Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"Good possibility" says you. "Ridiculously forced speculation" says I.
Lawlz.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Right, apparently the one thing that was oh so important to Odin's beatdown happened to fall out without Doom even noticing. .
I already told you: Doom was mad with power, insane blah blah blah. You know this.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You can continue with your "on average" qualification and make yourself feel better. I don't care enough to dispute it. And it doesn't change that Galactus > Odin.
K.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I do not understand why you wholly rely on a Death God's "contractual power" when it's actually disproven on-panel. Or that you ignore that Mephisto's highest on-panel feats >>>>>>>>> Hela's highest on-panel feats. Or that even granting Hela's non-feat as an argument, you ignore that Mephisto's feat wasn't a consequence of a contractual breaking wiping out past events, but a contractual undertaking wiping out past events.
Scans? When was the scene with Dani or the Mephisto/Parker deal disproven?
I’m not ignoring anything. I’m telling you that Mephisto’s warping of OMD was because high end demons gain a lot of power from deals. It was one of the justifications for why Mephisto could do what he did when his long history points to it being outside of his accessible power.
Can you not read? Contractual agreements apparently grant higher end demons like Mephisto and Hela (Who I would have argued to be nigh equals in at least combined forces if not individual might) a lot of power when necessary. Quesada and/or Breevort touched on this in the past -for whatever it's worth- and now it's just established in continuity. I do not understand why you have trouble accepting that.
And we’re judging character’s purely by feats know? K. I’ll remember that next time we have a discussion regarding Odin.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Domination Factor was as much about time-travelling alteration of events and convenient nexus of mystical/physical planes of existence as it was about the magical macguffin golden apple of Idunn. The cause and the resolution of the time rewrite. We both know this.
I actually read the story. Trying to spin it like that won’t work with me.
The only event altered was the destruction of the apple. The Fantastic Four and the Avengers went back in time to retrieve the eight individual pieces of the apple. That was made clear:
Once Doctor Strange (Actually Loki) received the apple, reality was warped:
As Loki explained, it was the apple that allowed him to reshape Midgard:
It was even said that Odin imbued it with the power to establish Midgard as her kingdom:
First the Mephisto-Odin-soul-shroud comment and now this. I didn’t think you were one to spin shit.
I am disappoint.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
We also both know that the other Asgard and Asgardians were pale reflections of true Asgard and the true Asgardians. That's still not retconning history.
They weren't as powerful but they were still Gods. At least their Thor was. Balder came off weak though.
Creating an entire dimension full of its own twisted incarnations of Asgard is as impressive as wiping out records of Parker’s face.
^ Horsecrap on about every single level. I'm not spinning sh1t.
First, Domination Factor. I haven't read it in a while, but I did read it. Everything that the apple did of consequence involved the timestream. Fact: the whole adventure started because the Golden Apple froze the timestream when it was split apart. Fact: present-day Earth was only warped after Thor was offed in the far past and the Golden Apple was reunited and its power activated within the nexus of mystical/physical planes of existence. Fact: everything was restored when Knorda used the Golden Apple again to undo all those time travel shenanigans, particularly Loki leading Thor to his death in the past, with more time-travel shenanigans.
I'm not saying that the reality rewrite was simply a Back to the Future rip-off, but my statement stands: "Domination Factor was as much about time-travelling alteration of events and convenient nexus of mystical/physical planes of existence as it was about the magical macguffin golden apple of Idunn."
Concerning the conflation of Mephisto's power with his contractual agreements, you've missed the point entirely or are ignoring it. Death God contractual agreements have been broken and directly thwarted in the past. Retcons didn't happen every time. In fact, it hasn't even happened once on-panel. So, no, I'm not going to conclude Hela and Mephisto are equals because Hela threatened a non-feat. All you're basically trying to do is project all retcon power into the Death God contract itself. You're putting the cart before the horse.
Spiderman's retcon wasn't a retcon feat performed by a broken Death God contract. Spiderman's retcon was a retcon feat performed by Mephisto in order to create a binding Death God contract. Mephisto didn't rely on the retcon power of a broken Death Contract to do what he did. Any suggestion to the contrary is absurd. I'm done arguing this false cause fallacy.
Finally, Odin making sh1tty versions of Asgard and Asgardians isn't retconning Marvel Earth history.
Enough with this nonsense.
^ Seriously, step off your faulty reliance on Mephisto's anger over being beaten at his own game with superior gamesmanship. That is not an indication that Thanos is more powerful than Mephisto.
Mephisto's power already stalemated Galactus who anally-raped Thanos. Thanos isn't retconning Marvel Earth unless he has THOTU or the IG. So think for a second about what scope of power Mephisto operates on, even when he limits his engagement to limited schemes.
