Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Apokolips Now.I think this constitutes a mod ruling. Or at least the opinion of one of the people I would consider a Superman expert on here.
Originally posted by TricksterPriesttrust me, i'd like to forget a lot of arcs but we just can't go around omitting canon material, especially when without some sort of mutual understanding involving a good number of board members
Have you read Apokolips Now? 😕
a similar thing like that was floating around for awhile was omitting oldchool marvel character feats cause portrayals are different. the counter argument/logic was that marvel suffered no reboot/three-boot (lol) and the feats and histories are still intact (minus spider-man), moslty revisited via memories, or simply the feat being replicated in modern times therefore kicking the motion in the ball sack.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestRock of Ages was nothing more than another version of Final Crisis and Seven Soldiers. When Metron Infers that things happen simultaneously across time lines and realities, Grant proves it. Darkseid Kills Batman in ROA and he does the same in Final Crisis. The 3 three stories are connected in many many ways. All Canon to not only the New Gods as there is only one set of them in myriad Dimensions, but the JLA also have the ROA in their Database as a mission.
I challenge you to a battlezone. You have to prove Rock of Ages isn't canon, along with what it infers about their true nature. Prove it's a what-if on your side, I'll prove it isn't.
Originally posted by Comics Queen
Rock of Ages was nothing more than another version of Final Crisis and Seven Soldiers. When Metron Infers that things happen simultaneously across time lines and realities, Grant proves it. Darkseid Kills Batman in ROA and he does the same in Final Crisis. The 3 three stories are connected in many many ways. All Canon to not only the New Gods as there is only one set of them in myriad Dimensions, but the JLA also have the ROA in their Database as a mission.
I appreciate what you are doing. And I'm glad someone else gets it. 🙂 But please, allow me. This is my fight. I wish to defeat Kandy and his brethren myself.
That being said, I need a certain scan.
“In the game of the gods, Creation itself is the playing field. Sometimes Darkseid wins, sometimes we win. Each time, the universe is remade, as you have witnessed. In the end, balance is served” (JLA #15, 1998: Epilogue to Rock of Ages).
I need the scan where Metron says this. It's right near the end of Rock of Ages.
Originally posted by Comics QueenThey fought at the end of imperiex where they stalemated.
I don't recall them. Please post them so I can reference them.
They fought in superman/batman twice in which Superman held his own. Superman bfr'd him, a slew of parademons and henchmen easily in his own comic, he held his own in countdown until seid used olsen's power battery to turn himself into k-nite.
That's just off the top of my head.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They fought at the end of imperiex where they stalemated.They fought in superman/batman twice in which Superman held his own. Superman bfr'd him, a slew of parademons and henchmen easily in his own comic, he held his own in countdown until seid used olsen's power battery to turn himself into k-nite.
That's just off the top of my head.
I remember in Superman Batman when Superman was getting his ass kicked and was about to die when Wonder Woman had to intervene and save his ass. That isn't a stalemate. Superman had help.
After Imperiex? You mean after DS had used up most of his power helping to destroy the Universe destroying abstract being? And DS still was beating Superman's ass, weakened and all.
In Countdown, DS was fighting the uber amped Jimmy Olsen. Thus amping himself to keep up with the powers of Thousands of Gods. Then fighting Superman.
I need something more concrete. Something were Superman has no outside help, DS hasn't shot himself in the face, and he hasn't used up his energies fighting abstract level beings.
Ready, Get Set, Go......
Originally posted by Comics QueenThere was a plan in place and Darkseid has used parademons/shadow ones as well to aid him so I think turn about is fair play.
I remember in Superman Batman when Superman was getting his ass kicked and was about to die when Wonder Woman had to intervene and save his ass. That isn't a stalemate. Superman had help.After Imperiex? You mean after DS had used up most of his power helping to destroy the Universe destroying abstract being? And DS still was beating Superman's ass, weakened and all.
In Countdown, DS was fighting the uber amped Jimmy Olsen. Thus amping himself to keep up with the powers of Thousands of Gods. Then fighting Superman.
I need something more concrete. Something were Superman has no outside help, DS hasn't shot himself in the face, and he hasn't used up his energies fighting abstract level beings.
Ready, Get Set, Go......
Superman had used a lot of energy in that arc as well but I guess it only matters for Ds and when was it ever mentioned either character was weakened at the time of this brawl.
Ds fought Superman before Olsen. LOL.
I corrected your context and gave more than these examples which you completely hyped in favor of Darkseid. Shocker. Some things don't change.