Theoretical feats contest

Started by TricksterPriest11 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i guess, ultraman lifted it solo, but dwelling on these types of feats is pointless. superman has better lifting/strength feats that are more applicable to "normal" situations.

if the book is or is not infinite in mass, it doesn't change the fact that superman is one of the strongest beings in comics. i could personally forget it even happened.

sure, but then that same book is also the same size as an encyclopedia brittanica tome, with all of it's special qualities being due to magic.

kinda like oh idunno....the rock of eternity 🙂

Might I point out that Superman and Wonder Woman both supported Spectre's weight, which was called the weight of eternity.

You can't have it both ways dude. 😇

and yet they needed a third to help them with the earth

do you not see the issues you're bringing up?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Might I point out that Superman and Wonder Woman both supported Spectre's weight, which was called the weight of eternity.

You can't have it both ways dude. 😇

How much does eternity weigh?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Iron-man vs Superman = Iron-man wins, because he's invincible.

Except for the fact that he's been beaten before on panel. On panel, the book was said to contain infinite pages (thus being infinitely heavy). Unless you can provide a scan showing that this was just hyperbole (ie the book does NOT have infinite pages) or a scan showing a retcon of this feat, you got nothing.

The book had infinite pages and hence INFINITE weight. There is NO strength feat that anyone could come up with that's gonna top lifting "half" of an item with infinite weight.

Originally posted by Mindset
How much does eternity weigh?

The weight of "eternity" is debatable. The weight of an object with INFINITE pages really isn't, it's INFINITELY heavy.

what if the pages are weightless? for that matter, there are many situations where you can add up an "infinite" number of things and get a finite answer (in fact, that's the entire premise behind calculus).

Originally posted by King Kandy
what if the pages are weightless?

Then why need CM's help in lifting it? Why struggle with it's weight at all?

Originally posted by King Kandy
what if the pages are weightless?

Then why would they be struggling?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Then why would they be struggling?

Jinx! 😛

Originally posted by zopzop
Then why need CM's help in lifting it? Why struggle with it's weight at all?

yeah, i edited my post because i realized that... still, infinite # of things does not automatically mean the sum of them all is infinite.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i guess, ultraman lifted it solo, but dwelling on these types of feats is pointless. superman has better lifting/strength feats that are more applicable to "normal" situations.

if the book is or is not infinite in mass, it doesn't change the fact that superman is one of the strongest beings in comics. i could personally forget it even happened.

same. He has better feats like you said.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Then why would they be struggling?

what do you mean "they"?

Originally posted by zopzop
Then why need CM's help in lifting it? Why struggle with it's weight at all?
hopefully you are seeing how fuktarded this all is

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Might I point out that Superman and Wonder Woman both supported Spectre's weight, which was called the weight of eternity.

You can't have it both ways dude. 😇

No, it wasn't.

Originally posted by zopzop
Except for the fact that he's been beaten before on panel. On panel, the book was said to contain infinite pages (thus being infinitely heavy). Unless you can provide a scan showing that this was just hyperbole (ie the book does NOT have infinite pages) or a scan showing a retcon of this feat, you got nothing.

The book had infinite pages and hence INFINITE weight. There is NO strength feat that anyone could come up with that's gonna top lifting "half" of an item with infinite weight.

And Superman has failed on panel with weight that was far less than infinite.

This thread is obviously a massive bait thread for sure.

As for the answers considering what these characters are able to do when going all out. I'm not going to answer for Thanos but for Thor and Surfer.

Let's be honest there isn't anything those two can't do that any other high herald flagship powerhouse character could do if the writer wanted to.

That's why I generally put High Herald characters at slight majorities over each other and mostly based on intuition and often times powerset (at this level I think the more you bring to the table the better your odds are gonna be). Unless there are obvious large discrepancies in certain power areas or there are large weaknesses that can be exploited. For instance I think Green Lanterns will always struggle against brawler-Superman level type characters because its been shown enough that Green Lanterns have a hard time with them such that I believe there is a large physical power discrepancy between them that a Superman/Gladiator/Thor can exploit for a healthy majority.

Most of the time when I give a character this high in power a nod in a category over another character in same power level it's most often a gut feeling unless that character is a role character. For instance I'll never give anyone in high herald a nod over Flash in speed, or give anyone a nod against Superman as a brawler, or give anyone a nod over Surfer in versatility not even a Green Lantern.

It's just there things that they are known to do. I'm not saying they can not be given a run for the money but I'll never give anyone a nod over them.

As for the fact that feats get taken one way for certain characters tend to be based on what the character is most known for. When the chips are down Superman is more likely to pound and out-muscle and out-speed something while Thor will be more likely to let the raw power fly to get the job done. While Flash is more likely to use his speed to get something finished Surfer is more likely to pull out exotic abilities that only he can pull off. Which is why feats for certain characters in certain areas will be rarer then it will be for others.

Which is why we know for a fact Thor can brawl a villain into submission and Surfer can take a beating and speed around and be fast, to know they can and it is within their powerset to do so.

So that is my reply to this obvious thread designed to try to enforce one person's biased perceptive need to make their own favorite such and such power character appear that much better than another high end ridiculously overpowered character or because they dislike such and such character to the point they want to downplay such and such character as much as possible.

When in reality you are dealing with such over-powered characters that there is really hardly anything they can not pull off if needed be.

So to make this reply short. In order to do any of the following you described in this thread you need to be able to produce feats greater than anything a High Herald can do unless you are talking about by the slightest margins.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Book said infinite pages, not a big stretch to assume infinite weight. srug Superman Beyond was pretty insane to being with though.
why is that? it didnt have infinte volume and we know for a fact that superman cant exert infinite force and that there are stronger characters.

I'm really not sure how these situations and theoreticals apply to Thanos. How can you gauge what it would take in strength using lifting feats as evidence.. when Thanos has no lifting feats. Thus, how can any comparison be made as we have no clue where the bar is for Thanos. Thor okay, he's a hero so he'll have such feats.. Thanos doesn't, so I fail to see how a comparison can be made in terms of strength.

Originally posted by -Pr-
same. He has better feats like you said.

what do you mean "they"?


Cap and Superman.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Cap and Superman.

😐

Originally posted by -Pr-
😐

ka-dur

Originally posted by -Pr-
Except that iirc, it wasn't stated that Superman couldn't lift it alone. Just because Billy lifted it too, doesn't mean that Superman couldn't do it by himself.

iirc Superman only asks Billy to help him before he even tries to lift it.

It has been a while since I read it though, so if I'm mistaken, then fair enough.

But Ultraman seemed to lift it by himself, which either means Ultraman>>>>superman in the arc where they were portrayed as equal (I mean didn't the big blue guy (can never remember his name) say they were to halves of the same whole?) or it only takes superman level strength to lift it.