Ok... 1st I want to ask... how good is ares healing factor? I am asking for a reason because wolverine have a bad habit of going for the eyes first and if this happens to ares and he doesn't heal IMMEDIATELY, he is getting killed.
How fast is ares? Is he "wolverine/spiderman" fast because if not I can see this turning out like wolverine and the rulk fight. Getting his eyes clawed and fearing for his life.
Please answer these questions and provide scans proving this because if he doesn't meet any of these qualifications, I'm giving wolvy 8/10.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok... 1st I want to ask... how good is ares healing factor? I am asking for a reason because wolverine have a bad habit of going for the eyes first and if this happens to ares and he doesn't heal IMMEDIATELY, he is getting killed.
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Here Ares lights himself on fire and has hercules hurl him right in the middle of an opposing army.
Heals From a Large Nuke Explosion
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Heals From getting his brain blown out
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Does it Again in different issue
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Speed
One-shots Hawkeye.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Heals From a Large Nuke Explosion
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/3868/prv3868_pg3.jpg
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big CHeals From getting his brain blown out
http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/New-Avengers-058-pg-14.jpgDoes it Again in different issue
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/AresDurability01.jpg
No, he simply gets shot in the chest, and actaully hurts your arguement, because if those bullets can hurt him, how he gunna fair against adamatium claws?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganhe has scans of him being bullet proof, but also he drawd out his gun and shot the polices officers index fingers off before they could even react
never penetrated his head.No, he simply gets shot in the chest, and actaully hurts your arguement, because if those bullets can hurt him, how he gunna fair against adamatium claws?
speed, skill and percision feat
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he has scans of him being bullet proof, but also he drawd out his gun and shot the polices officers index fingers off before they could even reactspeed, skill and percision feat
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganno.
You trying to make it sound much more impressive then it is. He got shot, taken down by hand gun firer, was getting back up which suprised the cops, who hstopped fireing and then he attacked them. All it shows is that he skilled with a hand gun, can be taken down by piercing attacks for a KO and that he posses a healing factor. what on earth would have made you posts this scan? if anything it hurts your arguement more then helps, it something I should have post not you............
they was ready to start shooting at him but then he shot there index fingers off before they could even react, show me a scan of wolverine with that kind of percision
read the last panel on the left, the only reason he fell down was because of shock, he stopped being the god of war for years before that and he forgot what pain was. it also shows his healing factor, one panel he has blood all over the next panel he is just fine, he healed from all those wounds in 1 single panel
Originally posted by jinzinSkewed? What weaknesses/circumstances exactly are you trying to project here to diminish that Ares curbstomped Phobos whereas Gorgon didn't?
I didn't say it wasn't a skill feat, stop being a douche.It's obviously a feat of skill to some degree, simply not the degree that some are trying to equivocate it to in this discussion.
The math is skewed because Ares was able to establish an advantage over Phobos due to weaknesses/circumstances that wouldn't apply here.
Again, no one said it isn't a skill feat, just not an uber one that equivocates him to Gorgon by association.
That Ares was barehanded and Gorgon had Godkiller? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares was wounded by Grasscutter beforehand and Gorgon was fresh? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares put him down quickly whereas Gorgon took half a comic to do it? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares managed it so quickly that he apparently had enough time to lecture Phobos on Phobos' own skill? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Phobos was just as much, if not more, bloodlusted against Ares, than he was against Gorgon? No wait... that doesn't change anything.
No need to associate Ares with Gorgon to figure out if Ares beats Wolverine (though we both know that Gorgon would kick the crap out of Wolverine). We can simply look at how he fights immortal Hercules, Voidtry, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Skaar and his rather ignominious curbstomps of Hawkeye, Phobos and Wolverine himself, among other things.
He's the God of War. No math necessary.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Skewed? What weaknesses/circumstances exactly are you trying to project here to diminish that Ares curbstomped Phobos whereas Gorgon didn't?That Ares was barehanded and Gorgon had Godkiller? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares was wounded by Grasscutter beforehand and Gorgon was fresh? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares put him down quickly whereas Gorgon took half a comic to do it? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Ares managed it so quickly that he apparently had enough time to lecture Phobos on Phobos' own skill? No, wait... that skews it more in Ares' favor.
That Phobos was just as much, if not more, bloodlusted against Ares, than he was against Gorgon? No wait... that doesn't change anything.
