Originally posted by Omega Vision
So basically anyone who isn't a Marvel Zombie says Cass?Cool.
It has nothing do with that. Heres the question why on earth would we think that Batgirl is superior to Daredevil, Daken, Alyosha Kravinoff and Deadpool? I'm confused isn't that a reasonable question?
Why would we think that Cass can dodge Punisher when hes shot the likes of Spiderman, Daredevil and Sabretooth?
All the evidence that has been provided is of her doing things that any street level can do, hell one feat had been done by Punisher himself. You haven't provided any proof or made a counter argument you just assume you know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Deadline
It has nothing do with that. Heres the question why on earth would we think that Batgirl is superior to Daredevil, Daken, Alyosha Kravinoff and Deadpool? I'm confused isn't that a reasonable question?Why would we think that Cass can dodge Punisher when hes shot the likes of Spiderman, Daredevil and Sabretooth?
All the evidence that has been provided is of her doing things that any street level can do, hell one feat had been done by Punisher himself. You haven't provided any proof or made a counter argument you just assume you know what you're talking about.
in any rational analysis of what should happen between these two, Punisher comes out on top everytime
in comics, where streets can do things like this:
Originally posted by Q99
David Cain trained her by shooting at her head with a sniper rifle while blindfolded (her blindfolded, not him).
cass wins
so, cass wins, but only because writers are hacks
Originally posted by inimalist
in any rational analysis of what should happen between these two, Punisher comes out on top everytimein comics, where streets can do things like this:
cass wins
so, cass wins, but only because writers are hacks
To paraphrase a certain movie: he doesn't have guns, he has bullets and the hope that when they're all gone Cass won't be still standing. 😛
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because Punny has guns?To paraphrase a certain movie: he doesn't have guns, he has bullets and the hope that when they're all gone Cass won't be still standing. 😛
i don't get the reference
but generally, yes, and huge amounts of tactical training. anything larger than a pistol should tear her to shreds from far further than she could do anything before she could respond. That bullets travel at 1/1000th their speed when shot at a hero is the only thing that saves her life in this conflict. A city gives her some cover, but it also gives Frank choke points and height.
I suppose it depends on what he is carrying, but basic equip for Frank is generally an AR of some kind. idk, cass could have that "deflects sniper bullets" helmet that Batman apparently has, but iirc she isn't bulletproof
Originally posted by inimalist
i don't get the referencebut generally, yes, and huge amounts of tactical training. anything larger than a pistol should tear her to shreds from far further than she could do anything before she could respond. That bullets travel at 1/1000th their speed when shot at a hero is the only thing that saves her life in this conflict. A city gives her some cover, but it also gives Frank choke points and height.
I suppose it depends on what he is carrying, but basic equip for Frank is generally an AR of some kind. idk, cass could have that "deflects sniper bullets" helmet that Batman apparently has, but iirc she isn't bulletproof
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why does she have to be superior to those people to beat Frank if they've all beaten Frank?
None of those guys have beaten Pun for the majority and some of them are more dangerous than Cassie. Daken killed pun but he had:
1. A broken leg
2. Gashes on his back that hadn't healed
3. He was suicidal.
4. Traumitized collar bone
He did incredibly well to last that long.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
After the events of Frankencastle, Punisher got de-aged about 20 years, and prior to his de-aging he was already good enough to contend with Daredevil in h2h and deliver some of the best street vs street fights in comicdom. Anyone who thinks this isn't a fight is delusional.
Batgirl is far more skilled and can take out Punisher easily once she gets in close. His only chance is a distance attack.
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Originally posted by Richv1
take out Punisher easily
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Daredevil cannot
Captain America cannot
Spider-man cannot
Daken cannot
Frank has fought on even keel with Wolverine, and yet with all that, cassie comes along and does it easily? 🙄
Cassie winning H2H, sure, id buy that, but there's nothing easy about it.
Originally posted by Richv1
Batgirl is far more skilled and can take out Punisher easily once she gets in close. His only chance is a distance attack.Richard Vasseur
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