Originally posted by zopzopWorshipers have nothing to do with the level of power of a "earth god" Odin power itself is tied into manythings. Just like anyother "being realm"
It has nothing to do with logic but good story telling.How does an Earth god with little to no worshipers accomplish things cosmic beings haven't been shown capable of doing?
In fact how can any Earth god get into even a "mere" planet busting fight without involving other skyfathers from the various pantheons. Since some skyfathers actually have worshipers on Earth and one would assume they wouldn't take it laying down if someone was threatening their power base (their worshipers).
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Worshipers have nothing to do with the level of power of a "earth god" Odin power itself is tied into manythings. Just like anyother "being realm"
The Odinforce it Odin and his 2 brothers power combine. PLue The Odinpower was tied into all of Asgard "the realm not the scrape pile it is know. All the skyfathers are way beyond earth anyway those the reason that the coucil of god heads don't get invovled in earths problems "or try not to. Skyfather have been show to have huge amounts of power and the line between elder god and skyfathers is not the great for the must part. Anyway Chaos wars is starting to show the range of the power of the skyfathers once again to beyond earth bound levels
Well according to the Handbook it was : personal power, worshipers, and one other thing that I cant' remember probably influence.
But it doesn't matter, writers will do what they feel like.
Originally posted by zopzop
Well according to the Handbook it was : personal power, worshipers, and one other thing that I cant' remember probably influence.But it doesn't matter, writers will do what they feel like.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why do you treat Handbooks as superior to on-panel evidence? They're supplementary fluff.
This. Odin can't possibly have more than a literal handful of serious worshippers in present day marvel, if that. more obscure dieties (cytorrak) are in even worse shape. considering the monstrous amount of power they have, number of worshippers clearly has nothing to do with power level.
Ironically, 2099 marvel found the norse gods with LOADS of worshippers as well as an organized church, but they had all died out and were nowhere to be found.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
[B]This. Odin can't possibly have more than a literal handful of serious worshippers in present day marvel, if that. more obscure dieties (cytorrak) are in even worse shape. considering the monstrous amount of power they have, number of worshippers clearly has nothing to do with power level.
Uhm you realize that Cytorrak (he's both a demon and a god) is worshiped by various beings in numerous dimensions right?
Ironically, 2099 marvel found the norse gods with LOADS of worshippers as well as an organized church, but they had all died out and were nowhere to be found.
Shazam! There goes their power base again!
Originally posted by zopzopHandbook are by far the worst resource to use for any comics. I swear they make stuff up just to fill pages.
Well according to the Handbook it was : personal power, worshipers, and one other thing that I cant' remember probably influence.But it doesn't matter, writers will do what they feel like.
Odin's power is not dependent on his worshipers? Where the f*ck did they get that information from? I cannot remember a single instance where that was stated. If it was, it was probably during the Thomas age where he retconned a large portion of Asgardian history and really limited Odin's power. I cannot say why however. Probably the same Cosmic wanking mentality these idiots seem to have.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
This is a pretty tough call.the power of a cosmic cube is supposedly infinite (yes, I know there's multiple layers of infinity), and as it evolves into a cube being it places self imposed limits on itself, becoming weaker in the process.
So POTENTIALLY, one cube being could wipe out any number of skyfathers. ten would probably even be lowballing it. We don't have a lot of feats for kubik, but Shaper of worlds devastated a significant chunk of the skrull empire before it decided to limit itself. Even AFTER self limitation it still has reality warping abilities on a planetary scale (Odin definitely does NOT) so I'd probably still comfortably put your average cube being (that is, not at full potential) over a decent amount of skyfathers- ten of Odin's class combined might be pushing it though.
Lulz. You're so confidently claiming that Odin does not have reality warping abilities at planetary level when I'd wager you know shit all about Odin, the Odin Force, and it's limits.
Odin does have reality warping abilities on a planetary level. You know why? Because it's been shown Odin has reality warping abilities on a planetary level. Planetary and beyond. Remnants of an Odin spell packed enough power to create an entire dimension filled with it's own Asgardian duplicates. Some of Odin's power has been used to warp the entire Marvel Earth and so on.
I do not understand why people have such a hard time with Odin being a Cosmic player just because his a deity that was worshiped only by the race he created.
Originally posted by Starscream M
he struggled to put thanos down with his own power...a true cosmic would not struggle against thanos
Why do people attempt to define Odin's power level with this one showing? I don't understand this logic.
The Thanos fight is Odin's weakest battle showing I'd wager. The other one being the off panel alien invasion fight.
Odin has multiple feats of power and battles beyond his encounter with Thanos.
This illogical attempt to gauge Odin's level by one showing is illogical. Like all characters he has some poor to not so good showings, but their either equaled or outnumbered by his more powerful feats.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympuswe could take odin's showing against thor, when he had destroyer armor, it wasn't that impressive either
Why do people attempt to define Odin's power level with this one showing? I don't understand this logic.The Thanos fight is Odin's weakest battle showing I'd wager. The other one being the off panel alien invasion fight.
Odin has plenty of feats and battles far and beyond his battle with Thanos.
This illogical attempt to gauge Odin's level by one showing is illogical. Like all characters he has some poor to not so good showings, but their either equaled or outnumbered by his more powerful feats.
I'd define the Odin Force as basically a Cosmic Cube lite. Depending on the writer it ranges from a planetary warping force to a Universal level force.
Originally posted by Starscream M
we could take odin's showing against thor, when he had destroyer armor, it wasn't that impressive either
What about his showings against Thor?
The Celestial battle? It was during a period when Thomas had retconned the Gods, and powered Odin down. During that same period, the Celestials were high up the food chain. A step above the previous top dogs like the Watcher, Odin, and yes, even Galactus.