Originally posted by Borbarad
You're certainly my superior when it comes to pointless trash talk. Fortunately, this is the only department in which your abilities exceed mine. That being said, can we go on with the debating? Thanks.I'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept of "time dilation". It, simple put, works like this: The faster you move, the slower time passes for you. So if Superman moves with the speed of light, time would almost stop for him, which means that he doesn't need superhumanly fast thoughts in order to move with FTL speed, because the sheer speed would cut out the need for him to think that fast.
THe next thing is that "proof" you're talking about. I've not seen Superman thinking faster than humans, nor have I seen him moving through the atmosphere with anything even remotely close to the speed of light. You may be able to tell me where to find the suggested proof that he can, otherwise I have to assume that he's incapable of doing it.
You are aware that none of that is ever mentioned in the movies, correct? If you want to introduce material from the books, than you have to allow it for both sides and not just when you see it fit. That aside: Intention and focus are anything they need to use a bulk of the spells, as demonstrated rather often in the movies, unless coming from the students. And, sorry to correct you, but also the Unforgiveables - especially Avada Kedavra - have been used without incantation in the movies.
"He'll be able to read my mind?"
"Read it, control it, unhinge it. In the past it was often the Dark Lord's pleasure to invade the minds of his victims, creating visions designed to torture them into madness. Only after extracting the last exquisite ounce of agony, only when he had them literally begging for death would he finally...kill them."Voldemort was tampering with the minds of his victims using that very spell. And we know he's capable of utilizing this without wand or incantation.
We know what he can do with it, given Snape's lecture of Voldemorts previous uses of the art before.
Oh, great. So your basing your "argument" on the statements of some TV Reporters, who are demonstateably wrong given that Superman is incapable of saving Lois in the movie at first, meaning he can't be in two places at the same time not even close to? You simply can't ignore that and cherrypick what you like. And if he can fly at that speeds in outer space he would still be able to travel around the world rather fast - just not in atmosphere. If he was capable of doing so, why fly into orbit to "turn back time" at all? Why didn't he "speedblitz" through the entirety of the film? Simple answer: Because he could not do this.
I didn't know that the various Wikipedias are threated as relyable source here. Especially since they don't make any difference between movie and book canon. The Taboo is never mentioned in the DH movie, we just see it's effect, when the Snatchers arrive at the Café. The same is the case with the teachers position jinx, which is mentioned but never explained in detail.
That aside: I merely sited those in order to proof that Voldemort is capable of affecting totally immaterial things, such as his own name or the DADA teacher position, to illustrated the capabilities of magic beyond usual spell flinging. Do you remember painting that "age line" around the Goblet of Fire in the fourth movie. Imagine him doing the same with a speed limit and around the school. Or he could simply summon a giant pile of kryptonite in his office, out of thin air. And so on, and so forth...
Your intellectual shortcomings, culminating in the lack of ability to understand my points, are certainly not my problem.
Willingly? Pff. Voldemort punished Quirrel by possessing him, because his servant failed to steal the Philosopher's Stone from Gringotts. That's hardly "willingly".
Questioning the abilities of a character because of his illogical behavior is hardly logical. Voldemort was stripped from his body in what he saw as his greatest moment of triumph, by his own spell backfiring at him. He had no explanation for what happened. He paniced and fled. And Albania is not in southeastern England but in southeastern Europe (I think you ment that): Why go there to possess snakes? He could also have done that in the forests of England.
And we know that he can possess other beings. If I may remind you: That is the basic for the entire plot of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets", where Voldemort does possess Ginny. Apparently, he was also able to make Quirrel his servant in that "spirit shape" and he was - if you want to take the books into consideration - able to torture and kill Bertha Jorkins in that shape, before getting his "baby Voldemort body".
He traveled across Europe to possess snakes in a forest, you wanted to say (so much for your knowledge in Georgraphy...). He fled, because every damn Wizard in the UK was trying to get his ass and he couldn't explain what happened to him. Apparently, he fled once again after his defeat at the end of PS/SS. Where is your point? He probably didn't want to possess some muggle and was uncertain who was loyal to him and who would have betrayed him. If that weren't the case, he would have visited one of his Death Eater friends, don't you think so?
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
HOLY. F.U.*.*I.N.G S***. Anyone who thinks that Hogwarts stands a chance in Hell against Superman is a damn fool.
What's stopping Supes and Hulk from entering the earth and simply tearing the ground apart?
So that Hogwarts will fall into the ravine. All kids who teleport are BFR.
All who remain on brooms or "smoke form" take on the team.
And die once the field goes down. This thread is team vs hogwarts.
Superman and Hancock fly into space while the Hulk gets killed by the gay spells that the Potter fan boys keep going on about.
Superman then flies about until getting up to his maximum speed and flies straight down into Hogwarts utterly destroying it along with, most likely, the entire planet along with himself.
Hancock is left alive...So Hancock wins.
The end.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering the fact that Superman can go from a standstill to lightspeed instantly (he can't), and that all wizard spells including mind control would not work on Superman (they would work fine), and that the wizards are all asleep, without wands, blindfolded and deaf, yeah, you're right.
He doesn't have to go to instant light-speed in that scenario. He just has to achieve it before impact, which he can.
Spells won't be touching him considering he (as you liked to point out over and over) is already flying.
The rest is just silly and you and the other HP fanboys are butt-hurt cos Hogwarts loses to a vastly superior foe with ridiculous power-levels.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering the fact that Superman can go from a standstill to lightspeed instantly (he can't), and that all wizard spells including mind control would not work on Superman (they would work fine), and that the wizards are all asleep, without wands, blindfolded and deaf, yeah, you're right.
Any of these spells been cast 10‘s of thousands of miles into space?
Did I say he could travel at light speed instantly? no. in fact I even said that he flies about (in space where none of the potter spells have ever been used or reached.) until he reaches his max speed at which point once he starts his descent towards Hogwarts it would be that fast that the wizards would be standing still. Even if we use Superman‘s own admission of his weight as 220lbs from the 1st superman movie and so don't give creedence to the theory that his strength and durability are because of huge mass/density then 220lbs crashing into the earth at lightspeed or close to it would release a colossal amount of energy (perhaps ddm would oblige us with the maths and its effect on hogwarts and the surrounding area) and wipe out all the wizards.