Originally posted by NephthysNeville was still standing as the death eater passed completely through him and out the other side.
Good lord, a-are you ****ing blind or something? Intangible? What the ****! Did you not see them punting the kids around like they were in a effing hurricane? Are you seriously that dense? I mean, wtf?!!!
Intangible.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How so?Vader attacks with his lightsaber first, that's his style.
Snape attacks with spells.
It's actually how the fight would go down, in all likelihood.
If we're going to play this angle, then Snape would logically attack with the Death Spell first, as they're trying to kill each other; it wouldn't turn out well for Snape.
Vader would sense it before it happens, he could easily dodge it or block and counter. Dead wizard.
Originally posted by RobtardHey, Rob, what happend to Vader's arms and legs? Why did he end up in an armored suit?
FFS, Vader will not have to block anything, he would get to attack FIRST, wizard will be flying back after being hit with a tremendous level of pressure. Force-speed as in the ability to react fast.
Ah, so now you gimp Vader and insist that Force-precognition and his Force enhanced reaction-time only affect his sabre skills. Cos.No, I am simply saying that Vader never cast force attacks with uber speed.
Again, Force-precognition, which part of this don't you get? Vader will be ready and using Force-push before the spell goes off. At worse, they go off at the same time and they both get ****ed.And he'll hit nothing but air as Snape apparates away.
Precog is flawed in the sense that it can get overwhelmed (we already covered this, how you ignore), but not by one opponent with human-levels of speed against a Force-user as powerful as Vader.Overwhelmed? Aahahahahaha bullshit. Vader was standing there, stock still, leapt, and had his legs removed.
Vader was fighting a very powerful Jedi(with similar powers) and it was implied that he let his rage override his common seneses. Basic SW knowledge, dude. So you soundly [b]FAIL there. [/B]Obi Wan would have his ass handed to him by Snape or any other trained wizard.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How so?Vader attacks with his lightsaber first, that's his style.
Snape attacks with spells.
It's actually how the fight would go down, in all likelihood.
You're trying to argue based on how a character acts in battle in their movies, while arguing (and have argued for years) that wizards will be popping around the room like Nightcrawler even though they have NEVER done so and NEVER shown the competence to be able to. It just....boggles the mind.
Originally posted by Robtard
If we're going to play this angle, then Snape would logically attack with the Death Spell first, as they're trying to kill each other; it wouldn't turn out well for Snape.Vader would sense it before it happens, he could easily dodge it or block and counter. Dead wizard.
No, in all likelihood, Snape would open up with sectumsempra, his signature spell. Less than a second, dude.
Originally posted by NephthysNo, I gave up the rapid fire apparating argument long ago, Robtard proved me wrong there.
You're trying to argue based on how a character acts in battle in their movies, while arguing (and have argued for years) that wizards will be popping around the room like Nightcrawler even though they have NEVER done so and NEVER shown the competence to be able to. It just....boggles the mind.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, Rob, what happend to Vader's arms and legs? Why did he end up in an armored suit?No, I am simply saying that Vader never cast force attacks with uber speed.
And he'll hit nothing but air as Snape apparates away.
Overwhelmed? Aahahahahaha bullshit. Vader was standing there, stock still, leapt, and had his legs removed.
Obi Wan would have his ass handed to him by Snape or any other trained wizard.
You're really going to lower yourself just to try any angle that has your precious winning? Really, dude?
Obi Won = Similar to Vader in powers, so Precog, reaction-time etc is basically canceled out for each.
Vader lost his temper and it's why he choose to make the leap in anger, despite being told and knowing better. Anger/Rage is why he lost, ie plot-line.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, in all likelihood, Snape would open up with sectumsempra, his signature spell. Less than a second, dude.
K, so Vader senses the attack before it happens, but is unable to block it, he gets slashed up(he's been in battle for years) and then counters with the Force, as he's not an idiot and wouldn't continue to charge with a sabre against an opponent with strong ranged weapons.
Conclusions, Vader is left bleeding badly, Snape is dead.
