Originally posted by zeel
darkseid gets F###### smoked. he has issues with supes and orion.
In his original herald form, Orion was nothing to DS.
Orion in his amped SOUL form
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They stalemated and Orion killed DS later on still being amped in Countdown AFTER DS still put up a good fight.
Looks to me like DS is far beyond Regular Orion or Superman. Orion=>Superman.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
In his original herald form, Orion was nothing to DS.They stalemated and Orion killed DS later on still being amped in Countdown AFTER DS still put up a good fight.
Looks to me like DS is far beyond Regular Orion or Superman. Orion=>Superman.
Wasn't impressed by the first.
IIRC, Darkseid was amped by the soul of the New Gods and Orion was amped by the Source in that battle, which ended in a stalemate. Orion then killed him in the final battle.
Certainly not based on the fights I've seen.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusOrion Killed DS after DS amped Himself and still put up a fight against the Source amped Orion. Remember, DS lost his amp in Countdown and had to self amp. That means that he is still far more powerful than Regular Orion or Superman. And he did KO Orion with no effort at all.
Wasn't impressed by the first.IIRC, Darkseid was amped by the soul of the New Gods and Orion was amped by the Source in that battle, which ended in a stalemate. Orion then killed him in the final battle.
Certainly not based on the fights I've seen.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHere we see DS self amping and fighting the still amped Orion while He himself has lost the New Gods amp due to the Atom destroying it.
Wasn't impressed by the first.IIRC, Darkseid was amped by the soul of the New Gods and Orion was amped by the Source in that battle, which ended in a stalemate. Orion then killed him in the final battle.
Certainly not based on the fights I've seen.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Orion Killed DS after DS amped Himself and still put up a fight against the Source amped Orion. Remember, DS lost his amp in Countdown and had to self amp. That means that he is still far more powerful than Regular Orion or Superman. And he did KO Orion with no effort at all.
Hold on, so you're saying that Darkseid lost the New God amp, but Orion kept the Source amp? In it's entirety? Can anyone confirm this? I don't remember it. All I remember was the brief struggle, and Orion ripping his heart out.
Darkseid really isn't much more powerful than Orion or Superman. That's silly. IIRC, Darkseid admitted that Superman was his physical match or some such even in the Death of the New Gods mini which is where the scans came from. It was during the Orion/Superman struggle I believe.
Which scene? Orion definitely has some low end feats for a guy of his level though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSuperman being a physical Match does not equal power does it? Thor is stronger than Odin. even Odin has said that. But Odin would ***** Thor in a dual of powers.
Hold on, so you're saying that Darkseid lost the New God amp, but Orion kept the Source amp? In it's entirety? Can anyone confirm this? I don't remember it. All I remember was the brief struggle, and Orion ripping his heart out.Darkseid really isn't much more powerful than Orion or Superman. That's silly. IIRC, Darkseid admitted that Superman was his physical match or some such even in the Death of the New Gods mini which is where the scans came from. It was during the Orion/Superman struggle I believe.
Which scene? Orion definitely has some low end feats for a guy of his level though.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Superman being a physical Match does not equal power does it? Thor is stronger than Odin. even Odin has said that. But Odin would ***** Thor in a dual of powers.
Point, there's a distinction between power and physical might, but Superman has faced a Darkseid using his raw power, and has held his own. Superman's tanked his ultimate trump card how many times now, 4?
Originally posted by Silent MasterThis is after Apok now
Current version has beaten Superman? cool.Please post the scans.
This is also after Apok now. Look at what Superman says.
Darkseid could have killed Superman here if he wanted to.
I could post more but it's pretty obvious DS is far superior to Superman.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSuperman has never been tossed into time by DS. Or had his power ripped out of him like Firestorm. Superman has never been erased or attempted to be erased by DS. And Superman has never beaten without plot.
Point, there's a distinction between power and physical might, but Superman has faced a Darkseid using his raw power, and has held his own. Superman's tanked his ultimate trump card how many times now, 4?
I don't understand how those scans prove your point.
In the first scene, Darkseid managed to temporarily down Clark with a direct blast from his Omega power. Do you want me to post the entire fight? Hint: It doesn't prove what you want it to.
I only vaguely recall the second scene but I believe the demons weren't created by Darkseid's own power. So yea.
The third scene was a noticeably weaker Superman who tanked Darkseid's ultimate weapon and IIRC, stood his ground.