HOTU vs. The Presence.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If his actions were irrelevant the angel wouldn't have cared and would have stated it wouldn't matter but as the scan shows he resides in everything and the only way asmodel was going to attack him was by attacking all of creation which Thanos can do.

as a member of the Eagle Host, its actually w/in Zauriel character to talk things out, especially given all the chaos Azmodel was causing; that Az's actions were ultimately futile was just a matter of happenstance.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

as a member of the Eagle Host, its actually w/in Zauriel character to talk things out, especially given all the chaos Azmodel was causing; that Az's actions were ultimately futile was just a matter of happenstance.

Tazer

That ball that the Presence is holding is creation. Even if Thanos absorbs it, the Presence still destroys him. People act as if Thanos was above TOAA when he absorbed the heart, but he wasn't. He was too inexperienced and his will was still inferior to that of a supreme being. He only absorbed what he did because TOAA allowed him to. Iirc, Thanos even admits it.

The Presnce is in the little ball that he is holding, but he is also outside and apart from it.

@ Sirius

This is vertigo's presence which didio has stated as a stand alone universe not to be confused with the dcu's presence.

It depends on which presence that we're all referring to. Because DC only has one. If we're referring to the Primal Moniter, then the Primal Moniter stomps, as thanos absorbing his dreams (everything/ "story"😉 wouldn't affect him. He'd just think up more I guess. It's like your subconscious thoughts trying to fight your physical body. They're intangible and able to be manipulated by their source, i.e the Presence/ Primal Moniter.

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In heaven but attacking creation itself was explained to him by the angel Asmodel didn't know this and when he realized it his wrath was going to be at creation itself.

sure he wanted to tear down Everything, but that doesnt mean his actions (if possible) wouldve gotten the result he (or *U*, in this case) wanted......

once again I repeat: consuming the Cake doesnt mean the Baker is swallowed along w/it.

Tazer

Originally posted by Sirius77
It depends on which presence that we're all referring to. Because DC only has one. If we're referring to the Primal Moniter, then the Primal Moniter stomps, as thanos absorbing his dreams (everything/ "story"😉 wouldn't affect him. He'd just think up more I guess. It's like your subconscious thoughts trying to fight your physical body. They're intangible and able to be manipulated by their source, i.e the Presence/ Primal Moniter.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

sure he wanted to tear down Everything, but that doesnt mean his actions (if possible) wouldve gotten the result he (or *U*, in this case) wanted......

once again I repeat: consuming the Cake doesnt mean the Baker is swallowed along w/it.

Tazer

Yo.

no, it really doesnt and Ive said nothing of the sort.

perhaps *U* should be the 1 to try thinking........

Tazer

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Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

no, it really doesnt and Ive said nothing of the sort.

perhaps *U* should be the 1 to try thinking........

Tazer

Yo.

no, it really doesnt, and if Thanos did wat Cronus did then theres a great chance the same would happen to him.

also, Vertigo isnt "officially" canon, but in-actuality thats just a matter of semantics which ignores wat has actually happend ON PANEL.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

no, it really doesnt, and if Thanos did wat Cronus did then theres a great chance the same would happen to him.

also, Vertigo isnt "officially" canon, but in-actuality thats just a matter of semantics which ignores wat has actually happend ON PANEL.

Tazer

Vertigo isn't canon but both arcs I factored in are. yay me.

Actually vertigo itself is canon to dc. Most of the events that take place there have also taken place in dc new earth.

Quan just want to point out that many of the titles in vertigo are cannon while many are not. Constantine is a Vertigo title as well as Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol and Sandman are under Vertigo. So according to you they are no longer cannon if I understand you correctly.

DC Editors just announced that Vertigo is all part of DC.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Actually vertigo itself is canon to dc. Most of the events that take place there have also taken place in dc new earth.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Quan just want to point out that many of the titles in vertigo are cannon while many are not. Constantine is a Vertigo title as well as Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol and Sandman are under Vertigo. So according to you they are no longer cannon if I understand you correctly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lucy's series is not canon. Lucy isn't canon.

Originally posted by Blind Sider
All of Vertigo is now part of DC canon. How that works out, who knows.

Doesn't change that it is now part of mainstream except for the titles that blatantly contradict mainstream like V for Vendetta.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Doesn't change that it is now part of mainstream except for the titles that blatantly contradict mainstream like V for Vendetta.