Or don't.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Seriously, step off your faulty reliance on Mephisto's anger over being beaten at his own game with superior gamesmanship. That is not an indication that Thanos is more powerful than Mephisto.Mephisto's power already stalemated Galactus who anally-raped Thanos. Thanos isn't retconning Marvel Earth unless he has THOTU or the IG. So think for a second about what scope of power Mephisto operates on, even when he limits his engagement to limited schemes.
Or don't.
That was Mephisto in his own realm, and even then Galactus was about to consume that b!tch and Mephisto blinked.
Outside his realm, he's a pxxsy as those scans show. Or do you think Thanos would turn his back like that on an enraged Ymir?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Outside his realm he retconned Marvel Earth. And Thanos has walked away from confrontations, doesn't make him a pu$$y either. So seriously, stop embarassing yourself.
No trust me, he's a pxxsy. Here is plain old Thor kicking his teeth in, in his own realm :
That's not King Thor, Rune King Thor or Odin empowered Thor, that's just Thor. Notice how Mephisto even admits if Thor wanted to stay in his realm and continue the fight, it would be a stalemate forever.
Compare that to how Ymir treated Thor on Earth :
To add insult to injury, someone said that this was Odinforce powered Thor, don't know and can't confirm but maybe someone else can. But even if it's just plain Thor, Ymir did better against him than Mephisto even with Mephisto being in his own realm.
^ Two options: (i) you're just that dumb to believe that Mephisto isn't that powerful, or (ii) you're trolling.
Galactus was just about matching Mephisto in his realm. Instead of understanding this, you show scans of Thor batting around Mephisto. I suppose your purpose is to somehow diminish the idea that Mephisto is powerful in his realm. If you're trying to sincerely present that (without its context) as evidence at its face value of that proposition, then you believe Thor > Galactus now. Since Thor dealt with Mephisto easier than Galactus did.
(i) After all, you're being completely sincere now and not just being an utter troll. Sorry, but you're uninformed, mistaken and mentally deficient. (ii) Alternatively, to the extent that you want to pretend to be informed, you're a troll.
(i) So thanks for wasting our time for being that r-tard about this. (ii) Or (as you guessed it), thank you for so quickly taking a precipitious dive into blatant trollery lowballing. After all, we didn't waste any further time engaging in sincere discourse that would have otherwise fallen on a deaf pair of ears, or a blind pair of eyes.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Two options: [b](i) you're just that dumb to believe that Mephisto isn't that powerful, or (ii) you're trolling.Galactus was just about matching Mephisto in his realm. Instead of understanding this, you show scans of Thor batting around Mephisto. I suppose your purpose is to somehow diminish the idea that Mephisto is powerful in his realm. If you're trying to sincerely present that (without its context) as evidence at its face value of that proposition, then you believe Thor > Galactus now. Since Thor dealt with Mephisto easier than Galactus did.
(i) After all, you're being completely sincere now and not just being an utter troll. Sorry, but you're uninformed, mistaken and mentally deficient. (ii) Alternatively, to the extent that you want to pretend to be informed, you're a troll.
(i) So thanks for wasting our time for being that r-tard about this. (ii) Or (as you guessed it), thank you for so quickly taking a precipitious dive into blatant trollery lowballing. After all, we didn't waste any further time engaging in sincere discourse that would have otherwise fallen on a deaf pair of ears, or a blind pair of eyes. [/B]
Wow nice job getting personal over a fuggin' comic. Fact is Thor humiliated Mephisto in his realm. It's right there on panel. Galactus stalemated him and that is also on panel. The thing is, which of these two fights is the aberration and which is the norm.
If I'm not mistaken, Thor has taken it to Mephisto multiple times in his own realm with results similar to the above scans. Mephisto admitted it himself that he couldn't put Thor down and Thor likewise couldn't put him down.
I also need to see which was the more recent encounter. I'll check that later.
^ I call it how I see it.
Mephisto can't extinguish Thor's fighting spirit and possess his soul. Posession of his soul requires that Mephisto not outright kill him, otherwise his soul is lost to him.
Mephisto fighting Galactus (who has no soul) is not an aberration. Neither is Mephisto getting smacked around by heroes who are literally as fleas to him in his realm. That's not an aberration either. Because that's the game he plays. It's not an indication of limitations in power.
Originally posted by Omega Vision👆 this is indeed a huge load of crap. G has been shown time and again to be on par or above the celestials, he's an abstract. odin is a skyfahter. there were none of them at the fault holding the cancerverse at bay during thanos imperative. why? cause they dont have what it takes. people should stop clinging on to the 70s
Lol at more of this Odin=Galactus bullshit.
Mephisto wins
