It did not... You know Deadline, he couldn't help himself......
So here we are.
Originally posted by jinzin
This is utterly absurd...First off, where is deadpool relative to those explosions? Is he being hit center mass by them? Give us some god damned CONTEXT....
Because the fact of the matter is that plenty of characters survive being inside the blast radius of explosion's in comics, Spiderman did it inside the blast radius of an explosion that took off the top of a building. But that isn't the same thing as having a projectile grenade hit you in the friggin CHEST and wading through it...
You know it really doesn't matter much since we've already seen this argument put to rest.
When Sabretooth and Wolverine crashlanded the Blackbird, Sabretooth took the brunt of the collision. But when we see them next it's only Wolverine who's been reduced to have an Adamantium Skeleton... Sabretooth? Yeah, all he had was some skin damage in patches. That's not HF in effect, it's DURABILITY.
No one in Silver Sable's class including herself have ever regarded Cap's durability as being a reason for pain in and of itself as far as I'm aware.
That fact alone puts a very undergraded Sabretooth above Cap.But then you have a class 5 Black Cat ALSO hurting herself hitting Creed... Is that ALSO because of his healing factor you dolt?
Tell me:
How are you going to explain that a class 65+ couldn't use a nerve pinch on Sabretooth because of his muscles being too dense?Explain that one Deadline.... 😐
I understand you generally hate everything Wolvie related and argue for argument's sake pretty much ALL the time... but still it's shocking.. I mean, I can't believe how far you are willing to lowball any Wolverine related character here no matter how many times something's been stated, or proven, for that matter I can't believe how many times you're willing to brush off us TELLING you these FACTS flat out......
but you want us to put credence into Cap hurting Professor Hulk? 🤨What a joke you are.
Sabretooth has superhuman durability.
It's been proven time and time again, stop being a ****ing troll you ignorant illiterate piece. 😐
http://hdcpoker.com/images/low.gif
i am really getting tired of his constant lowballing..
there have bn repeated references and scans stating his superhuman durability and muscle density..
this isnt debating when he does this sh$#....
Originally posted by King Castle
http://hdcpoker.com/images/low.gifi am really getting tired of his constant lowballing..
there have bn repeated references and scans stating his superhuman durability and muscle density..
this isnt debating when he does this sh$#....
All I'm saying is that it's a combination of superhuman durability and HF. I'm not saying he can't do these feats its just that your explanation is wrong. Thats not lowballing.
What does Muscle density have to do with anything? Nothing because as wev'e explained before you are arguing about a trope in a debate.
You've yet to explain how he has superhuman durability without overemphasizing blatant PIS and not accounting for the fact that regular bullets go through his skin like butter. What happened to his muscle density that could stop class 60 characters from hurting him?
Oh thats right we can't use that because in a debate we think logically and don't use straw man arguments to try and move past the point.
If Sabertooth had the level of durability your talking about a bullet would not hurt him, a bullet would not pass through his skin, and a bullet would not tear his body up.
Only conclusion we have left to look at is the fact that its his healing factor thats saving him and not due to any imaginary muscle density that can't stop bullets but can tank class 60 punches and survive the force of explosions point blank.
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Originally posted by King Castle
http://hdcpoker.com/images/low.gifi am really getting tired of his constant lowballing..
there have bn repeated references and scans stating his superhuman durability and muscle density..
this isnt debating when he does this sh$#....
Seriously. It's just as bad as Sas basically beckoning people to ignore Sabretooth's whole career, who anyone can not only be so blind to the evidence that they (not don't.. but) WON'T acknowledge it BUT ALSO have such confidence in their ridiculous while doing so is completely beyond me.... 😐
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You two are crazy about each other. Deep down... keep at it. There are just hidden frustrations.
😂
There are, it's true!
Oh hey guys! I found another one:
Sabretooth's pounce pulverizing a taxi with the force of an explosion.... total healing factor feat right there! dur
Sabretooth brushing off being run over by a car? HEALING FEAT! dur
SERIOUSLY don't you guys know Sabrertooth doesn't have ANY durability feats! dur
It depends on what is considered superhuman durability. He's definitely way beyond a human in what he can tank (even without hf). But if you mean on the level of Colossus in terms of exernal toughness, then no.
