Ares vs. Wolverine

Started by OneDumbG020 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't need to reread two fights I've read over and over for about 3 weeks now.

No need to beat a dead horse. Panel for panel the actual fight between Gorgon and Phobos is shorter than the one between Ares and Phobos. Of course unless you want to count the break in the fight which Phobos used to his advantage.... which would still be an equal number of panels...
You can pretend that isn't true I guess, but doing so makes you look rather foolish when you're talking about math.

... are you just being dense now for no reason? The Gorgon/Phobos fight is not shorter than the Ares/Phobos fight. This isn't disputable, so seriously drop it.

Because as soon as I waste my time posting the scans, you're going to go back and requalify your inane assessment and pretend you're not wrong.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yes I'm sure insisting that I'm gettin down and dirty on Logan's dick is an insult to my logic.
If you're going o mince words, get things straight, because you slurpin Logan's dong didn't come out til after you started flinging your hissyfits and tried to turn this into something between you and I. I'm not above returning insults with insults. I've said so. I've not above taking insults either but with you, as soon as I start returning them, you turn this into a complete b1tch-fest. It's tired. Nobody cares.
Originally posted by jinzin
Whatever... look I DIDN'T say Ares wasn't using SOME degree of skill in his fight with Phobos... infact I said the exact opposite...
What you said is this:

Originally posted by jinzin
he's just using his durability to tank shots and use that opening to overpower Phobos which is exactly what one would expect from the two.

That's not exactly uber skill there with the exception of one dodge [u]size=3](Maybe?)[/size] at the beginning.

One dodge is all the skill used? You're being revisionist with history here. And frankly, not being able to pin down what your "true" opinion here is nobody's fault but your own. Let me know when you have an actual position here. I'm done mincing your words inscrutably. It's a waste of time. Because you somehow meant something else to keep avoiding admitting youre just wrong.

Going onto completely different tangents and dragging this out serves no purpose. At some point, you'll throw enough personal diatribe into it and act all shocked once you get a personal insult thrown your way, that you'l derail this for a page or two having no semblance to the original issue we're discussing.

Oh wait, that already happened. We're just in the post-b1tch fit phase.

🥷

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... are you just being dense now for no reason? The Gorgon/Phobos fight is not shorter than the Ares/Phobos fight. This isn't disputable, so seriously drop it.

Either that... or you're having trouble counting the scans that actually pretain to the fight...

Given that you think Phobos kicking Gorgon in the face was evidence credible in concerns to their one on one... I think I'll pick the ladder.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because as soon as I waste my time posting the scans, you're going to go back and requalify your inane assessment and pretend you're not wrong.
I seem to remember you doing this in concerns to Gorgon being "phucked" without Godkiller... So... projecting again? Nice. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you're going o mince words, get things straight, because you slurpin Logan's dong didn't come out til after you started flinging your hissyfits and tried to turn this into something between you and I.
😂 again, when you insult it's cool, when I do, it's a hissyfit... Double standard ODG....

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm not above returning insults with insults.
Clearly... or starting with insults for that matter....
To bad their all homo-erotic in this thread. Would be nice to see something entertaining or half well thought out past your own sexual preferences. But whateveh.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've said so. I've not above taking insults either but with you, as soon as I start returning them, you turn this into a complete b1tch-fest. It's tired. Nobody cares. What you said is this:

One dodge is all the skill used? You're being revisionist with history here. And frankly, not being able to pin down what your "true" opinion here is nobody's fault but your own. Let me know when you have an actual position here. I'm done mincing your words inscrutably. It's a waste of time. Because you somehow meant something else to keep avoiding admitting youre just wrong.

Going onto completely different tangents and dragging this out serves no purpose. At some point, you'll throw enough personal diatribe into it and act all shocked once you get a personal insult thrown your way, that you'l derail this for a page or two having no semblance to the original issue we're discussing.

Oh wait, that already happened. We're just in the post-b1tch fit phase.

😂 so you openly admit that YOU'RE the one mincing my words? lol Exactly... you have to in order to keep up with the things that are actually being discussed. You're the master of strawman arguments... What a joke.

As for rest, projectionistic nonsense calling the kettle black as usual.

Yeah, the only thing in the fight between him and Phobos that was clearly a feat only attributable to skill and speed was his sidestep the quality of which his performance throughout the rest of that page is not.
Tanking hits to land his own is not some feat of skill. But you apparently disagree.

Originally posted by jinzin
Either that... or you're having trouble counting the scans that actually pretain to the fight...

Given that you think Phobos kicking Gorgon in the face was evidence credible in concerns to their one on one... I think I'll pick the ladder.

... so you're picking and choosing only the panels that you think are relevant to the fight and you came out with 6?

WTF?

Originally posted by jinzin
I seem to remember you doing this in concerns to Gorgon being "phucked" without Godkiller... So... projecting again? Nice.
And I repeat, Gorgon would have been phucked without Godkiller.
Originally posted by jinzin
again, when you insult it's cool, when I do, it's a hissyfit... Double standard ODG....

Clearly... or starting with insults for that matter....
To bad their all homo-erotic in this thread. Would be nice to see something entertaining or half well thought out past your own sexual preferences. But whateveh.

It's not "cool"? It just shouldn't be so shocking and unexpected and cause you to b1tch-fit when you start flinging the mud my way. Seriously, you're a tired act. Your sense of indignity is ridiculous.
Originally posted by jinzin
so you openly admit that YOU'RE the one mincing my words? lol Exactly... you have to in order to keep up with the things that are actually being discussed. You're the master of strawman arguments... What a joke.

