their effects as well. I would say Link has passive resistence to average transformation effects, and active resistence to stronger effects that get past that resistance and are instant. The only thing Link has trouble with, then, is a powerful effect that gets past normal restistence, and is also a constant effect that does not lessen, or else Link could remove it.

I wonder if the Triforce of Courage would remove any transformation effects and just turn Link into a wolf regardless of the intention...?

I like how my points become irrelevant ¬¬ So a power above pieces of the Fused Shadow or Mirror shards would work on Link?

Originally posted by Burning thought
So Bloodrains calculations are perhaps quite clear despite the fact he only had a look at it lol.

Originally posted by BloodRain
I like how my points become irrelevant ¬¬ So a power above pieces of the Fused Shadow or Mirror shards would work on Link?

Just irrelevant to this discussion, as your talking about Twilight Princess while the thread is about Ocarina of Time. And yes, I'd say anything above those would work, but not for long unless it was constantly touching him.

Im going by the MS and TFoC consistency in the games. Least thats out of the way.

Originally posted by BloodRain
I like how my points become irrelevant ¬¬ So a power above pieces of the Fused Shadow or Mirror shards would work on Link?

My glance > everyones work ^^

Screenshot proved othyerqwise.

What did it save/protect Link from in aLttP?

Nah guessing > screenshots.

Originally posted by BloodRain
What did it save/protect Link from in aLttP?

Nah guessing > screenshots.

INDEED, SIER

BUMP FOR YOU MY GOOD SIRRAHS. No rest for the wicked.

Bump it when youve got a good durability and speed feat for Link, that actually shows both of those items rather than "assumptions" of said items.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Bump it when youve got a good durability and speed feat for Link, that actually shows both of those items rather than "assumptions" of said items.

That does not cover "good durability" or "shows both of those items", especially since its just a claim.

Originally posted by Burning thought
That does not cover "good durability" or "shows both of those items", especially since its just a claim.

Not sure how that is relevant to what I just said.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Not sure how that is relevant to what I just said.

Thats not even a reply to my previous posts either, are you doing this on purpose? thats spam if I recall.....

Also assuming the lightning thing was even a real feat (its not), reacting to Ganon is more of a possibility rather than lightning, which is also possible. Scenario (only one who seems to post evidence for your team, perhaps he will help your case later) posted a good example of a slow Ganon shot at child link, the shot itself was fast but the slow charge coupled with the obvious target would make blocking it possible assuming Child link did not just watch him charge/fire ofc.