He will have extra muscle and bone density because of his strength, much like Spider-Man does. Although Sabes strength seems to be a mystery on this forum.
Originally posted by jinzin
SERIOUSLY don't you guys know Sabrertooth doesn't have ANY durability feats! dur
Originally posted by Deadline
All I'm saying is that it's a combination of superhuman durability and HF. I'm not saying he can't do these feats its just that your explanation is wrong. Thats not lowballing. [/QUOTE[QUOTE=13102423]Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It depends on what is considered superhuman durability. He's definitely way beyond a human in what he can tank (even without hf). But if you mean on the level of Colossus in terms of exernal toughness, then no.He will have extra muscle and bone density because of his strength, much like Spider-Man does. Although Sabes strength seems to be a mystery on this forum.
Exactly.
Originally posted by SasuOna
What does Muscle density have to do with anything? Nothing because as wev'e explained before you are arguing about a trope in a debate.You've yet to explain how he has superhuman durability without overemphasizing blatant PIS and not accounting for the fact that regular bullets go through his skin like butter. What happened to his muscle density that could stop class 60 characters from hurting him?
Oh thats right we can't use that because in a debate we think logically and don't use straw man arguments to try and move past the point.
If Sabertooth had the level of durability your talking about a bullet would not hurt him, a bullet would not pass through his skin, and a bullet would not tear his body up.
Only conclusion we have left to look at is the fact that its his healing factor thats saving him and not due to any imaginary muscle density that can't stop bullets but can tank class 60 punches and survive the force of explosions point blank.
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Thor's been shot by a bullet.
Wendigo's been shot by a bullet.
The entire premise of Diana having to block bullets stems from the fact that being shot by them would hurt her.
THERE ARE DIFFERING TYPES OF DURABILITY IN COMICS.
Your insistence otherwise is an asinine attempt to blanket over the explanation that comics provide.. because remember THEY'RE COMIC BOOKS. 😐
Now I guess you can try to point out how that logic doesn't work (Even though your mild attempts to have failed thus far... but you can try I guess).... But that doesn't begin to cover what I then requested you answer....
In your black and white world:
Why is Sabretooth being shot by bullets what we should be taking at face value instead of ignoring? How come his durability doesn't take more precedence in your mind in spite of it being a massive part of his typical representation?
Oh right, because your an ignoramus who can't understand the hypocrisy of his own argumentation.
Originally posted by jinzinif you can post the generation X issue 1 where synch tells skin how he was able to maintain sabretooth muscle mass it will strengthen the physical density of sabe's.
Seriously. It's just as bad as Sas basically beckoning people to ignore Sabretooth's whole career, who anyone can not only be so blind to the evidence that they (not don't.. but) WON'T acknowledge it BUT ALSO have such confidence in their ridiculous while doing so is completely beyond me.... 😐😂
There are, it's true!Oh hey guys! I found another one:
Sabretooth's pounce pulverizing a taxi with the force of an explosion.... total healing factor feat right there! durSabretooth brushing off being run over by a car? HEALING FEAT! dur
SERIOUSLY don't you guys know Sabrertooth doesn't have ANY durability feats! dur
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It depends on what is considered superhuman durability. He's definitely way beyond a human in what he can tank (even without hf). But if you mean on the level of Colossus in terms of exernal toughness, then no.He will have extra muscle and bone density because of his strength, much like Spider-Man does. Although Sabes strength seems to be a mystery on this forum.
No body's saying the guy's Colossus, but he definitely ain't Captain America either...
The guy has shown a level of durability that's on par with a class 25-50.. maybe even higher. To argue that he doesn't have superhuman durability is a contradiction to his entire career. Even BEFORE he ever had a healing factor. 😬
Originally posted by King Castleduring phalanx right? Don't have it atm. Well I have it, but I can't post it. 😬
if you can post the generation X issue 1 where synch tells skin how he was able to maintain sabretooth muscle mass it will strengthen the physical density of sabe's.
In concerns to Deadline's assertion about Sabretooth's durability....
I DO have this though:
its this issue:
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/generation-x/1-1.jpg
synch references the phalanx covenant storyline and how he was running around all tall and buff...
