Skyfathers vs Cube Beings...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
1) He wiped out the majority of Annihilus' fleet and took out three star systems. I can provide the scans if you deem it necessary.

Yup, I can confirm this.

2) Not really familiar with Odins history, what are his best feats?

Believe it or not, Odin has on panel galaxy busting feats. He also took out Surtur, who busted a galaxy to form his sword. His battle with Seth shook the multiverse and ignited long dead stars. Jean claimed she foresaw the death of all reality.

I personally think it's bullxxxx but that's what was shown on panel.

So to be able to destroy 3 galaxies in an outburst that was still expanding at the time of the report is a great feat for a severely weakened Galactus.

Star system = galaxy? I took it to mean solar system.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
1) He wiped out the majority of Annihilus' fleet and took out three star systems. I can provide the scans if you deem it necessary.

Here's the scan where it talks about the galaxy:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg

Here's the actual scene:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-005.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-006-007.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-008.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-009.jpg

Can someone post the scan please?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
That was 'at least' as well. Plus he took out a Watcher in that instance.

Here's the scan where it talks about the galaxy:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg

All this means is that the fleet was spread out throughout a Galaxy and Galactus wiped them all out. The one in Annihilation was more specific I believe. I'm assuming that scene straight up says Galactus wipes out a Star System.

Okay, I found it. Gimme a second to upload them.

http://img97.imageshack.us/i/0262destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img543.imageshack.us/i/0263destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img42.imageshack.us/i/0264destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img177.imageshack.us/i/0265destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img706.imageshack.us/i/0266destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/0267destroystheannihila.jpg/
http://img641.imageshack.us/i/026destroystheannihilat.jpg/

1. The position and movement of the canisters plus Annihilus' reaction about the Power Cosmic being his strongly suggests -which logic also supports- that those canisters' energy were used.

2. I'm on the fence about whether the Star Systems were obliterated completely or if it was limited mostly to Annihilus' fleets. Any further evidence about this would sway my opinion to one side or the other most likely.

I'd assume some planets that had only Annihilus' troops as their occupants were destroyed. Maybe even an entire System or two, but I believe the wave was mostly a cleansing of the Annihilation wave instead of an actual destruction of a Galaxy.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) I deem it necessary. I don't recall the wiping out of Star Systems just the wiping out of a fleet that spanned Star Systems. This isn't worth logging into my main PC for.

2) Destroying multiple Galaxies and threatening the fabric of the Multiverse as an after effect of a battle, the remnant energy of an Odin Spell creating an entire dimension full of it's own Asgardian counterparts, and reversing the damage his evil counterpart Infinity did with a wave of his hand.

3) Were the canisters full of energy? Did we see the canisters floating and glowing around Galactus at the time of the feat? It might be speculation but it sure as hell is less likely that he let all of that energy go to waste instead of restoring his strength to at least some point. 3 Galaxies? You just said 3 Star Systems. There's a big difference between the two.

1) My pleasure:

It encompassed three star systems and at the time of the report it was still expanding"it does not slow"

2) So it wasnt a feat he achieved alone it was in a prolonged battle with a similarly powered opponent? A severely weakened Galactus after facing down two equally powered cosmics and getting beaten and then being drained of his reserves took out three star systems in an outburst of power that at the time of reporting was still expanding.

3) Apologies, sleep deprivation. It was 3 star systems. However it was him alone, in a very weakened state and in a single outburst of power as opposed to two opponents in a prolonged battle over an undisclosed(whether by you or by the comic i dont know) period of time. Furthermore who is to say who was responsible for the lionshare of the environmental damage when theres two opponents? Going back to the rejuvenation point thats supposition. Find an on panel statement verifying your interpretation or we'll leave it at that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

2. I'm on the fence about whether the Star Systems were obliterated completely or if it was limited mostly to Annihilus' fleets. Any further evidence about this would sway my opinion to one side or the other most likely.

Swaying your opinion in light of what is clearly stated on panel isnt necessary.

The blast encompassed three star systems. Its as simple as that. 😉

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
2. I'm on the fence about whether the Star Systems were obliterated completely or if it was limited mostly to Annihilus' fleets. Any further evidence about this would sway my opinion to one side or the other most likely.

I'd assume some planets that had only Annihilus' troops as their occupants were destroyed. Maybe even an entire System or two, but I believe the wave was mostly a cleansing of the Annihilation wave instead of an actual destruction of a Galaxy.

Also, it showed him wiping out a Watcher/planet... so, it wasn't limited to just Annihilation Wave.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
1) My pleasure:

It encompassed three star systems and at the time of the report it was still expanding"it does not slow"

I'm assuming the blast encompassed the entire Galaxy as stated by Thanos.

I however am not sure if it actually destroyed 3 Star Systems. Not that it would matter much.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
2) So it wasnt a feat he achieved alone it was in a prolonged battle with a similarly powered opponent? A severely weakened Galactus after facing down two equally powered cosmics and getting beaten and then being drained of his reserves took out three star systems in an outburst of power that at the time of reporting was still expanding.

