Originally posted by jinzin
dammit all those throat scans expired I guess... sucks... sorry guys. 😬
You didn't have an account on imageshack then or what? I mean, it didn't happen to me.
It doesn't matter. With your credibility on this board who cares if the link works or not... you're gonna revamp the Wolverine thread anyway.
Originally posted by jinzin
DAMN! Girl's got skills huh?
Gamma trance, not skills.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
ares fared better, wolverine didnt even get a chance to try to hit her and got impaled with ares sword
Then Daken cut it in pieces... didn't even have to use the muramasa claws.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You didn't have an account on imageshack then or what? I mean, it didn't happen to me.It doesn't matter. With your credibility on this board who cares if the link works or not... you're gonna revamp the Wolverine thread anyway.
Gamma trance, not skills.
lol some here would really like to argue with you about that credability issue of mine *sits patiently waiting for one to chime in* "you guys know who you are".
Explain the gamma trance. This boy be ig'nant!
Originally posted by jinzin
😂Yeah, she totally kicked "wolverine's" ass!
Oh C you crack me up. (and after looking back at a couple of your other posts.... I get it now 😮 )
Dude, you've seen nothing yet. Some of his posts give a brain damage. Ain't kidding.
Originally posted by jinzin
lol some here would really like to argue with you about that credability issue of mine *sits patiently waiting for one to chime in* "you guys know who you are".Explain the gamma trance. This boy be ig'nant!
Who, Phantom Zone? He does that only to piss you off.
Lyra gets stronger if she stays calm and meditates. The opposite of Hulk.
Originally posted by jalek moye
All new Savage She-Hulk #4
That's not his regular sword.
Originally posted by jinzin
Ummmm.. easily? 😕By taking a retrospective look at Wolverine's entire career shrugging off blows from people as strong, stronger, or vastly stronger than Ares.
OH! And by not blowing one feat out of proportion even though it was written by Daniel Way.If any Brick keeps hitting Wolverine without him fighting back, yes he can be knocked out... That notion means next to nothing in a straight up forum fight though.
In a forum fight, you don't have to kill to win. Ares just needs to knock him out. Let's not act like he has never been knocked out before.
Better reach... sure a little bit but they're also large, akward, cumbersome weapons.
Fact is, that while they offer a reach advantage, they ALSO hinder maneauverability for something like a parry or counter. Both his axe and his beefed up broadsword are most effective with a swinging wide arc... which means if Ares misses his shot he's leaving himself open for Wolverine to get inside his guard and deliver damage before he can recover.Wolverine has lots of examples of doing just that with opponents, but the most obvious example here would be to point out Thor and his hammer swings missing Wolverine while Wolverine landed strikes.
They're not cumbersome weapons to a brick like him. Maybe for Spiderman they would be but not Ares. As for Thor, Ares' axe and sword has better reach than that hammer.
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I was going to address this above, but since you feel the need to bring up that incident again in the same post, I'll just do it here...First off.. we already know Ares has an astronomical strength advantage... no one here is arguing otherwise.
Second: No one is claiming that Wolverine will attempt to block Ares' assaults.. That's barely going to do anything but get him launched away.So I'm failing to understand what exactly you think you're doing by bringing those points up.
He's going to try and dodge Ares' sword and axe and cut at him. He's still going to have to get close to Ares and get his head pummeled in. Ares takes a damage and grabs Logan's arm and then what's Logan going to do then? Because Ares is going to repeatedly headbutt him into a knock out.
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Third:.... ARES. DID. NOT. DAZE. WOLVERINE.
At the very least, that's a notion you can't support with proof.
All we see there is Ares knock Wolverine down with a sucker punch... sorry but is that something that he shouldn't be able to do? 🤨
So what's Wolverine doing with his face down and ass up? Inspecting termites? And if he wasn't, some shots to the head by Ares axe should knock him out.
When it comes to Wolverine himself, there's no stress lines in his arms to express a struggle to get himself back up.
His thought boxes are displayed; his thoughts are not slowed, hampered or unclear.
When we see his face, he looks completely noncholant about the situation.From all appearances Logan is none the worse for wear and it's illogical to assume that a knock down is the same as dazing an opponent to set up for a KO especially when that opponent does not appear to be dazed.
He got up because Ares turned to Skarr. Ten shots to Logan's head from that axe and let's see if Wolverine would even get up.
Fourth: It's Daniel Way who had a tendancy to write Logan's healing factor and damage soak all over the place for the sake of the plot. Again, Ares being unable to register anything but a knockdown there is not a good sign for Ares.Fith: I feel at this point it's prudent to bring up Wolverine's long laundry list of tanking shots like that or better to no effect during in-fight panels. But since I don't feel like bringing up half of Logan's career it should suffice just to assure you..... He has.
lol. That's fine. I'm sure he has. He's use been put down by less too.
He was playing head games for sure, doesn't change the fact that when Ares tried to squash him, he failed.
He was messing with Ares' thought process. That's not the same as Ares' with a clear mind attacking him.
I your opinion.
Wolverine landed the first two offensive strikes when he finally had Gorgon to his lonesome.
You may be comfortable thinking that position has no value because Gorgon was assaulted before that, but given that thus far his healing factor/damage soak don't seem to mirror Wolverine's that type of plea has no credability yet.Wolverine was also missing half of his life force/soul during that encounter... He still did better.
But he DOES have one, just like he has one in this fight. Which is another obstacle Ares would be pressed to overcome.
His HF is not inconsequential, so it's fairly illogical to brush it aside.