Originally posted by jinzin
Class 100 shots liquify every organ in his body... I don't know how many times it has to be pointed out to you that this statement's been made in comics.I know Srank has been doing it for years.
Between Wolverine having an adamantium skeleton, superhuman body, and a healing factor that can heal mortal injury as fast as it was made... How is him taking a class 100 shot PIS?
Its not PIS, the point is that it doesn't make any sense but we accept it because he's done it consistently. I'm not just arguing that his internal organs should be liquified but he should be a skeleton as well. That makes even less sense, so his flesh and external organs are intangible that remain intact but his internal organs don't? Also it doesn't make sense that when he gets hit by class 100 punches that he doesn't go into the next state.
Originally posted by jinzin
Are fantastic examples of PIS thank you.
Not what my post was responding to.
Originally posted by jinzin
2. Even IF you want to take this stance and pretend it isn't PIS, Cap doesn't put down people with Sabretooth's level of durability AND healing... He has a hard enough time attempting that shit on Logan.
Logan was beserk by the way, even if it wasn't true beserker it would have been harder to KO him. Cap managed to bypass Wolverines HF but whenever something like that happens its because his HF was weakened.
Originally posted by jinzin
Tell me logically how Cap's class 2 strength is a means to bybass class 100+ durability that has proven to resist even various forms of adamantium weaponry...Is Cap more durable than Adamantium now?
Already explained.
Originally posted by jinzin
Bleh, it really doesn't matter Deadline because your ass backwards logic is completely flawed anyways."Cap takes tougher guys than Sabretooth all the time" isn't an answer on how he is going to win this fight.
1.) SABRETOOTH takes tougher guys than Cap all the time.
-It's an argument that works both ways and it certainly doesn't address anything even remotely relivent in the thread.2.) Sabretooth makes it his dayjob to harrass, beat, and humiliate someone who is practically Cap's carbon copy in Wolverine... except that when he beats on Wolverine he has to work past a healing factor that's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cap's healing abilities AND he thinks it's a game when he is doing so.
3.)The real issue doesn't even have to do with the fact that Sabretooth takes tougher guys out than Cap, it has to do much more with the fact that Sabretooth IS a tougher guy than Cap....
Taking what I said out of context. I said they could win bcause theres two of them, Cap could possibly KO him and has superior tactics. However I don't think Sabretooth owns Wolverine all the time like you are saying.
Originally posted by jinzin
Again....
This:Even IF Captain America had the damage output to be able to break Sabretooth's bones with his blows (And he certainly does not), AND he had some sort of attack that could break all of Sabretooth's bones at once..... look at how much good that would be doing him. 😐
NONE comes to mind.
So no, unless you can explain to me how Cap is going to win besides just insisting that he will, I'm not going to even begin taking your argument seriously. .
It's not like he got up straight away in those scans, anyway.
Originally posted by jinzin
The fact that a weaker version of Sabretooth beat Cap's elseworlds equal with more weaponry is just icing on that particular cake....Sabretooth FTW.
If you want to use that as proof thats fine but its not like it's overwhelming. Psycloke isn't qualified enough to make that statement. You don't have an extensive knowledge of somebodies h2h but having 'some' team ups.
By the way note how immature you guys are being. I'm not saying that he can't do these feats its just not for the reasons you are giving. Just a perfect example of you guys expecting people to agree with everything you say and rubbishing every opinion that doesn't agree with your own.
Originally posted by jinzinI didn't mean *you* I just meant in general.
No body's saying the guy's Colossus, but he definitely ain't Captain America either...The guy has shown a level of durability that's on par with a class 25-50.. maybe even higher. To argue that he doesn't have superhuman durability is a contradiction to his entire career. Even BEFORE he ever had a healing factor. 😬
If Colossus were considered the benchmark of where super durability begins, then he wouldn't be. But that's just too iffy for several reasons.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterwell if colossus is the standard for possessing legitimate durability i am willing to except and concede that sabe does not have superhuman durability. 😉
I didn't mean *you* I just meant in general.If Colossus were considered the benchmark of where super durability begins, then he wouldn't be. But that's just too iffy for several reasons.