The very first blast they traded caused shockwaves that rippled throughout the planes of reality.

http://img50.imageshack.us/i/sethvsweakenedodin19ht.jpg/
http://img50.imageshack.us/f/sethvsweakenedodin26rj.jpg/
Thanks to Evolve.

Here's a link to the entire fight:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t443095.html

They were operating on that scale from the get go. Don't use that bullshit ZopZop tried.

It being a battle between peers detracts from it but Odin should have provided about half the power for those feats and multiple Galaxies were destroyed.

Galactus being severely drained and weakened is in doubt.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
3) Apologies, sleep deprivation. It was 3 star systems. However it was him alone, in a very weakened state and in a single outburst of power as opposed to two opponents in a prolonged battle over an undisclosed(whether by you or by the comic i dont know) period of time. Furthermore who is to say who was responsible for the lionshare of the environmental damage when theres two opponents? Going back to the rejuvenation point thats supposition. Find an on panel statement verifying your interpretation or we'll leave it at that.

Once again, Galactus being severely drained and weakened is in doubt as it's possible -likely actually- that he absorbed the energy in those canisters or at least used them to rejuvenate himself at least up to a point.

Lulz. Odin was at least Seth's peer. I'd say the destruction caused was 50/50.

The battle couldn't have lasted more than a handful of hours and that's me overdoing it quite heavily in my opinion. It lasted like 11 pages maybe and nothing would indicate a long period of time passed throughout the panels. It seemed to be a steady and linear passing of time.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Wouldn't this be a better feat as it's a focused wave of destruction?

Also, it showed him wiping out a Watcher/planet... so, it wasn't limited to just Annihilation Wave.

What?

I see what you're referring to. I thought the panel after the wise men were Annihilation troops as most of the innocents and good guys seemed to have survived. I guess some innocents were destroyed but I'd still argue it was focused mostly on the Annihilation Wave.

I think SR J-bieb is pointing out that arguably Galactus feat is better because it's a feat accomplished by him alone without assistance from a outside source, in a weakened stat.

and ofcause you can argue for it being focused on the Annihilation Wave, since they was the ones that had, in Galactus optics, violated him, however the blast unleashed by Galactus also toke out pretty much everything else in his desire to destroy the annihilation wave.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
The preview cuts off at Zeus breaking out of the chains.

Scan your early copy.

We see Zeus rock Galactus with a blast then Galactus blast Zeus and Zeus gets right back up Then B ig G says no skyfather could take that kind of blast however but that is were we are left until that next issue it should be a good one

it doesnt come out untill next month though

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They were operating on that scale from the get go. Don't use that bullshit ZopZop tried.

What bullxxxx? The fact that nothing was shown on panel being destroyed or rocked? The fact that the only beings even aware of the fight were on Earth or in it's immediate vicinity (Strange, Jean Grey, Surfer). The fact that not one cosmic entity acknowledged or commented on the throw down?

Which of the above is bullxxxx?

Originally posted by zopzop
What bullxxxx? The fact that nothing was shown on panel being destroyed or rocked? The fact that the only beings even aware of the fight were on Earth or in it's immediate vicinity (Strange, Jean Grey, Surfer). The fact that not one cosmic entity acknowledged or commented on the throw down?

Which of the above is bullxxxx?

The fact that the narration stated it is all that is needed when the narration states what happens it is taken as a FACT not hyperbole. This is how the forum works and is cannon. If you don't like it is just tough. Bring a MOD in and he will explain the Rules. If you don't wnat to go be a cannon source and dismiss a feat it is in fact a big flaming pile of shit

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The fact that the narration stated it is all that is needed when the narration states what happens it is taken as a FACT not hyperbole. This is how the forum works and is cannon. If you don't like it is just tough. Bring a MOD in and he will explain the Rules. If you don't wnat to go be a cannon source and dismiss a feat it is in fact a big flaming pile of shit

No it's not a steaming pile of xxxx, that's what you are peddling.

If it really was mutliverse shaking and threatened all of reality (like Jean said) where was the Tribunal? Isn't it his job to monitor threats to the greater multiverse?

Where was the Watcher? If the IG affair warranted his notice and it only affected a single universe, where was he for this multiverse shaking event?

Why were the only beings that mention it : Jean Grey, Dr. Strange and the Surfer all earth bound and all herald level and lower?

Where was the on panel evidence of the destruction being wrought?

Is there really "no power in the universe" that's a match for Seth, except for Odin?

galactus was said to have enough power to destroy the universe 10 times over by a writer once

do you consider these guys cube being level

umar, aegis, post beyonder and molecule man , franklin richards

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
do you consider these guys cube being level

umar, aegis, post beyonder and molecule man , franklin richards

IMHO :

Umar - No

Post Beyonder and Molecule Man - Way too confusing to call, they have been retconned so many times it's ridiculous

Aegis - Yes (I consider her and Teneberous equal to Galactus and I consider Galactus > Cube Being), she's even beyond a Cube Being.

Franklin Richards - Full potential? Yes, he's probably Celestial level and hence he's beyond a Cube Being.