Originally posted by NotSoBad
18: Something that touches upon expanding the universe with bringing in the Milestone characters and the Red Circle characters – it’s a question that comes up at every panel you do – DC has the Vertigo characters...DD ( Dan Didio ex Editor In Chief Of DC): Who does? I don’t have the Vertigo characters> The DCU does not have the Vertigo characters. Those are under the auspices of Vertigo under Karen Berger, and they have a set plan for those characters that works independently from what we do here – and that’s that. I’ve answered this question so many times...the reality is, as aggressively as we may tell stories with our characters, we will never be Vertigo Comics. We can never use the language that they use in Vertigo, or address the subject matter that they address, therefore, we try to make a very clear delineation between what is DCU and what is Vertigo. Once characters are up front and prominent there, they cannot be anywhere near the DCU.
Too bad Dan Didio used Swamp Thing! 🙄
Originally posted by Black bolt zYou really don't even understand what happened in the story assuming you even read it. Thanos only realized that he was tricked after he had the power not before. 🙂
I believe this is the 6th false claim.He was onyl tricked once. But he was tricked after he gained "teh powazz!"
Originally posted by quanchi112Yes...he relized he was tricked after he got the power. And he was tricked after he got the power.
You really don't even understand what happened in the story assuming you even read it. Thanos only realized that he was tricked after he had the power not before. 🙂
First thing you have gotten right.
Originally posted by Black bolt zNo, he realized what he got himself while he had the power. How would he know about the grim situation all of reality was in before he could see it all as that universe's supreme being ?
Yes...he relized he was tricked after he got the power. And he was tricked after he got the power.First thing you have gotten right.
He was tricked into acquiring the power not after. He only grasped his situation with the knowledge and awareness as the supreme being so he was tricked once.
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he realized what he got himself while he had the power. How would he know about the grim situation all of reality was in before he could see it all as that universe's supreme being ?He was tricked into acquiring the power not after. He only grasped his situation with the knowledge and awareness as the supreme being so he was tricked once.
none of that says how he was tricked INTO TAKING the power, to be quite honest; all this says is that Thanos *felt he was*, not that we saw evidence of it happen.
Tazer
Originally posted by Black bolt zOthers have told you you are wrong regarding this. Not my fault you can't get it.
facepalm8 is the magic number. Theres just no debating with you...
Originally posted by TazerWhat ? That's exactly what it says. Attacking heaven is pointless since he resides in all of creation but who cares I have someone storming the gates of heaven and taking his power which Thanos can most certainly do since far less power was crushing heaven.
Yo.none of which says how that BEATS the Presence.............
Tazer
Originally posted by TazerThe entire arc made this point clear. It was the writer showing us what happened through Thanos' inner monologue and warlock's convo. Thanos steamrolls any Presence who steps to the plate whether you want it to be vertigo's version or dc's.
Yo.none of that says how he was tricked INTO TAKING the power, to be quite honest; all this says is that Thanos *felt he was*, not that we saw evidence of it happen.
Tazer
Originally posted by quanchi1129th...no people have told you you are wrong. Not the other way around.
Others have told you you are wrong regarding this. Not my fault you can't get it.
What ? That's exactly what it says. Attacking heaven is pointless since he resides in all of creation but who cares I have someone storming the gates of heaven and taking his power which Thanos can most certainly do since far less power was crushing heaven.The entire arc made this point clear. It was the writer showing us what happened through Thanos' inner monologue and warlock's convo. Thanos steamrolls any Presence who steps to the plate whether you want it to be vertigo's version or dc's.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
9th...no people have told you you are wrong. Not the other way around.
Originally posted by King KandyThat's directed at you and this issue. I'm on fire.
Um, where exactly does it say that in the comic? Because as far as I can tell, that is 100% the opposite of the truth.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lilith wasn't 'supreme or anywhere near it. Can't recall their names but other beings assumed all power by being in there.If they are one and the same my scans still count. The presence's power can be taken as it was by Cronus or by being in the throne room in lucy's series.
Thanos was supreme as well so he isn't being destroyed since in lucy's series presence was shaped by external forces as well and isn't the end all be all being he was just the center of creation until Elaine took over.
I believe lucy's series isn't canon to the dcu.
Thanos wouldn't be either if he just walked into the throne room. Swamp thing almost did, and he's a part of the mainstream DCU.
If they are one in the same, the Presence is holding Thanos in his hands in a sphere no larger than a soccer ball, if he absorbs said power.
Presence is an avatar just like Toaa. With different aspects and expressions. He has been portrayed in many different ways by many different writers, but in all he has been portrayed as supreme and over everything. Whether he is the hand, the word, the source, the presence, or the primal moniter, he is the supreme being of the DCU, just as TOAA is the supreme being of Marvel comics. Thanos cannot beat either.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lilith wasn't 'supreme or anywhere near it. Can't recall their names but other beings assumed all power by being in there.If they are one and the same my scans still count. The presence's power can be taken as it was by Cronus or by being in the throne room in lucy's series.
Thanos was supreme as well so he isn't being destroyed since in lucy's series presence was shaped by external forces as well and isn't the end all be all being he was just the center of creation until Elaine took over.
I believe lucy's series isn't canon to the dcu.
what difference would that make?
Originally posted by quanchi112You're the one who doesn't listen to reason. You're honestly starting to piss me off with the amount of fanboyism and lack of reason. Honestly you're the only one that's arguing in Thanos' favor and from your track record you almost always do that even when it makes no sense. I've more than adequately proved my point. but you haven't proved your's at all all you did is take scans that don't really prove anything and say "HEre thats the proof". THeres honestly no pt in having this discussion.
You don't have a single shred of proof showing he can. Nothing. In fact we see someone erase his name from every atom throughout creation.It can be resisted as Lucy resisted his will time and time again. How on earth can you miss that ? Wow.
No, he doesn't. The power is in his throne. We saw two idiots stumble onto it. This isn't debatable. You can try to disregard everything to your hearts content as I use the comics to illustrate my points whereas the naysayers say presence wins just because with no rhyme or showings to back it up.
Thanos stomps either presence.
Originally posted by Sirius77Nope, since Thanos himself is another supreme being size makes no difference as Thanos can alter himself as big as he wants to be not that it matters.
Thanos wouldn't be either if he just walked into the throne room. Swamp thing almost did, and he's a part of the mainstream DCU.If they are one in the same, the Presence is holding Thanos in his hands in a sphere no larger than a soccer ball, if he absorbs said power.
Presence is an avatar just like Toaa. With different aspects and expressions. He has been portrayed in many different ways by many different writers, but in all he has been portrayed as supreme and over everything. Whether he is the hand, the word, the source, the presence, or the primal moniter, he is the supreme being of the DCU, just as TOAA is the supreme being of Marvel comics. Thanos cannot beat either.
The Presence is a fictional character not the writer nor have you provided any evidence opposed to my evidence where Cronus himself absorbed his power. Only you would think Cronus absorbed the writer's power.
Originally posted by -Pr-What difference would what make ?
what difference would that make?
Originally posted by SuperherovandalWrong. I provided proof as to how he beats the presence. How does the presence beat Thanos ?
You're the one who doesn't listen to reason. You're honestly starting to piss me off with the amount of fanboyism and lack of reason. Honestly you're the only one that's arguing in Thanos' favor and from your track record you almost always do that even when it makes no sense. I've more than adequately proved my point. but you haven't proved your's at all all you did is take scans that don't really prove anything and say "HEre thats the proof". THeres honestly no pt in having this discussion.
Originally posted by TazerWhat have I lied about ?
Yo.from lying & speaking mistruths, yep.
Tazer