Annihilators vs 12 Imperiex Probes

Originally posted by carver9
This isn't about Superman, what I am saying is that the probes were inconsistent. Diana mother took out 2 probes with a ship to the head... inconsistent.

Black Lightning took out a probe with a small bomb... inconsistent.

Aquaman took out a probe but the entire JLA/JSA\Titans struggled to take out a single probe.

Diana along with the jla almost died facing two probes but again, Black lightning can take out one along with Dianas mother.

I agree, there is no way to argue against what you posted but there is no way to argue against my above post.

Black Lightning had himself, a nuke (built with B13 tech) and Supergirl helping him.

Aquaman had an insane amount of magic.

No, they couldn't. Your twisting things.

Actually yes, there is, because you're twisting what happened on panel.

Any inconsistencies the probes had doesn't take away from their average, which was established as being herald level.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Black Lightning had himself, a nuke (built with B13 tech) and Supergirl helping him.

Aquaman had an insane amount of magic.

No, they couldn't. Your twisting things.

Actually yes, there is, because you're twisting what happened on panel.

Any inconsistencies the probes had doesn't take away from their average, which was established as being herald level.

I agree... they "are" Herald level but I just think they were inconsistent.

Pr, we are not getting anywhere with this... we are going back and forth with the same thing.

Aquaman, even amped can't generate more power than the entire jla.

Diana mother can't generate more power on a physical level than the Jla.

I'm going to leave it be though because we are not getting anywhere.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree... they "are" Herald level but I just think they were inconsistent.

Pr, we are not getting anywhere with this... we are going back and forth with the same thing.

Aquaman, even amped can't generate more power than the entire jla.

Diana mother can't generate more power on a physical level than the Jla.

I'm going to leave it be though because we are not getting anywhere.

Nobody said he could generate more power than the JLA. Nobody said the probes could either.

The probes' strength isn't the same as their durability. That should be obvious.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nobody said he could generate more power than the JLA. Nobody said the probes could either.

The probes' strength isn't the same as their durability. That should be obvious.

That's what I am getting at though.

A GL was shooting it, flash, wonder woman punching it, martian manhunter, etc, etc... and did nothing to it. The only time something is done is when Diana sneak attack one to the back of the head but yet aquaman takes one out with a blast and a stab.

Let's not get to Diana mother... if the probes were as powerful as people are placing them, she had no right taking one, two, or three out.

Originally posted by carver9
That's what I am getting at though.

A GL was shooting it, flash, wonder woman punching it, martian manhunter, etc, etc... and did nothing to it. The only time something is done is when Diana sneak attack one to the back of the head but yet aquaman takes one out with a blast and a stab.

Let's not get to Diana mother... if the probes were as powerful as people are placing them, she had no right taking one, two, or three out.

aquaman with his armour and his trident underwater is herald level, with an insane magical boost.

the JLA were fighting multiple probes, not just one. martian manhunter was taken down off panel by a probe that we didn't even see. aquaman and diana were fighting one (and in space, aquaman with no staff isn't going to be that useful anyway). the one that zapped flash had been fighting plastic man of all people.

flash didn't punch any probes. kyle's shield was already close to breaking when we saw him fighting alongside wally. they were in a long battle; we just saw the end of it.

the jla were fighting MULTIPLE PROBES, just to be clear.

carver, you're one of many people who've been quick to point out the difference between blunt damage and piercing damage.

what ship are you talking about with Hyppolita?

Bump

Philo.. You don't know how proud I am bro...*sniff*..

Lol. Carver has always been like this, I see.

There is some truth to what Carver said.

It's pretty much a law of the universe at this point that when minion gets introduced, their power will be much greater at that point than by the end or climax of story. With that said, I'd say Imperiex Probes were the ones that stayed pretty consistent.

The average easily lands them on herald level. Superman was amped up for this event/arc just because he DC's main go to guy. Superman beating on dozens of probes doesn't take away from their power bur just goes to show that Superman was that much stronger than the other members of JLA.

I'd say the 12 probes can beat the Annihilators

Every single Annihilator would be an underdog 1v1 against a Probe. I'd give Bill the best chance of getting a win because his hammer is best positioned to exploit the one Probe weakness: brittleness. But he'd still be an underdog.

So unless the Annihilators can find some way to synergize their powers, they are in deep trouble here. They are going to get destroyed. They'd be underdogs against 4 Probes.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I've already posted scans which contradict several of your points, rendering them invalid, so yes, I did.

You didn't prove your own argument right at all, though. You didn't back up any part of it. You said Superman was knocked out when he wasn't (and didn't back it up with scans), and you said that Krypto's fight was off-panel (which it wasn't). And he didn't stalemate the Probe.

Hyppolita (sp?) was already inside the atmosphere when she pulled the head off of the Probe. She had already proven herself able to withstand the heat of re-entry to a point.

Are you going to post proof or aren't you?

We are still waiting.

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Those were the days.