Gladiator, Silver Surfer, and Super Skrull vs. JLA!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Sin I AM
meh...i dont think it would be that extreme Cytorraks enchantment isnt that powerful, imo Flashes control over the SF is greater than cains being unstoppable

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think surfer vs superman needs to be done in a formal battlezone match with a few posters per respective character.

it would reduce a lot of threads getting derailed by bringing up those two all the time cause any future threads can just have a link to the battlezone, then skip that entire potential flame war any time someone brings up surfer vs superman

it will eventually.

Ok, Let's MOVE the Surfer/Supes discussion here. You guys wanna debate about Surfer vs Supes, pls do it here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=467844&pagenumber=300#post13222620

Back to the topic:

Skrullie is the real issue here. Far more durable than any of the JLA team can handle, unique power may override BFR and immunity to Psi. What's team JLA gonna do?

Woah I forgot I was debating in this thread, and now there are like ten pages more pages! I don't even want to read through that.

But I must. 😎

Originally posted by moonknight11
Woah I forgot I was debating in this thread, and now there are like ten pages more pages! I don't even want to read through that.

But I must. 😎

Originally posted by 753
Yes it is, his momentum is infinite, the inertia cancelling spell takes care of the problem of resisting force greater his own his strengh and Cytorrak can transfer him an infinite amount of energy from his dimension. I believe the speed steal would slow him down, but never stop him. He might be able to fry or crush the flash with invisible force-fields while he's at it too.

My take would be that he'd win by EVENTUALLY getting the Flash tired as Flash doesn't have infinite stamina. Might take a long long time, but it'll happen.

That or he can leave razor sharp invisible force field daggers in the battlefield for Flash to accidentally run into and cut himself in half.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Back to the topic:

Skrullie is the real issue here. Far more durable than any of the JLA team can handle, unique power may override BFR and immunity to Psi. What's team JLA gonna do?

silver surfer will be the only one to survive the mind rape by martian manhunter or martain manhunter could put gladiator and super skrull under his control or a scary thought let superman have that gem lol but either way martain manhunter makes this fight easy for the JLA as its everyone on surfur basically

Originally posted by Valtot
silver surfer will be the only one to survive the mind rape by martian manhunter or martain manhunter could put gladiator and super skrull under his control or a scary thought let superman have that gem lol but either way martain manhunter makes this fight easy for the JLA as its everyone on surfur basically

Except for the fact that Skrullie will most prolly be wearing the psi-immunity armor provided by the gem of cyttorak.

ok well still theres a fully confident gladiator on there side thanks to mind control and flash could just speed steal skrull frozen than everyone on surfur and maybe superman takes the gem and becomes uber unstoppable

Originally posted by Valtot
ok well still theres a fully confident gladiator on there side thanks to mind control and flash could just speed steal skrull frozen than everyone on surfur and maybe superman takes the gem and becomes uber unstoppable

You don't think Super Skrull's fire is gonna be an issue for MM?

Also, speed steal might not work on Skrullie due to the Cyttorak enchantment. Unstoppable momentum and all that. And there's just no way they're penetrating Skrullie's Juggernaut shielding to get at the gem in the first place.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You don't think Super Skrull's fire is gonna be an issue for MM?

Also, speed steal might not work on Skrullie due to the Cyttorak enchantment. Unstoppable momentum and all that. And there's just no way they're penetrating Skrullie's Juggernaut shielding to get at the gem in the first place.

why do people keep saying that, as if Cain has never been stopped before, imo the speed force is > celestial tech/ physical force...........one SuperS is out the way the battle goes quickly.

Martian manhunter lost his fire weakness didnt he and yes theres nothing stopping flash from stealing all the speed from juggernaught

Originally posted by Valtot
Martian manhunter lost his fire weakness didnt he and yes theres nothing stopping flash from stealing all the speed from juggernaught

Originally posted by Sin I AM
why do people keep saying that, as if Cain has never been stopped before, imo the speed force is > celestial tech/ physical force...........one SuperS is out the way the battle goes quickly.

It's arguable either way. S'why it's "may" and not

I disagree that the: Speed force > Celestial tech. Also, n instances where juggs have been "stopped" it was due to PIS-y Celestial tech TRIPPING him or due to some massive power output (godblast).

Has Wally ever speed stolen thru a Force Field before?

Originally posted by Hitman911
Exept for the fact that he cant see him....

Invisible, flying, force field and Cyttorak enchantment might prevent it or at least compensate for it.

And don't know why ppl throw the "Speed Steal" argument everytime Flash is used. It's not as if he uses it every single time he encounters an enemy. CIP/CIS is still in play, u know.

Originally posted by Valtot
Martian manhunter lost his fire weakness

When did this happen?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

When did this happen?

It never happened... that weakness is still there.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Has Wally ever speed stolen thru a Force Field before?

Well he's stolen it from a speed force user as well as an entire planet. I can't really see it deterring him. Have the force fields ever stopped an attack like that?

Originally posted by Sirius77
Well he's stolen it from a speed force user as well as an entire planet. I can't really see it deterring him. Have the force fields ever stopped an attack like that?

Seeing as this is a cross-comic universe battle and force fields are more common in both universes than speed steal powers, one would think the burden of proving whether or not it would work would fall on then side where BOTH force fields and speed steal powers exist, don't you think?

So, basically, he's never speed stolen thru a force field before? Well, that makes the whole attack questionable in viability, doesn't it?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Seeing as this is a cross-comic universe battle and force fields are more common in both universes than speed steal powers, one would think the burden of proving whether or not it would work would fall on then side where BOTH force fields and speed steal powers exist, don't you think?

So, basically, he's never speed stolen thru a force field before? Well, that makes the whole attack questionable in viability, doesn't it?

I dunno if he can steal power from an entire planet he should be able to do it to a forcefield, can he do it to a mystical force field though?