He would just have to predict when Ganon is about to fire, easy. Its like in baseball, you dont have to necesserily be able to see/react to the ball in motion but more so the thrower. Its just timing, starting from the "thrower" and finishing with the hit. Ganons pretty obvious when he does some of these powers.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtBad example, borderline strawman fallacy, a baseball doesn't move at lightning speed. For Link to swing his sword in time to strike it requires retarded reaction time.
He would just have to predict when Ganon is about to fire, easy. Its like in baseball, you dont have to necesserily be able to see/react to the ball in motion but more so the thrower. Its just timing, starting from the "thrower" and finishing with the hit. Ganons pretty obvious when he does some of these powers.
You did not even counter me there, it was an excellent example. If Link cant swing his sword after Ganon has finished his retardedly long charge time before fireing it, then Link is indeed incapable in a fight if he cant judge something so slow and basic.
Furthermore if you can assume/make up "slow lightning balls" into as fast as natural lightning then it would be a double standard if I could not just claim Link "did not" do what the game shows us happened and instead relied on solely the bow since that seems to be what knocks Ganon down.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtExcept then the only one assuming anything is you, and incorrectly, since you cannot hit him with the bow without stunning him with his own magic first.
You did not even counter me there, it was an excellent example. If Link cant swing his sword after Ganon has finished his retardedly long charge time before fireing it, then Link is indeed incapable in a fight if he cant judge something so slow and basic.Furthermore if you can assume/make up "slow lightning balls" into as fast as natural lightning then it would be a double standard if I could not just claim Link "did not" do what the game shows us happened and instead relied on solely the bow since that seems to be what knocks Ganon down.
The lightning reflection is canon, and Ganon's lightning has been proven through out the series to be full speed. Link swatting it out of the air with his sword displays insane reaction time.
Not really considering your previous assumption. Why? logically that just stops him doing a next attack, is the bow that knocks him to the ground, if we can ignore certain things I can claim Link just dodges the slow lightning/Ganons slow charge up and then shoots an arrow before he does it again. Its ok for you to assume things then so can I...
The slow lightning orb reflection may be canon sure but in this case regardless of previous scenes hes chosen to use slow moving orbs. No, it shows something anyone could do, those orbs are slow, and furthermore taking your own version of LoZ as canon, its still not impressive because anyone can predict an opponent who takes as long as Ganon to toss it.
hes chosen to use slow moving orbs.No, you assume this, and for no valid reason outside gameplay mechanics. You assume Ganondorf intentionally slowed down his own attack, allowing Link to win? That is retarded. The attack in gameplay is designed for the playerr to reflect it, it is not in anyway representative of the actual speed of the bolt.
I dont assume this, thats what the game uses and thats what static, the only mechanic is the fact you have to counter his lightning to beat him, thats the mechanic. If your saying this is not usable then the whole feat is bogus regardless of how slow and useless it is. No, I know he used a slow attack because thats what we see in the game, your the one assuming theres not a good reason for using a slower moving orb. This is your narrative, your not the games designer so dont try and talk like you know this is the case, this is what you want to be the case so that Link actually has a above human reaction feat.
Here, ill provide evidence for you and hold your hand through the process:
He takes ages to charge, the bolts are really slow and Ganon is predictable.
Those slow moving bolts that take a good few seconds to even get to Link, are not equel to:
In any way, shape or form. Their orbs whos energy seems to be quicker than the orb itself, so its impossibe for it to be as quick as real lightning. I think you should find a real feat that helps link rather than reaching for this one, nobodies going to agree to it.
Screampaste after getting a good pasting (pun intended) likes to ignore it and any actual evidence.
For it to be faster than what the game shows, you would have to prove it was faster, not just claim "it had to be!!! zomg its a feattt!!"
If we can assume things are faster then they appear then Kain can move at light speed, simply because I dont like the slower speed of some projectiles in Blood omen.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtHas been shown innumerable times Ganondorf's lightning attacks are full speed. 😐 He even had full speed lightning in games which chronologicly preceed his gaining the ToP.
Screampaste after getting a good pasting (pun intended) likes to ignore it and any actual evidence.For it to be faster than what the game shows, you would have to prove it was faster, not just claim "it had to be!!! zomg its a feattt!!"
If we can assume things are faster then they appear then Kain can move at light speed, simply because I dont like the slower speed of some projectiles in Blood omen.
You assume, like the biased little troll you are, that Ganon intentionally sabotaged himself eith no evidence to support that.
But not here, you cant take an attack from one moment only to add it to others as you choose. I cant add the speed of Coles lightning call in Infamous to compacted lightning blasts that he fires as orbs (relevance ftw).
Yeh this is you getting all upset, I suggest you keep your cool in a debate "troll" and actually find some evidence rather than your lackluster claims. You are the one assuming Ganondorf sabotaged himself...not me. Infact your also assuming magic cant alter the way elemental forces work. Its like you have never played games with fireballs, lightning orbs etc
Kain moves at light speed because I want to close my eyes and add feats/speed to things that the game tells me otherwise. Coz i dont likes it 🙂
Does not change relevance however.....although I like how you stabbed yourself in the foot with the "seperate attacks" bit, because its the same with Ganon.
Yeh, Screampasty is pretty much holding his ears and using unbacked views of his own over the games canon.
Exactly why Zelda canon, such as Ganon using orbs of lightning that are slow is>>>>an angry fans hopes for a decent feat.
Oh, and Ganons extremely predictable as well. You reaching for reaction feats when prediction covers it, even assuming you had written the game your way and not the developers means theres still nothing helpful for link.
Now i have evidence, go get some yourself.
Originally posted by NephthysThe gameplay speed? A similar attack travels to and strikes Link instantly in a cutscene earlier in the game. (Before either character has their piece of the triforce) And Ganondorf's been shoosting lightning bolts since 1991, it's a staple attack, infact. In FSA, which predates OoT chronologicly, despite being released later, Ganon uses full speed lightning, in aLttP, same deal, infact, the ONLY times his attacks have ever been depicted as slow are in gameplay when Link (the player) needs to reflect them. How do you propose a human player reflect lightning in real time? 😐
ScreamPaste, you'll have to post the times when Ganon's lightning is 'full-speed', becuase in the vid BT posted that was absolutely nowhere near close to actual lightning. I can throw a rock faster than that. 😐
Originally posted by Burning thought
The fact the speed is in gameplay does not allow you to choose a more "canon" reference....you can just disguard the feat if all it is, is gameplay mechanic.Also your talking nonsense, how do you expect a player to block/escape bullets in real time? because Dante can do it.....
DMC players can, without slowing anything down, bat bullets out of the air?
Dante probably does it because all his best action takes place in cut scenes. Something Nintendo makes a point to avoid. Were they to follow Nintendo's lead, they would slow the bullets down.
Unless, of course, we're going to just assume things in video games always move at the same speed that we see. Of course, this would require a lot of re-discussion for threads long past.