Though this is not how it works in here generally, you're bringing up the "Vader would use his lightsabre" as some angle to win and you're ignoring the "basic knowledge of each other" rule.
Originally posted by RobtardSure, whatever you say. Here's your answer:
You're really going to lower yourself just to try any angle that has your precious winning? Really, dude?
Vader lost his legs and ended up in the suit because his precog failed. Just like it failed Yoda when Sidious force slammed his ass into the wall. Just like it failed Sidious when Yoda got back up. Just like it failed more times than I can count.
Obi Won = Similar to Vader in powers, so Precog, reaction-time etc is basically canceled out for each.Um, no. Vader was more powerful, he fought like an idiot. Plus Obi Wan trained him and knew all his moves.
Vader lost his temper and it's why he choose to make the leap in anger, despite being told and knowing better. Anger/Rage is why he lost, ie plot-line.But somehow he'll be the ****ing Fonz here? Right.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, whatever you say. Here's your answer:Vader lost his legs and ended up in the suit because his precog failed. Just like it failed Yoda when Sidious force slammed his ass into the wall. Just like it failed Sidious when Yoda got back up. Just like it failed more times than I can count.
Um, no. Vader was more powerful, he fought like an idiot. Plus Obi Wan trained him and knew all his moves.
But somehow he'll be the ****ing Fonz here? Right.
BECAUSE OBI, SIDIOUS AND OTHER JEDI/SITH HAVE FORCE-PRECOGNITION TOO. WHICH PART OF THIS CAN'T YOU GRASP?
So now Vader is angry at Snape because Snape never believed in him and is emotionally unstable in this fight? LoLz, dude. Any angle for a win, right?
Originally posted by Robtardcrylaugh No, dude, sectumsempra will **** Vader up bad. He won't stand there and lulz about it.
K, so Vader senses the attack before it happens, but is unable to block it, he gets slashed up(he's been in battle for years) and then counters with the Force, as he's not an idiot and wouldn't continue to charge with a sabre against an opponent with strong ranged weapons.
[Conclusions, Vader is left bleeding badly, Snape is dead.[/b]Only way he kills Snape is with a saber blow, not gonna happen.
Though this is not how it works in here generally, you're bringing up the "Vader would use his lightsabre" as some angle to win and you're ignoring the "basic knowledge of each other" rule.Hey, I'm just pointing out how dude approaches fights. There's a pattern there.
Originally posted by RobtardOh boy, lookit who's gettin' busy!!!
[B]BECAUSE OBI, SIDIOUS AND OTHER JEDI/SITH HAVE FORCE-PRECOGNITION TOO.WHICH PART OF THIS CAN'T YOU GRASP?
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Does Han Solo have precog? Does the fat ass who shot Luke in the hand have precog? Does Boba Fett have precog? Does Jabba have precog?
Thought not.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
crylaugh No, dude, sectumsempra will **** Vader up bad. He won't stand there and lulz about it.Only way he kills Snape is with a saber blow, not gonna happen.
Hey, I'm just pointing out how dude approaches fights. There's a pattern there.
Show me where one segmatorium ****ed someone up bad where they couldn't counter?
Death blow sure, Force-pushing his ass hard a couple of times will leave him useless and praying for the sabre.
Hey, you only do it when all your other angles have failed. It's not something you start with.
Originally posted by RobtardUh, in the vid I just posted.
Show me where one segmatorium ****ed someone up bad where they couldn't counter?
Death blow sure, Force-pushing his ass hard a couple of times will leave him useless and praying for the sabre.Nah, Snape casts sectumsempra just as fast.
Hey, you only do it when all your other angles have failed. It's not something you start with.No, you!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Oh boy, lookit who's gettin' busy!!!Does Han Solo have precog? Does the fat ass who shot Luke in the hand have precog? Does Boba Fett have precog? Does Jabba have precog?
Thought not.
Show me where Vader's precog failed him when fighting one non-force using opponent? Go.
I do recall in ESB Vader casually blocking Han's blaster bolts.