Originally posted by ares834Like this will matter to them. Hulk fought on different planets, dude.
Yes. If anything it is unfair to the Heroes because they are fighting on unfamiliar ground.
And the heroes retain all their powers, even gaining the ability to see and venture past a protego shield charm.
Originally posted by ares834Nah, watch closer. He walks through the gate, it remains solid, he emerges through the other side as smoke. I could named other instances of wizards going intangible if you like.
Actually, Snape makes the gate intangible... Not himself.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
in case you missed it
I saw it, and?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, watch closer. He walks through the gate, it remains solid, he emerges through the other side as smoke. I could named other instances of wizards going intangible if you like.
I did. He flicks his wand at the gate (rather than himself). And walks thorugh it.
Edit: Also watch at 0:31 where the spell is weaing off the gate.
Don't believe me. Watch the vid.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I would think that the fact that they are attacking it shows they have already found the school. 😬
And you found that where in the OP?
Originally posted by the ninjak
The Watcher....a powerful being that can create alternate realities summons Superman from the DC Universe and Hulk and Abomination from the Marvel Universe, plus Hancock from his and tells them of a school full of Wizards that must be eradicated unless the universe falls apart!Voldemort's Death Eaters will aid Dumbledore in this epic Siege differences aside in the name of survival.
Who wins. Battle takes place at Hogwarts. Noon. After Goblet of Fire. Bloodlusted battle.
They get the mission to destroy Hogwarts and bring the battle to the school. Does anything say they are already on the grounds?
As for seeing it, Supermna can fly through it several thousand times per second. He doesn't need to see it.
No. He can't. Because if he comes too close, the Muggle repelling charm tells him to go home.
Though of course, if you would be so nice as to show the on-screen proof and extent of the protective enchantments around Hogwarts, kindly do so.
RJ has pretty much already done this.
We see Death Eaters colliding with the protection in OotP. We see the effects of the Fidelius Charm in the same movie. We've seen the effects of various protection spells in DH part 1, where Hermione and Harry utilize the spells to protect their respective campsites.
Though it will be fun seeing someone competant arguing for the wizards for a change. [/B]
The point is that the four superpowered humanoids will never make it into the castle without magic, which kind of seals the deal for them. Even presuming that they would be able to do the job, magic has been shown to protect Wizards against physical harm even without them taking an active roll in it. Likewise it has been demonstrated, that Wizards can subconciously make use of magic in dangerous situations (e.g. Harry before even knowing that he was a Wizard).
Especially the last thing might result in an uncanny amount of ownage against the approaching quartet. Wizards might simply teleport away automatically (much like Harry did teleport onto the roof of his school), become impervious to certain forms of damage (e.g. Neville boucing through the garden after falling from a window). Make things disappear (see Harry in PS/SS) or turn people into living, humanoid ballons (see Harry in Prisoner of Azkaban).
The more capable Wizards could utilize magic with a mere thought. Dumbledore, in the sequence where he visits young Voldemort in the orphanage in HPB, obviously reads Tom Riddles thoughts and lights the wandrobe behind his back on fire with a mere thought. I don't want to know what the likes of Voldemort would come up with, when really pressed.
No. He can't. Because if he comes too close, the Muggle repelling charm tells him to go home.
What Muggle repelling charm? I recall no Muggle repelling charm in the movies.
We see Death Eaters colliding with the protection in OotP.
Oh god! A ball of smoke!
Jeez, that thing really is impenetrable....
We see the effects of the Fidelius Charm in the same movie. We've seen the effects of various protection spells in DH part 1, where Hermione and Harry utilize the spells to protect their respective campsites.
We have not, however, seen any of these on Hogwarts. Forgive me if I do not take your word that they are there.
The point is that the four superpowered humanoids will never make it into the castle without magic,
A point as of yet unproven.
Even presuming that they would be able to do the job, magic has been shown to protect Wizards against physical harm even without them taking an active roll in it.
Example? Video proof?
Likewise it has been demonstrated, that Wizards can subconciously make use of magic in dangerous situations (e.g. Harry before even knowing that he was a Wizard).
In utterly uncontrollable ways. You'll need something a little more substantial to sway me my friend.
Especially the last thing might result in an uncanny amount of ownage against the approaching quartet. Wizards might simply teleport away automatically (much like Harry did teleport onto the roof of his school), become impervious to certain forms of damage (e.g. Neville boucing through the garden after falling from a window). Make things disappear (see Harry in PS/SS) or turn people into living, humanoid ballons (see Harry in Prisoner of Azkaban).
Might isn't good enough.
The more capable Wizards could utilize magic with a mere thought.
In this case a mere thought is insufficient. No wizard has the reaction time needed to fight Superman in any way shape or form, particularly as he is bloodlusted in this thread.
Originally posted by ares834And as Snape walks through the gate, he is trailing smoke. There is a smoke trail behind him AFTER he passes through the gate that reforms on him.
I did. He flicks his wand at the gate (rather than himself). And walks thorugh it.Edit: Also watch at 0:31 where the spell is weaing off the gate.
Don't believe me. Watch the vid.
Try again.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And as Snape walks through the gate, he is trailing smoke. There is a smoke trail behind him AFTER he passes through the gate that reforms on him.Try again.
The smoke comes from the gate itself. The smoke trails behind him because that's what happens when someone walks through smoke, it follows in the wake. And you missed the part where the gate re-solidifies 30 seconds in...
Try again.
Originally posted by Nephthys
What Muggle repelling charm? I recall no Muggle repelling charm in the movies.
"Repello Muggletum". Used in Deathly Hallows by Hermione and Harry to protect their campsites, mentioned to have been used on the magic schools and the stadion of the Quidditch World Cup (Goblet of Fire).
