HOTU vs. The Presence.

Started by Sirius7723 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, so some instances are canon not his series. Laughs.

That was his series. There is only one.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That was his series. There is only one.
Yes, there is only one but not every appearance is canon to the dcu. Didio already stated this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're throwing out claims you can't prove. It's what you've done this entire debate. We know Thanos can absorb supreme power and he has supreme power in this thread. If you want to claim something point at something which backs it up in a comic not just a maybe this might work.

Each company decides what is canon to each company if lucy shows up on the dcu it doesn't make all his lucy comic canon. Wow.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Presence still stomps and it can't even be argued. He is God...what is there to argue? Seriously?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You don't even have a case whatsoever. You are arguing based off of titles alone. You continue to post your opinion which makes no sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't even have a case whatsoever. You are arguing based off of titles alone. You continue to post your opinion which makes no sense.
So your saying HOTU beats someone that is totally omnipotent?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So your saying HOTU beats someone that is totally omnipotent?
When has the presence ever shown himself to be omnipotent ? Also what does that have to do with someone from another verse ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has the presence ever shown himself to be omnipotent ? Also what does that have to do with someone from another verse ?
Presence is the Marvel equivalent of TOAA is he not? And TOAA>HOTU.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Presence is the Marvel equivalent of TOAA is he not? And TOAA>HOTU.
That's always been faulty logic. Nowhere has that ever been proven or even compared. It's a board myth as to placate the dc/marvel fans. That's why these threads don't work because an invisible line in the sand is drawn.

It's this simple Thanos has the means to defeat the presence whereas the presence does not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's always been faulty logic. Nowhere has that ever been proven or even compared. It's a board myth as to placate the dc/marvel fans. That's why these threads don't work because an invisible line in the sand is drawn.

It's this simple Thanos has the means to defeat the presence whereas the presence does not.

How does Thanos have the power to kill God? He doesn't...because you can't.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
How does Thanos have the power to kill God? He doesn't...because you can't.
He absorbs creation which he has shown the power to do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He absorbs creation which he has shown the power to do.
Presence is more than creation.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Presence is more than creation.
The scans have been put up and cronus himself absorbed the power of the presence. Thanos can do so easily. All on panel whereas you don't have a single shred of proof other than your misinformed opinion.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Presence is the Marvel equivalent of TOAA is he not? And TOAA>HOTU.

Um, no.

TOAA is the writers.
Presence is the in-universe creator of DC.

They are not analogous at all. The TOAA analogue is like, when Grant Morrison appeared in Animal Man.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um, no.

TOAA is the writers.
Presence is the in-universe creator of DC.

They are not analogous at all. The TOAA analogue is like, when Grant Morrison appeared in Animal Man.

presence would stomp toaa no?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
presence would stomp toaa no?

Um no... a fictional character would not stomp a real person.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um no... a fictional character would not stomp a real person.
mxy wtf pwned the DC comic book writers and had enough power to destroy our real universe

Regarding Vertigo; as of Brightest Day's current issue, Vertigo appears to canon now. Seeing as how Swamp Thing just walked in as a black lantern. And I believe Constantine has been seen in continuity.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Regarding Vertigo; as of Brightest Day's current issue, Vertigo appears to canon now. Seeing as how Swamp Thing just walked in as a black lantern. And I believe Constantine has been seen in continuity.
That doesn't mean all vertigo titles are now canon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, there is only one but not every appearance is canon to the dcu. Didio already stated this.

You'd need to give me a link. Also, if there is only one series, and the lead from that series appears (among other characters from said series) within the mainstream universe, then it can be logically understood that the series is canon to the mainstream universe. I don't really see how that is disputable tbh.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're throwing out claims you can't prove. It's what you've done this entire debate. We know Thanos can absorb supreme power and he has supreme power in this thread. If you want to claim something point at something which backs it up in a comic not just a maybe this might work.

Each company decides what is canon to each company if lucy shows up on the dcu it doesn't make all his lucy comic canon. Wow.

heres another claim "that cant be proven": Thanos w/THOTI beats the Presence by eating Creation, mainly do to the erroneous application of quoted statement.

Originally posted by quanchi112
As a character they exist but not every showing. With that logic every crossover would count as being canon as well. Lucy's series isn't canon to the dcu. Never has been.

no, but if thats how yur fractured mind wants to view it, have fun then.

as for Lucy, U argue against it as it defeats yur argument on basically every level, so Im not surprised to see it being done........

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, there is only one but not every appearance is canon to the dcu. Didio already stated this.

no, he didnt. AFAIK Didio has never spoken out about the "canon-icity" of a DC-chara's appearance in the V-verse, or the vice-versa happening; if U have a link (or any other piece of info) showing him doing so then plz share.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has the presence ever shown himself to be omnipotent ? Also what does that have to do with someone from another verse ?

and I'll counter-that with "when hasnt he?"

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's this simple Thanos has the means to defeat the presence whereas the presence does not.

no, he hasnt shown that yet. sorry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He absorbs creation which he has shown the power to do.

agreed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans have been put up and cronus himself absorbed the power of the presence. Thanos can do so easily. All on panel whereas you don't have a single shred of proof other than your misinformed opinion.

actually, he attempted to do so but failed in the task, never completing it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean all vertigo titles are now canon.

nobody said that; the point being made was that the V-titles where the DC charas who x'd-over, and the V-charas who've done the same, have done so long enuff that ya really cant say theyre completly separate & inviolate anymore. Swamp Thing, the Doom Patrol, and Animal Man R a big example of that.

and anyways, didnt 1 of the new Earths from _52_ show themselves to have been Vertigo??

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