RoTS Vader vs Half-Blood Prince

Started by Robtard16 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Uh, in the vid I just posted.

Nah, Snape casts sectumsempra just as fast.

No, you!!!!!!!!

Vader's been in battle for years and he has the scars to prove it, he's not some prepubescent spoiled rich kid, kid.

Cept Precog and better reaction-time.

Joke, but it's true, as you're bringing up this angle now, after 8 pages of your angles failing. Why not in the beginning? Hmmm.

Originally posted by Robtard
Vader's been in battle for years and he has the scars to prove it, he's not some prepubescent spoiled rich kid, kid.
Snape fought in the first wizarding war, you know.

Basically what we have here it this: You think Vader is faster and will attack first, while I think the same about Snape, right?

Originally posted by Robtard

Cept Precog and better reaction-time.

Joke, but it's true, as you're bringing up this angle now, after 8 pages of your angles failing. Why not in the beginning? Hmmm.

Apparating>>>>>>>>>>>Any force powers you can name. The ability to be anywhere and everywhere at anytime, dude. AND Snape can kill instantly, Vader cannot, not with force powers.

Just realized it.

Vader is faster and has Force-precognition, these are facts.

In a standard Vs fight without you adding prep to the wizard and/or which attacks will happen first, the faster opponent would win, as they both can kill or **** each other up easily.

If this is Vader vs Snape when he was the Half Blood Prince... then Snape wouldn't even know the killing curse yet... Vader would ****ing slaughter him. Or I should say Anakin. Since there was literally only like 30 minutes of Vader in Revenge of the Sith.

Originally posted by Robtard
Vader is faster and has Force-precognition, these are facts.

In a standard Vs fight without you adding prep to the wizard and/or which attacks will happen first, the faster opponent would win, as they both can kill or **** each other up easily.

Snape casting spells vs. Vader casting force attacks= Close to equal. Your opinion means shit on this, the vids I posted>>>>>>>>>>Both of our opinions.

I added prep? It's not my thread.

If Vader encounters Snape on the street and decides to kill him, and Snape is unaware, then yeah, Snape likely dies.

In a dueling scenario, on even ground, Snape wins 9.9/10.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Apparating>>>>>>>>>>>Any force powers you can name. The ability to be anywhere and everywhere at anytime, dude. AND Snape can kill instantly, Vader cannot, not with force powers.

Just realized it.

So Snape can go to Paris, how does this make him win? When he decides to come back to the fight after molesting a young Parisian boy, Vader will sense it right before it happens and Force-push him so hard the boy-pubes will spit out of his mouth.

But really, applying a lot Force around to his throat and in a very fast manner will just snap his neck. If Snape can just "apparate" anywhere cos it's a wizard power, then that power for Vader is just basic application of the Force.

Originally posted by Kaibs
If this is Vader vs Snape when he was the Half Blood Prince... then Snape wouldn't even know the killing curse yet... Vader would ****ing slaughter him. Or I should say Anakin. Since there was literally only like 30 minutes of Vader in Revenge of the Sith.
facepalm Snape killed Dumbledore with the curse in The Half Blood Prince.

YouTube video

Look RJ, do me a favor. Stand up and get to an isolated part of the room. Now, as quickly as you can, take a sidestep to the right or left, it doesn't matter which. Better yet, just twist you body out of teh way of an invisible arrow.

Doing it? Ok.

Took less that a second right? Now imagine that it isn't your pasty forum posting ass doing that. Imagine that its a battle-hardened war veteran, a man in the peak of health and physical fitness, with the best physical training the universe has to offer, on top of precognition, force-assisted reflexes and Force speed doing that dodge.

Now. with that in mind try and tell me Snape has a hope in hell of hitting him with a ****ing Sectumsempra.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Snape casting spells vs. Vader casting force attacks= Close to equal. Your opinion means shit on this, the vids I posted>>>>>>>>>>Both of our opinions.

I added prep? It's not my thread.

If Vader encounters Snape on the street and decides to kill him, and Snape is unaware, then yeah, Snape likely dies.

In a dueling scenario, on even ground, Snape wins 9.9/10.

See: Force-precog

Yes, when you insisted that Snape will be ready with a spell before the fight starts, while implying that Vader wouldn't be ready and would be doing whatever you imagine.

Na, you're wrong; it's been shown.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Snape can go to Paris, how does this make him win? When he decides to come back to the fight after molesting a young Parisian boy, Vader will sense it right before it happens and Force-push him so hard the buy-pubes will spit out of his mouth.

But really, applying a lot Force around to his throat and in a very fast manner will just snap his neck. If Snape can just "apparate" anywhere cos it's a wizard power, then that power for Vader is just basic application of the Force.

The ability to be 20 feet in front of Vader, then 30 feet behind him, then 100 feet in the air above him, flying around, THAT is something no Jedi can match or deal with. If Snape is caught in a pull or push, he simply apparates away.

