The first probe was *hard* for both Superman and Mongul Jr. to take out working together.
The Titans probe was taken out in a one-on-one battle with Superman, but not easily.
The JLA probe took out Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern (with no weakness exploitation, just energy blasts) with Flash and Wonder Woman supporting them, then WW killed it with some backlash damage hurting her.
Another probe was killed by pretty much just Hippolyta in a hard fight.
Superman and DD killed 4, I think.
Oh yea, another big thing- it took the heroes awhile to realize breaching the armor with a piercing or cutting attack, preferably at a joint, was a big thing. Impacts and energy blasts don't do a lot to even the weaker probes. If the Annihilators don't know that going in, they're likely to waste a fair amount of effort.
Between detonation damage and not knowing the piercing thing off the bat (it's not common knowledge), even if it's, say, 2 JLA probes, two 'about even with Superman,' and 8 normal probes, I'd give it to the Probes.
The detonation damage really is a big thing, even the herald levels who took it and were able to return to the fight later (which I think is just Diana and Superman) were hurt by them.
Originally posted by Q99Expand. The probes were never once throughout the arc, by either of the plethora of characters confronting them, pointed out to be at different powerlevel. But I'm sure I'm misremembering - care to point me to where it's stated?
If something fights at different levels
Originally posted by StyleTimeIt's because I'm one of the few who has actually read the arc. Kurupt Thanosi is probably still desperatley searching on google for the answer to my question, while sobbing. You're free to jump in when you have any kind of contribution to the discussion, though.
Or the between those who think they have varying power levels and Philosophia.vin
HaHaHa you're a funny guy Philo. The answer to your question backs up your stance about them being the same power level, being that there creation was the same. However, my contention is that they seemed to vary in power considering how different people did again them. I don't think there is much disputing that either. Therefore, with your stance being correct from a creational viewpoint, there isn't much to say or debate about. You can always refer to how they were created and always refer to there never being a mention of them varying in power levels.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm one of the few who has actually read the arc.You're free to jump in when you have any kind of contribution to the discussion, though.
It's so much easier to joke around and just thumbs up someone else's post though. 😛
Personally, I think they displayed varying capabilities. One one hand, we see Aquaman take a probe by himself in Atlantis. Superman one shotted a couple with heat vision, spin attacks, and super ramming when he was teamed with Doomsday. Black Lightning took out one, although he was amped if I recall correctly, after stalemating it with Supergirl for a time.
On the other hand, the probe Superman fought before Supergirl withstood the attacks that no sold other probes plus more before dropping. Another probe (may have been 2) get the better of the JLA, including Aquaman. The one Superman fought over Africa seemed to be even with him.
If you're looking for a statement, I doubt you'll change your mind anytime soon. I don't remember them mentioning it in the story.