Kratos VS Akuma and Gouken
Kratos gets his blades, the golden fleece, typhons bane, rage of sparta, and nothing else.
VS
Akuma and Gouken
Fight takes place in a circular jungle, 10 miles in diameter. if one of the guys on team two loses, their partner may continue to fight. First entire team to die, loses.
Isn't Rage of Sparta little more than Kratos just getting really pissed off (a bit redundant, I know) while using the Blade of Olympus? Going by the functions, he is virutually invulnerable (even if you get turned to stone for example, you break out immediately), and the only other time that happened in GoWIII is when he rediscovered Hope. I'm not saying that I think that's putting two and two together, since there wasn't really any kind of foreshadowing to something like that in the story (whereas it could be argued that Hope was a subject since the beginning of the series).
That, and Rage of Sparta by gameplay standards is used with only the Blade of Olympus.
Originally posted by Sappho
Kratos gets his blades, the golden fleece, typhons bane, rage of sparta, and nothing else.VS
Akuma and Gouken
Fight takes place in a circular jungle, 10 miles in diameter. if one of the guys on team two loses, their partner may continue to fight. First entire team to die, loses.
By giving Kratos the RoS, you've given him the Blade of Olympus as well, along with increased durability/tanking and speed.
He uses the BoO to one-shot them.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Isn't Rage of Sparta little more than Kratos just getting really pissed off (a bit redundant, I know) while using the Blade of Olympus? Going by the functions, he is virutually invulnerable (even if you get turned to stone for example, you break out immediately), and the only other time that happened in GoWIII is when he rediscovered Hope.
He still takes damage, albeit at a lower rate. The 'invulnerability' comes from his ability to just walk through attacks that would normally stun him.
^I thought that was already the idea behind this fight; 2 against 1 at the same time.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Kratos still probably wins.Is faster in reaction-time at the very least, is a GREAT deal stronger and more durable, and... Well really that is all that matters to be honest. Kratos ftw.
Didn't you say that they had leveled a mountain with their Hadoukens? I mean yeah, that doesn't necessarily speak strictly for their physical strength and all (I've also always been on the assumption that sinking that island had something to do with like, ki energy amping up the strike as opposed to just raw strength).
But yeah, I'd say some scenes in GoS add plenty more to Kratos' potential for tanking feats (SPOILERS): He was blown out of an erupting volcano and was unscathed after crashing into a city miles away, sucked into a giant whirlpool made by a pissed off Poseidon, came back from a pretty serious beating at the hands of Deimos (who was more or less as strong as him, but apparently less durable), and took a lot of punishment from Thanatos near the end of the fight until being saved by Deimos, who ended up getting killed in half the time from the same kind of punishement (which pissed Kratos off to the limit, with his Thera's Bane power-up amping him to a nearly invulnerable state in which he sodomized Thanatos).
Originally posted by BloodRawEngineDo not want spoilers, only answering this.
Didn't you say that they had leveled a mountain with their Hadoukens? I mean yeah, that doesn't necessarily speak strictly for their physical strength and all (I've also always been on the assumption that sinking that island had something to do with like, ki energy amping up the strike as opposed to just raw strength)
Kratos physically matched and even overpowered Hercules, who in the GoW canon did what Altas did, held up the world. That alone puts his physical power beyond even their ki amped power.
Originally posted by Sappho
for the sake of the thread, no blade of olympus. for rage of sparta, i just meant the feats that come with it.
He has never had to use it in cutscenes whatsoever though.
It has no feats unless you count gameplay.
Also, why Typhon's Bane instead of Apollo's Bow? Typhon's Bane is pretty lame.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
^ Wasn't the mountain busting thing in the manga only? Or is the manga canon?
Not canon, but was made by Masahiko Nakahiro. He's made MANY SF mangas and they have been so good, Capcom implements his ideas in actual canon. He has a very close relationship to Capcom and mainly SF.
Masahiko Nakahiro is responsible for...
-He invented Karin Kanzuki and her entire backstory.
-He invented the Dark Hadou, which forced Capcom to retcon the end of SFI to implement his idea.
-He invented Evil Ryu
-The whole boulder thing that Ryu lifts in 3S was invented by Nakahiro.
-Ryu's focus attack, a.k.a Fists of Wind.
-Akuma's ROFLcopter (his ultra 2)
-Lots of other stuff.
One thing I wanna know, how the hell is Kratos gonna kill Gouken? We are aware that Gouken's immortality is on Jedah level. "The Power of Nothingness" makes him unkillable. Vaporizing his body won't work. Sending his soul to hell...wont work and I aint talkin' about no greek hell (Hades), I'm talkin' about Hell-Hell.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
He has never had to use it in cutscenes whatsoever though.It has no feats unless you count gameplay.
Also, why Typhon's Bane instead of Apollo's Bow? Typhon's Bane is pretty lame.
and typhons bane STOMPS the bow, easily.
also, the blades of exile, but kratos wont get to use that magic for this fight.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
bow of apollo nevah runs out and shoots far faster however.Also, which blades does Kratos get Sappho? Blades of Athena or Blades of Exile?
Blades of Athena can do that supah awesome tornado magic, while Exile has the ghostly spartan shield/spear barrier with a magic shower of arrows.
It's pretty much the same speed actually (after the upgrade for Typhon's Bane). And for all intents and purposes, Kratos ever actually running out of magic or even whatever the hell limits his fire arrows, Helios' head or Hermes' boots, is al more or less gameplay restrictions (not counting the secrets that give infinite use of them). There's really alot of that in gameplay when talking about Kratos' capabilities (not including most of the QTE scenes).
Strictly speaking btw, that "Supah awsome tornado magic" (it's called Divine Reckoning btw), if you look closely enough, is actually done with the Blade of Olympus by driving it into the ground. It's kinda like a smaller scale version of what Zeus did during the Great War. He technically doesn't need the Blades of Athena for it, just the Blade of Olympus.
On the other hand there is no reason to assume they don't run out when they are assigned a limit in the first place. Kratos has had plenty of abilities over the course of his games that don't run out and simply recharge on their own, so there is a clear intent shown that some of his magic abilities are effectively inexhaustible, (minus a downtime), and some need to be replenished, (or at least require a more significant charge time than showable in gameplay limits)
And cool stuff, never noticed him using the BoO during that maneuver.