As for rest, projectionistic nonsense calling the kettle black as usual.

Yeah, the only thing in the fight between him and Phobos that was clearly a feat only attributable to skill and speed was his sidestep the quality of which his performance throughout the rest of that page is not.
Tanking hits to land his own is not some feat of skill. But you apparently disagree.

Good job chasing your on tail acting like you're not trying to strip Ares' curbstomp of Phobos of skill. What a waste of time that you can veer like a see=saw back and forth wiggling your way through the criticisms ad act like you haven't just completely contorted your position or left us with no clue what your position is from one post o the next.

Let me get this straight... somehow... you think this fight is SHORTER...

THAN THIS FIGHT:

WTF?

Originally posted by jinzin
7 panels of fighting> 6 panels of fighting...
WTF?
Originally posted by jinzin
So quickly that it was longer than the Gorgon fight. 😱
WTF?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... so you're picking and choosing only the panels that you think are relevant to the fight and you came out with 6?

WTF? And I repeat, Gorgon would have been phucked without Godkiller. It's not "cool"? It just shouldn't be so shocking and unexpected and cause you to b1tch-fit when you start flinging the mud my way. Seriously, you're a tired act. Your sense of indignity is ridiculous. Good job chasing your on tail acting like you're not trying to strip Ares' curbstomp of Phobos of skill. What a waste of time that you can veer like a see=saw back and forth wiggling your way through the criticisms ad act like you haven't just completely contorted your position or left us with no clue what your position is from one post o the next.

I'm choosing which panels are relivent to the actual fighting portion of the fight yes... The same way I ALSO ignored the panels between Ares and Phobos that were non representational of the fight at hand.... I suppose you're right, I should indclude those too, regardless of their contribution to a discussion involving actual h2h etc.

And you repeat the same nonsense that was contradicted by on panel evidence... the evidence you hold so dear in every other thread every time it comes to something you like.

😂 I'm not sure where you THINK I was shocked, with your behavior in this thread. I knew full well the douchbaggery that would follow once you excreted yourself into this thread. It's par for the course when you show up.

My position has been clear from day one to anyone who doesn't have egomaniacal blinders on OR at the very least has two coins of common sense in their head.... Ares' curbstomp of Phobos wasn't entirely because of skill, it wasn't even majorally because of skill.

He had one instance of skill/speed to be accounted for and it wasn't even half as impressive as Gorgon's once he was under the same circumstances.

Equivocating Ares to Gorgon using Phobos as a measuring stick is pathetic ABC nonsense that doesn't translate over to a character with the powerset of Wolverine. It's that simple.

Again, I can make a more credible argument for Wolverine and his performances against Herc, and Thor.... I can make an incredibly more effective argument using his performances against DH II... There's no reason to treat 1/2 panels of Ares' entire career as the measuring stick for this thread.... unless of course, you're desperate to prove something... which it would seem.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm choosing which panels are relivent to the actual fighting portion of the fight yes...
LOL

25 panels compared to Gorgon's 18 (of course ignoring the boot to the face at the beginning of the comic for what should be obvious reasons).....

Yeah.... it's shorter.

Likewise you think
this:

is more impressive than THIS?

Why am I not surprised... 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm choosing which panels are relivent to the actual fighting portion of the fight yes...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
LOL

😂 😆 🤣 💃 crylaugh laughcry

yup, you're the only one that gets to cherry pick 'round these parts.

^ Wait... aha... haha... which 6 panels are the only "relevant" ones in the Gorgon/Phobos fight? Tell me which ones. I need to record this for posterity. Ahaha.

crylaugh crylaugh crylaugh crylaugh

Holy phucknutz, this is awesome. Win, jinzin. Phucking WIN.

The ones where they're actually fighting would seem to matter.

I always enjoy you two going at each other.

^ When it doesn't involve b1tch-fits, I LOVE IT TOO!!!!! I LOVE THIS.

Originally posted by jinzin
The ones where they're actually fighting would seem to matter.
Ahaha... no really... which ones... I can't tell. Which ones? Use normal... hah... descriptins like first page third panel.. DO it! lol TELL ME!

laughcry laughcry laughcry laughcry laughcry

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I always enjoy you two going at each other.

everyone usually does.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I always enjoy you two going at each other.

I do to.

For some strange reason, I can't pick a winner out of the two.

second scan: second and third panels.
Third scan: first and second panels.
fourth scan: easily ignored as it's a break in combat that takes place after the aformentioned second panel, you COULD include this, but it's as relivent as the shots Ares took before the last scan of his fight.
Action doesn't resume again until the fith scan.
So it was 7 panels of relivent action... sweet.

Only two of which are actually comparible to the Ares fight. lol!

Now I suppose we could include the posturing and such but that would dictate we use a lot of other irrelivent panels into the fray as well... to whcih again, the Ares fight takes longer.

LOL

So Phobos actually tagging Gorgon with Grasscutter is not "relevant" to the fight?!

😂 😆 🤣 💃 crylaugh laughcry

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Holy phucknutz, this is awesome. Win, jinzin. Phucking [b]WIN. [/B]

Folks... I present to you: WOLVERITHMETICS!!!!!!

pretty much, as it only happened during a pause in the action as Gorgon got cuaght monologuing in reaction to Phobos using his fear powers. Like I said, we COULD opt to include that scan, but it automatically makes it legitimate to bring up how Ares got his neck opened like a can of tuna.

If you want to compare the scans in their entirety regardless of relivence then yeah, Ares fight is still longer.