His healing factor can only take so much when he's brain is taking repeated blows to the head.
Which does not translate to Wolverine very well for previously mentioned reasons stated multiple times now.Knockdown=/=Knockout/Daze/etc
Logan doesn't dance around everyone he fights, but that's partially because he likes to get into the thick of things head on...in other words he can when he wants to.
Is he going to do that with Ares? Dunno... Probably not.
But given the results of his fights with guys like Deathshead, Namor, Herc and Thor things don't look like Ares has some suitable advantage in this fight that makes him anything even remotely close to a sure bet.
?Namor and Hercules don't have weapons. Thor doesn't take Wolverine seriously at all and holds back. When he cuts loose Wolverine lost.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
In a forum fight, you don't have to kill to win. Ares just needs to knock him out. Let's not act like he has never been knocked out before.
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No one is.. what I'm saying is that he has a career of tanking shots as hard or harder than what Ares can dish out... It's that simple and it's a concept supported by dozens of appearances.
If you think it's within Ares' ability to knock Wolverine out in a straight fight before being cut to ribbons then please support that stance beyond your own insistance.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
They're not cumbersome weapons to a brick like him.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingThink you missed the point.
Maybe for Spiderman they would be but not Ares. As for Thor, Ares' axe and sword has better reach than that hammer.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He's going to try and dodge Ares' sword and axe and cut at him. He's still going to have to get close to Ares and get his head pummeled in. Ares takes a damage and grabs Logan's arm and then what's Logan going to do then? Because Ares is going to repeatedly headbutt him into a knock out.
Besides all that, this argument of yours is pure conjecture.
What makes it more likely that Ares will be grabbing him by the arms and tanking through his shots then pummeling him unconcious than Wolverine going full bore and cutting him to ribbons?
Because NOTHING comes to mind.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So what's Wolverine doing with his face down and ass up? Inspecting termites? And if he wasn't, some shots to the head by Ares axe should knock him out.
Well his ass wasn't exactly up. If you feel inclined to focus on that portion of the art seperate for the rest of the panel, that's fine though, none of us are here to judge. 😉
As for his face being down...he got knocked down, when you get knocked down your face is typically closer to the ground than usual.
Some shots? Sure. how many? Dunno.
Is it more likely that Ares will land multi shots to Logan's head than it is for Logan to gore him as many times?
Nope.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He got up because Ares turned to Skarr. Ten shots to Logan's head from that axe and let's see if Wolverine would even get up.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
lol. That's fine. I'm sure he has. He's use been put down by less too.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He was messing with Ares' thought process. That's not the same as Ares' with a clear mind attacking him.
It's not the same because Ares was pissed off.
You can assume that his perception and timing were thrown off, but Daken's only really effected perception, that wasn't the implication of that particular moment.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
His healing factor can only take so much when he's brain is taking repeated blows to the head.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
?Namor and Hercules don't have weapons. Thor doesn't take Wolverine seriously at all and holds back. When he cuts loose Wolverine lost.
Namor's used weapons.
Thor: "my fiercest and finest blows" yeah he was really holding back in the melee aspect of that fight. 🙄
You clearly don't get the concept. Ares doesn't have lightning bolts to rain down on Wolverine.
Originally posted by jinzinRight, Ares fighting Phobos barehanded, after geting slashed by Grasscutter... and taking Phobos down to the ground into a helpless position where he could ha easily broken his neck is not impressive as a skill feat. I know that's what you think, despite you constantly yapping it up about Wolverine's so-called skill feats... like how Wolverine gets a mentally manipulated Daredevil into a full-nelson... or how Wolverine gets his claws under Shang-Chi's throat.
Because he tanked like what.. several attacks to get a notion of what Phobos was doing.He tanked 2 more after the dodge.. I don't see what dodging a single attack is supposed to do to make me think that it's an uber skill feat.. sorry.
Going by your reasoning here, Wolverine didn't do sh1t but one or two moves. Don't see what th hoop-la is. And yet... here we are. Enough with the double-standard reasoning.
A wounded Ares took down a bloodlusted Phobos barehanded in a few moves. A fresh Gorgon required Godkiller and an extended fight. Do the math.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Right, Ares fighting Phobos barehanded, after geting slashed by Grasscutter... and taking Phobos down to the ground into a helpless position where he could ha easily broken his neck is not impressive as a skill feat. I know that's what you think, despite you constantly yapping it up about Wolverine's so-called skill feats... like how Wolverine gets a mentally manipulated Daredevil into a full-nelson... or how Wolverine gets his claws under Shang-Chi's throat.Going by your reasoning here, Wolverine didn't do sh1t but one or two moves. Don't see what th hoop-la is. And yet... here we are. Enough with the double-standard reasoning.
A wounded Ares took down a bloodlusted Phobos barehanded in a few moves. A fresh Gorgon required Godkiller and an extended fight. Do the math.
I didn't say it wasn't a skill feat, stop being a douche.
It's obviously a feat of skill to some degree, simply not the degree that some are trying to equivocate it to in this discussion.
The math is skewed because Ares was able to establish an advantage over Phobos due to weaknesses/circumstances that wouldn't apply here.
Again, no one said it isn't a skill feat, just not an uber one that equivocates him to Gorgon by association.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan👆
What is this suppose to prove? Or do you just enjoy posting irrelevant scans? I have a scan of wolverine beating the shit out of abomination with bone claws......should I post it? since it seems you enjoy looking at/posting irrelevent images.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C😆
its skill
