Sentry vs. JLA

Started by the ninjak21 pages

Originally posted by Sin I AM
wtf are u blathering about? stop making excuses for a respectable showing...Sentry wanted to go all out, re-read the dialogue or pester someone for a scan if you doubt me. he was not "holding back" he was releasing his "million exploding suns" and didnt even manage to destroy the city ...it amazes me at the level of fayboyism on this site as of late. People keep saying he wanted to die or lose which is why he lost...bull, point of the matter is, when he was "winning" no1 seems to mention these incidents.

You really think a later Sentry/Void would do the same thing in the same scenario?

The emotion during the power output feat at the end WWH saga was pretty much Sentry thanking Hulk for the experience.

Not long later he learned to create werewolves in the palm of his hands and to reconstruct himself.
His Void persona broke Hulk's bones.

An early Sentry pouring all his energy into an amped Hulk who could with his anger, amp himself to take anything is not a good showing for Sentry. In fact it could be seen as a baby step in Sentry's evolution.

Originally posted by the ninjak
You really think a later Sentry/Void would do the same thing in the same scenario?

The emotion during the power output feat at the end WWH saga was pretty much Sentry thanking Hulk for the experience.

Not long later he learned to create werewolves in the palm of his hands and to reconstruct himself.
His Void persona broke Hulk's bones.

An early Sentry pouring all his energy into an amped Hulk who could with his anger, amp himself to take anything is not a good showing for Sentry. In fact it could be seen as a baby step in Sentry's evolution.

the funny thing about that is sentry sometimes manifest as void while still in sentry form

Yeah the black eyes.

Originally posted by Deadline
My point was that I could seem him using FTL speed against Void not The team.

I tell you what though I guess I am still arguing hes going to fight like an idiot. Not using FTL against the team could certainly be argued as fighting like an idiot, but I don't see him not using it against The Void.

At any rate I really don't care. The rules state that personality is inolved [b]you can't argue that Superman won't use his super speed straight away due to the fact it's his personality and then argue that other heroes will. Thats a contradiction and if you don't understand that then you clearly don't know what one is. [/B]

Except that i never stated nor argued that it was one of one and one of the other. you assumed that.

flash's speed is irrelevant. CIP simply states that he's not going to act stupidly and let himself get hit if he can avoid it. how fast he goes otherwise is inconsequential.

Originally posted by tkitna

Ahhh, the helicarrier moment. The moment when Bob was fighting to regain control.

Proof? Where exactly is this stated? Bob didn't even know where he was after the Hellicarrier hit him.

"Did I do this?"

How could he have been fighting the Void when he didn't even know what was happening?

He reverted back to Bob because he was temporarily drained, much like after the WWH fight.

And just like Hulk was drained after the WWH fight and he came right back also. Just like the Sentry did in Siege.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's not.

Void > Green Scar/Sentry > Thor > Superman > Hercules

Fix'd.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
wtf are u blathering about? stop making excuses for a respectable showing...Sentry wanted to go all out, re-read the dialogue or pester someone for a scan if you doubt me. he was not "holding back" he was releasing his "million exploding suns" and didnt even manage to destroy the city ...it amazes me at the level of fayboyism on this site as of late. People keep saying he wanted to die or lose which is why he lost...bull, point of the matter is, when he was "winning" no1 seems to mention these incidents.

Ok... you know this type of argument doesn't favor the team you are arguing for right? Please let's not use collateral damage as an argument when everyone on the opposing team has cut lose.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok... you know this type of argument doesn't favor the team you are arguing for right? Please let's not use collateral damage as an argument when everyone on the opposing team has cut lose.
This. Collateral damage should never be taken into effect. Thor sometime does no collateral damage and Kinpin does. By collateral damage logic Kingpin>Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok... you know this type of argument doesn't favor the team you are arguing for right? Please let's not use collateral damage as an argument when everyone on the opposing team has cut lose.

i wasnt using it as an argument carver 🤨 , i was simply stating that it wasnt a low showing, and he wasnt holding back

Originally posted by -Pr-
what issue is that from?

Superman Volume 1 #675

Sentry > LT.

Living T couldnt even kill him because Voidtry/Sentry doesnt want to.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Sentry > LT.

Living T couldnt even kill him because Voidtry/Sentry doesnt want to.

wait, what?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman Volume 1 #675

I missed that one. Was it during the whole New Krypton thing?

Originally posted by carver9

Hulk is physically stronger than supes or any other high herald, this shouldn't even be debated. Supes has the edge in versatility. Just because hulk (who is a out right beast) did good against sentry doesn't mean that sentry isn't powerful, especially when we have similar people koing supes.

Find a better argument.

It can and will be debated. I, along with many others, believe Superman to be stronger. For the most part Superman has better strength feats. You'll be hard pressed to find a strength feat from Hulk that Superman can't duplicate or surpass.

You're argument about KO'ing Superman has nothing to do with strength but durability. Find a better argument.

Originally posted by The Pict
It can and will be debated. I, along with many others, believe Superman to be stronger. For the most part Superman has better strength feats. You'll be hard pressed to find a strength feat from Hulk that Superman can't duplicate or surpass.

You're argument about KO'ing Superman has nothing to do with strength but durability. Find a better argument.

Prove it... make a hulk vs superman fight h2h.

Originally posted by The Pict
I, along with many others, believe Superman to be stronger.

You and many others are wrong.

Anyone who knows anything about either characters knows that Superman isn't stronger than the Hulk. That's just silly.

You'd be hard pressed to prove Superman to have any strength edge over Thor much less Hulk.

Superman like Thor or Sentry can match Hulk punch for punch for an extended period of time despite his dynamic factor but to argue that Superman is stronger is an entirely different can of worms.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You and many others are wrong.

Anyone who knows anything about either characters knows that Superman isn't stronger than the Hulk. That's just silly.

You'd be hard pressed to prove Superman to have any strength edge over Thor much less Hulk.

Superman like Thor or Sentry can match Hulk punch for punch for an extended period of time despite his dynamic factor but to argue that Superman is stronger is an entirely different can of worms.

well put 👆

facepalm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You and many others are wrong.

Anyone who knows anything about either characters knows that Superman isn't stronger than the Hulk. That's just silly.

You'd be hard pressed to prove Superman to have any strength edge over Thor much less Hulk.

Superman like Thor or Sentry can match Hulk punch for punch for an extended period of time despite his dynamic factor but to argue that Superman is stronger is an entirely different can of worms.

What about wwh or current hulk rage? Do you think that thor could perform like he did in the past against a much more powerful hulk?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You and many others are wrong.

Anyone who knows anything about either characters knows that Superman isn't stronger than the Hulk. That's just silly.

You'd be hard pressed to prove Superman to have any strength edge over Thor much less Hulk.

Superman like Thor or Sentry can match Hulk punch for punch for an extended period of time despite his dynamic factor but to argue that Superman is stronger is an entirely different can of worms.

Why is everything about Thor for you? God-dammit man...

also, what do you mean "despite" his dynamic factor? or are you talking about hulk?