HOTU vs. The Presence.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There's no chance it would happen to Thanos since he's already shown quite capable of assuming ultimate power he survived on willpower alone in the end.

Vertigo isn't canon but both arcs I factored in are. yay me.

and he almost went insane when he did it then, which means theres still the chance it would/could happen a 2nd time.

Vertigo hasnt been stated as being non-canon, just separate, yet enuff writers have shown that there IS/HAVE BEEN interactions of characters.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says who ? I've seen it said otherwise. To prove it's canon you need it referenced in a dc comic or an interview otherwise it's wishful thinking.

Dream showed up in JLA

*blows away Quanchi112's final defense*

/thread

😄

Tazer

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucy's series is not canon.

His series was a spin-off of iirc, the sand man series "the kindly ones". Dream has been shown to be canon in DC, as have Death and Destiny. Heck there's even an instance in which Lucy and the specter have a conversation. The same is true of the specter and Michael. Michael shows up more than Lucy in fact. So, I don't see how it wouldn't be canon. Explain to me how you believe that it is not canon.

Does DC even portray God as omnipotent?

Originally posted by Falamu
Does DC even portray God as omnipotent?

Originally posted by Uriel005
So omnipotent he doesn't really step in when someone directly challenges him and his authority mostly because he knows its a moot point.

I read somewhere there was comic Presence got replaced by little girl...

in lucifer series, presence got bored so he quit, then elaine took over

Originally posted by Falamu
I read somewhere there was comic Presence got replaced by little girl...

Elain was was rearranging the omniverse like a Styrofoam science project effortlessly last I read, but only because the presence allowed it.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

and he almost went insane when he did it then, which means theres still the chance it would/could happen a 2nd time.

Vertigo hasnt been stated as being non-canon, just separate, yet enuff writers have shown that there IS/HAVE BEEN interactions of characters.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Dream showed up in JLA

*blows away Quanchi112's final defense*

/thread

😄

Tazer

Laughs at you.

Originally posted by Sirius77
His series was a spin-off of iirc, the sand man series "the kindly ones". Dream has been shown to be canon in DC, as have Death and Destiny. Heck there's even an instance in which Lucy and the specter have a conversation. The same is true of the specter and Michael. Michael shows up more than Lucy in fact. So, I don't see how it wouldn't be canon. Explain to me how you believe that it is not canon.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos didn't go insane in fact he mastered supreme power. Akt went insane with a smaller portion and a lot more time. Get your facts straight. Thanos can take supreme power Cronus can't. Thanos' feats make any dc characters blush.

"almost went" and "went" are not the same thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then that instance is canon. Just because superman shows up in jla/avengers doesn't mean all his showings are canon in marvel.

Laughs at you.

if Superman shows up AS Superman in a Marvel book, then yes it does.

*laffs at Quan's pitiful defense being blown away*

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

"almost went" and "went" are not the same thing.

if Superman shows up AS Superman in a Marvel book, then yes it does.

*laffs at Quan's pitiful defense being blown away*

Tazer

That instance is canon not superman's entire history. Are you seriously this confused ?

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos didn't go insane. Period. Cronus did. Period. Therefore since he's already mastered supreme power no reason to assume while wielding it he can't absorb it. None. Period.

I know that "almost" and "went" arent the same thing.........period.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That instance is canon not superman's entire history. Are you seriously this confused ?

no, but U appear to be; according to U this would mean that Superman existed in the MU for that *single instance only*, and then never again, so only wat he did THERE counts..........correct?

'scuse me while I 😆

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

I know that "almost" and "went" arent the same thing.........period.

no, but U appear to be; according to U this would mean that Superman existed in the MU for that *single instance only*, and then never again, so only wat he did THERE counts..........correct?

'scuse me while I 😆

Tazer

It means only marvel sees this as canon to their verse. It's not like they consider every superman appearance canon to their verse just this one.

It's like a vertigo character appearing in the dcu that appearance is canon and only if they retcon that characters entire history in the vertigo verse then it's just what he or she does while in the dcu which is canon to the dcu.

Wow.

Yo.

theres is basis for saying it might affect him in a way he might be unprepared for.

and apparently the Sersi & Black Knight who appeared in the Ultraverse are only canon to THAT universe.............even tho they came from the Marvel, and returned to it.

yea, THATS logical. 🙄

Tazer

Presence still stomps and it can't even be argued. He is God...what is there to argue? Seriously?

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

theres is basis for saying it might affect him in a way he might be unprepared for.

and apparently the Sersi & Black Knight who appeared in the Ultraverse are only canon to THAT universe.............even tho they came from the Marvel, and returned to it.

yea, THATS logical. 🙄

Tazer

Each company decides what is canon to each company if lucy shows up on the dcu it doesn't make all his lucy comic canon. Wow.

^actually it does unless specified otherwise as in order for a character to be cannon at one point their history must be able to bring them there unless directly contradicted by other events.

Originally posted by Uriel005
^actually it does unless specified otherwise as in order for a character to be cannon at one point their history must be able to bring them there unless directly contradicted by other events.

and yet they appear.

Originally posted by Uriel005
and yet they appear.