High end feats, dude. It takes time to force choke someone into submission. AND Vader never snapped a neck with it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Look RJ, do me a favor. Stand up and get to an isolated part of the room. Now, as quickly as you can, take a sidestep to the right or left, it doesn't matter which. Better yet, just twist you body out of teh way of an invisible arrow.

Doing it? Ok.

Took less that a second right? Now imagine that it isn't your pasty forum posting ass doing that. Imagine that its a battle-hardened war veteran, a man in the peak of health and physical fitness, with the best physical training the universe has to offer, on top of precognition, force-assisted reflexes and Force speed doing that dodge.

Now. with that in mind try and tell me Snape has a hope in hell of hitting him with a ****ing Sectumsempra.

K!!!!!!!!! The vids I posted prove you wrong.

The training and precog didn;t keep Vader from becoming Bpxing Helena. Nor did it help the Jedi survive order 66.

Originally posted by Robtard
See: Force-precog

Yes, when you insisted that Snape will be ready with a spell before the fight starts, while implying that Vader wouldn't be ready and would be doing whatever you imagine.

Na, you're wrong; it's been shown.

I am implying that they will both be ready, will both have attacks in mind. Snape can attack with spells just as fast as Vader can. The deal breaker is that Snape's are far more powerful.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K!!!!!!!!! The vids I posted prove you wrong.

The training and precog didn;t keep Vader from becoming Bpxing Helena. Nor did it help the Jedi survive order 66.

No they don't. If so post the vids and point to me how they make Sectumsempra undodgable.

facepalm You can't dodge in midair genius. Order 66 was a special case. The Jedi were dealing with the beings they had fought besides, beings who had given their lives for them turning on them in the space of a few seconds, while feeling the deaths of every single jedi in the galaxy at the same time going through the exact same thing. On top of that they were mostly dealing with multiple blaster wielding opponents, not a single 40-yr old teacher.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The ability to be 20 feet in front of Vader, then 30 feet behind him, then 100 feet in the air above him, flying around, THAT is something no Jedi can match or deal with. If Snape is caught in a pull or push, he simply apparates away.

High end feats, dude. It takes time to force choke someone into submission. AND Vader never snapped a neck with it.

Snape isn't Nightcrawler, dude(both played by guys named Alan though). Force-push will knock the shit out of him; he'll need time to recover. Be dead by then.

Again, you're literally giving Snape the ability to teleport like Nightcrawler, yet Vader applying the Force around someone's neck with great pressure and speed is somehow beyond reason. You lack all objectivity, son.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am implying that they will both be ready, will both have attacks in mind. Snape can attack with spells just as fast as Vader can. The deal breaker is that Snape's are far more powerful.

You're saying that despite Vader's Force-precog and Force-enhanced reaction-time and reflexes, a regular human is his equal in terms of speed. K; in that case, Snape should be able to block multiple blaster bolts, with ease.

(in reality, you failed)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
facepalm Snape killed Dumbledore with the curse in The Half Blood Prince.

YouTube video

When he was known as THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE he was at Hogwartz as a student. If it's Snape FROM THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE. THe title needs to be changed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No they don't. If so post the vids and point to me how they make Sectumsempra undodgable.
The part where the spell hits Draco almost instantly. You keep questioning that, that's not gonna change it.

facepalm You can't dodge in midair genius. Order 66 was a special case. The Jedi were dealing with the beings they had fought besides, beings who had given their lives for them turning on them in the space of a few seconds, while feeling the deaths of every single jedi in the galaxy at the same time going through the exact same thing. On top of that they were mostly dealing with multiple blaster wielding opponents, not a single 40-yr old teacher.

You can BLOCK in midair ✅

A 40 year old teacher who can teleport anywhere he wants, whenever he wants, and can kill you with a thought.

Originally posted by Robtard
Snape isn't Nightcrawler, dude(both played by guys named Alan though). Force-push will knock the shit out of him; he'll need time to recover. Be dead by then.
See, this is where sectumsempra trumps. Snape can cast it at least as fast as Vader can cast a force push. If they both hit at the same time, yeah, Snape wins.

Again, you're literally giving Snape the ability to teleport like Nightcrawler, yet Vader applying the Force around someone's neck with great pressure and speed is somehow beyond reason. You lack all objectivity, son.
No, actually I'm not. Apparating is, however, just as instant.

You're saying that despite Vader's Force-precog and Force-enhanced reaction-time and reflexes, a regular human is his equal in terms of speed. K; in that case, Snape should be able to block multiple blaster bolts, with ease.

(in reality, you failed)

I'm saying that precog is incredibly flawed. Let's get in to it. Rob, tell me......How does Jedi precog work? Explain to us.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How does Jedi precog work? Explain to us.
Actually anyone can answer this.

Qui Gon Gin explained it in EP:1.

'Able to see events right before they happen and react to them.' Why a little boy was the only human with reflexes fast enough to fly a Pod-Racer, why Jedi can block blaster blots.

Key word: BEFORE