Oh god! A ball of smoke!Jeez, that thing really is impenetrable....
Since Dumbledore asks, how Draco was capable of getting his Death Eater friends into the school in HPB, it was impenetrable to anything available to the Death Eaters at least.
We have not, however, seen any of these on Hogwarts. Forgive me if I do not take your word that they are there.
Ignoring the written canon, when it doesn't contradict the movies, isn't part of the rules of the movie versus, is it? Ignoring everything implied in the movies also doesn't seem to be the way to go.
A point as of yet unproven.
See above.
Example? Video proof?
It was impossible for a Wizard to die in a car crash, according to Hagrid in PS/SS. The same movie has Neville dropping from his broom, with the result being a broken wrist from a 10 - 15 meter drop. In Prisoner of Azkaban, we see one of the Seekers getting hit by lightning and continue flight after some seconds of disorientation. In the same movie, Hermione and Harry take it up with the Whomping Willow (which maimed the Weasley's car in Chamber of Secrets) without an injury. Also this:
First: Harry "automatically" counter curses Voldemort, while he's on the brink of being knocked out by the pain caused when the Dark Lord appears. Also, apparently, the wand exploding right in Voldemorts hand is enough to knock the power poles over, but doesn't affect the Dark Lord at all. A similar situation is implied in Prisoner of Azkaban when the "death" of Peter Pettigrew is described, who, in reality, blew a hole into the ground right next to his feet, with the explosion killing a dozen innocent bystanders but left him (and Sirius) untouched.
In utterly uncontrollable ways. You'll need something a little more substantial to sway me my friend.
See above. Those guys can take explosions happening right in front of them and walk aways as if nothing happens. They can also cast spells with a mere thought or even without concious thought, as seen above...
In this case a mere thought is insufficient. No wizard has the reaction time needed to fight Superman in any way shape or form, particularly as he is bloodlusted in this thread.
In which movie did Superman take out a thousand opponents in an instance again?
Superman and Hancock are way overconfident in themselves. Superman, when faced with machine gun wielding enemies, walked up to them and tanked the bullets. Hancock, in the bank scene, same, he was walking around letting bullets bounce off of him. That's their style.
Now, what will likely happen here after they lulz FIND the castle? They'll likely approach the fight the same way. They'll corner a cowering third year in a corner, start to walk over all cool like, then BAM they'll get transfigured into barbie dolls. It's not like they KNOW what the wizards can do, is it? I mean all they'll see is faggy wizards waving a stick in the air.
Hulk and the other? Arresto Momentum, then Evanesco. Lulz at Hulk swatting the air around him in vain at half apparating wizards. Epic lulz, man.
Hulk, at the half apparating Snape: "HULK GETTING VERY ANGRY!!!"
Snape: "Yes, and?"
Hulk: " HULK SMASH WIZARD MAN!!!"
Snape: Well, see the vid below:
Snape: "Imperio."......At this point, Hulk is Snape's puppet. Snape can turn Hulk on his teammates.
Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, another Harry Potter spite thread turn on it's creator. I love the smell of butthurt in the morning.
Originally posted by NephthysYes, they are bloodlusted morons.
They're bloodlusted moron.
Tell me, what about being bloodlusted will suddenly totally change their fighting style? Seems to me that if they are bloodlusted, they will more likely want to take their time, grab wizards one by one and crush them.
Being bloodlusted does not make them suddenly change their tactics. They'll rely on their invincibility. They don't know what the wizards are capable of. They do not know what transfiguration is, what a vanishing spell is, or what the death spell is. You telling me that they are gonna look and see a bunch of wizards with wands in their hands and take them seriously?
Wait, unless, all of a sudden, the heroes are aware of any and all wizard powers.......Yes, that would make sense, alter the OP 14 pages in to net a win.
Not. Wizards win.
Originally posted by Borbarad
"Repello Muggletum". Used in Deathly Hallows by Hermione and Harry to protect their campsites, mentioned to have been used on the magic schools and the stadion of the Quidditch World Cup (Goblet of Fire).
I would question whether it would work on Superman. Supes, afterall, isn't a muggle (which is a non-wizarding human) and said spell doesn't seem to affect other animals such as owls.
Since Dumbledore asks, how Draco was capable of getting his Death Eater friends into the school in HPB, it was impenetrable to anything available to the Death Eaters at least.
True.
Ignoring the written canon, when it doesn't contradict the movies, isn't part of the rules of the movie versus, is it?
I don't like it either but it seems to be the way this forum works.
It was impossible for a Wizard to die in a car crash, according to Hagrid in PS/SS.
That is not what Hagrid says. Far more likely he is outraged that the Dursley's gave them such an unheroic death when in truth they went out in a blaze of glory.
First: Harry "automatically" counter curses Voldemort, while he's on the brink of being knocked out by the pain caused when the Dark Lord appears.
We both know this was due to the Harry/Voldemort conection and not something that Harry will be able to replicate agianst other opponents. Which is why Voldemort is looking for the Elder Wand.
Also, apparently, the wand exploding right in Voldemorts hand is enough to knock the power poles over, but doesn't affect the Dark Lord at all.
It appears to me at least Voldemort does that not the wand exploding. Regardless surving an explosion that can knock over power poles does not mean he will survive a punch from Superman who can move the moon.
A similar situation is implied in Prisoner of Azkaban when the "death" of Peter Pettigrew is described, who, in reality, blew a hole into the ground right next to his feet, with the explosion killing a dozen innocent bystanders but left him (and Sirius) untouched.
Is it ever stated that he blew a hole in the ground? Or that this hole was at his feet? And finally that this curse that blew the hole also killed the bystanders?
It's been awhile since I watched PoA.