No need to associate Ares with Gorgon to figure out if Ares beats Wolverine (though we both know that Gorgon would kick the crap out of Wolverine). We can simply look at how he fights immortal Hercules, Voidtry, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Skaar and his rather ignominious curbstomps of Hawkeye, Phobos and Wolverine himself, among other things.
He's the God of War. No math necessary.
Gorgon killed Phobos. 😐
You can continue to argue thinking that Ares feat was more impressive, but it wasn't due to skill which was the point. I could show you Hulk snatching Spiderman out of the air and smashing him after taking a flurry of attacks, but it's not a skill feat by any means. He straight up tanked some shots and overpowered Phobos, what's supposed to impress me or anyone else about that in concerns to skill?
That example isn't analogous with the Wolverine/DD crap you brought up for a number of reasons (all seemingly so obvious I shouldn't even need to address them).
It IS a lot like Black Panther vs. Sabretooth though... Almost exactly like it tbh and I wouldn't for one second say that Sabretooth having Panther by the throat was some uber skilled accomplishment... because it wasn't. Ares doing the same with Phobos shouldn't be treated differently just because it's the only feat he has that even HINTS he would be able to deal with the skill level of a top tier opponent... "because he's skilled"..
The circumstances that allow for Ares to do that to Phobos reside in his lack of damage soak, retalitory response etc.
Ares could not replicate that feat on Wolverine. It doesn't translate well and it's a waste of time to bring up in this thread attempting to equivocate his skill with Gorgons.
Uhhh yeah, he didn't curb Wolverine, but keep drinking the coolaid I guess.
I'm not sure what you think bringing up an irrelivent laundry list of characters that Ares has fought proves exactly, especially when half of those examples only show Ares either getting stomped, teaming up or fighting like a typical brick but cool.... As if you think I couldn't do that for Wolverine? Yeah, we both know Wolverine's will be longer and more impressive...
I'll spare you the waste of time.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no.they was ready to start shooting at him but then[b] he shot there index fingers off before they could even react
, show me a scan of wolverine with that kind of percision
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No they clearly had stoped firing and he caught them by surprise. That not impressive speed feat at all.
Are you serously trying to say that Ares is more percise then wolverine? 😆
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/Skill/X-Force_Aint_No_Dog_001.jpg
Originally posted by jinzinYeah. With a sword called Godkiller. Irony is spelled I.R.O.N.Y. Ares would have snapped his neck had Alex not spoken words which paralleled his childhood. Did you not read the fight?
Gorgon killed Phobos.
Originally posted by jinzinOnce again, ignoring that Ares actually telegraphed Phobos' attacks and continued to show him exactly that his method of attacking was completely inadequate from a tactical and skill point of view. That fight wasn't analogical to HulkvsSpidey at all.
You can continue to argue thinking that Ares feat was more impressive, but it wasn't due to skill which was the point. I could show you Hulk snatching Spiderman out of the air and smashing him after taking a flurry of attacks, but it's not a skill feat by any means.
Originally posted by jinzinAres would do worse to Wolverine. He already has. On-panel.
The circumstances that allow for Ares to do that to Phobos reside in his lack of damage soak, retalitory response etc.
Ares could not replicate that feat on Wolverine. It doesn't translate well and it's a waste of time to bring up in this thread attempting to equivocate his skill with Gorgons.Uhhh yeah, he didn't curb Wolverine, but keep drinking the coolaid I guess.
Again, unfortunate you didn't like how their encounter was portrayed. It still happened.
Originally posted by jinzinSorry, but all those examples where Ares lost? Who did he lose to again among that list? Voidtry (who anally raped Wolverine rather ignominously)? I'm sorry Wolverine didn't put up anything that resembled a fight agaist him. Immortal Hercules (who would utterly rape-stomp Wolverine)? I'm sorry the best you have is having a table bring chucked at him or a mortal Hercules losing off-panel. Ares beat or matched the rest of that "laundry list." And when you stack how Wolverine has fared (or would fare) against the rest of those foes, you'll start realizing the level Ares operates on. Above Wolverine's.
I'm not sure what you think bringing up an irrelivent laundry list of characters that Ares has fought proves exactly, especially when half of those examples only show Ares either getting stomped, teaming up or fighting like a typical brick but cool.... As if you think I couldn't do that for Wolverine? Yeah, we both know Wolverine's will be longer and more impressive...
I'll spare you the waste of time.
Ares 7/10 at least.
