Harry Potter vs Helms Deep

I said its not proven that HP magic would work.

And its looking like an accurate assessment.

You're certainly not able to prove otherwise, by the look of it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I said its not proven that HP magic would work.

And its looking like an accurate assessment.

You're certainly not able to prove otherwise, by the look of it.

The Balrog is not resistant to magic. Not in any way, shape or form. Show me where it was.

Ok. It was resistant to Gandalfs because he was the keeper of the secret fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Fire

Noone else could mess with it.

Only Elves can duke it, with protracted battles using their weapons and magic and the Balrog falling massive heights in the end or Gandalf doing the same.

Pretty much all else who faced them ever died.

Now... where is your proof that Harry and co have the stones?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ok. It was resistant to Gandalfs because he was the keeper of the secret fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Fire

Noone else could mess with it.

Now... where is your proof that Harry and co have the stones?

Proof? haermm I already listed them, Champ.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And where, pretell, did Gandalf perform a magic attack with this....Keeper of the fire stuff? All I saw was him yelling "You shall not pass", then the Balrog fell, then he stabbed it.

Proof? haermm I already listed them, Champ.

Did you miss the part where Gandalf made a protective shield and the Balrog's magma-sword melted around it?

Gandalf also used the magic of his staff to weaken/crack the bridge; that's why the Balrog fell.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And where, pretell, did Gandalf perform a magic attack with this....Keeper of the fire stuff? All I saw was him yelling "You shall not pass", then the Balrog fell, then he stabbed it.

Proof? haermm I already listed them, Champ.

He uses it to establish a barrier, yes.
He says about being the keeper of the fire there. Its there..listen.

No you haven't. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you miss the part where Gandalf made a protective shield and the Balrog's magma-sword melted around it?

Gandalf also used the magic of his staff to weaken/crack the bridge; that's why the Balrog fell.

Exactamundo.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you miss the part where Gandalf made a protective shield and the Balrog's magma-sword melted around it?

Gandalf also used the magic of his staff to weaken/crack the bridge; that's why the Balrog fell.

Ah, so the Balrog's weapon melted when hitting the shield....

Mhm, I know. The weight of the Balrog caused the bridge to collapse. This proves it is far more than just shadows.smoke/whatever. It is a solid being that will torn apart by Reducto.

See what I did there?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah, so the Balrog's weapon melted when hitting the shield....

Mhm, I know. The weight of the Balrog caused the bridge to collapse. This proves it is far more than just shadows.smoke/whatever. It is a solid being that will torn apart by Reducto.

See what I did there?

Specifically, Gandalf's shield and who he was, hence the "I am the blah, blah, blah... and your ***** ass won't pass."

You see Gandalf strike the bridge and affect it, he purposely did so to drop the Balrog, as he likely knew he couldn't hold it at bay indefinitely.

Again, does that spell work on powerful magical beings as it does a bit of furniture?

Originally posted by Robtard
Specifically, Gandalf's shield and who he was, hence the "I am the blah, blah, blah... and your ***** ass won't pass."

You see Gandalf strike the bridge and affect it, he purposely did so to drop the Balrog, as he likely knew he couldn't hold it at bay indefinitely.

Again, does that spell work on powerful magical beings as it does a bit of furniture?

The Balrog itself showed no resistance to magic, dude. None.

HP spells are shown destroying everything from a door, to a stone training dummy, to a section of stone wall. It does so with the same efficiency each time. It might take a few strikes, but in the end, Reducto will reduce it to ashes.

And a protego shield charm will hold it at bay.

Besides, this thread is over. The Balrog was not in the OP.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Balrog itself showed no resistance to magic, dude. None.

HP spells are shown destroying everything from a door, to a stone training dummy, to a section of stone wall. It does so with the same efficiency each time. It might take a few strikes, but in the end, Reducto will reduce it to ashes.

And a protego shield charm will hold it at bay.

Besides, this thread is over. The Balrog was not in the OP.

Well, that's a no limit fallacy, isn't it. So Reducto could destroy a continent? The Moon? The Sun? Reading the HP wiki on it, Reducto seems to have trouble destroying magical things.

Would it?

I know, so why debate to vehemently over the wizards yet "pwning" all?

Originally posted by Robtard
Well, that's a no limit fallacy, isn't it. So Reducto could destroy a continent? The Moon? The Sun? Reading the HP wiki on it, Reducto seems to have trouble destroying magical things.

Would it?

I know, so why debate to vehemently over the wizards yet "pwning" all?

The moon? Lulz, dude, exaggerate much?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Reducto had trouble destroying a hocrux, that's all.

The moon? Lulz, dude, exaggerate much?

No,there's more in the HP link. And what was the most impressive feat of destruction shown? A table? Bit of wall?

Originally posted by Robtard
No,there's more in the HP link. And what was the most impressive feat of destruction shown? A table? Bit of wall?

Voldy goes intangible and hits the Balrog with a dozen or so and it's done.

Lulz at adding the Balrog to this thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
An entire section of stone wall.

Voldy goes intangible and hits the Balrog with a dozen or so and it's done.

Lulz at adding the Balrog to this thread.

Stone wall which isn't a magical living being.

I didn't add it; not my thread.

Originally posted by Robtard
Stone wall which isn't a magical living being.

I didn't add it; not my thread.

There's literally no way to prove one way or the other, dude. Literally. It's a waste of time. What we do know is that the Balrog showed no resistance to magical attacks.

Actually Balrog resisted Gandalf's command under his magic for the Balrog to go back to the shadow from whence it came, dude.

Watching this link, several things occurred to me about a face off at Helm's deep.
YouTube video

Swords other than Gandalfs were of no use against the Balrog: Confirmed by Gandalf in his advice to the others..

Theres no narrow bridge above a chasm and massive drop against fast moving walls (The kind which battered Balrog as he fell)...
On Helm's Deep territory, the wizards are screwed.

The HP wizards dont know the Magic that Gandalf Employed.

They aren't Gandalf and dont have his resistance, damage soak, stamina, ability to absorb lightning, any of that stuff. Theyre screwed.

The 1st attack that you see Balrog launch against Gandalf would have killed anyone not using that specific magic.

These in addition to the fact that you cannot assert that HP magic will work on the Balrog at all with any measure of conviction or certainty makes you cocky assertions exposable as the poop that they are.

But hey. Never mind...there are some tissues in the room of requirement for ya.

(For wiping your tears away, rather than the other reason you need tissues for when you go to the room to think about wizards....)

Yes, but the Balrog never resisted a spell that is designed to destroy, a direct offensive spell.

If anything, what you said implies that the Balrog can resist Legilimens.

Is this suddenly a Gandalf respect thread?

He resisted None shall pass, with his whip....

Legilimens is HP magic. Thats is unproven in the LOTR world.

Its not. Why do you insist that he get no respect?

But that was not a direct offensive spell, a spell designed to destroy.

Just saying, mind control, he seems resistant to.

No, he gets mad respect, I already implied this earlier.