Harry Potter vs Helms Deep

It wasn't an offensive spell, but it was designed to destroy anyone coming forward.

A landmine might not be an offensive weapon, but you certainly wouldn't want to go tap dancing on one.

Then the answer to your question of why he gets mad respect, is "You gave him mad respect".

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It wasn't an offensive spell, but it was designed to destroy anyone coming forward.

A landmine might not be an offensive weapon, but you certainly wouldn't want to go tap dancing on one.

Then the answer to your question of why he gets mad respect, is "You gave him mad respect".

Sure about that? Or was it more of a barrier?

Er. Ok.

Ok?

Yes Im sure.
Its a barrier, its also what I said.

Defensive magic in any case.

K, but still not a spell designed to destroy what it makes contact with. It's like comparing a barbed wire fence to a hand grenade.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K, but still not a spell designed to destroy what it makes contact with. It's like comparing a barbed wire fence to a hand grenade.

Comparing a massive magical being made of magma, fire and smoke to a stone wall insisting equally stupid?

Originally posted by Robtard
Comparing a massive magical being made of magma, fire and smoke to a stone wall insisting equally stupid?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The spell, babe, not the beast.

The beast, b!tch, not the spell. See?

RJ, have you missed the HUGE shadow cloud hanging around it? Yes, it has a body, but it also has all the shadow with it, you ont know where any part of it is apart from legs, arms, and head. You can guess as to where the torso is (obviously) but you dont know where its vitals are (if it has them)
Your neglecting everything we say just asking for proof that HP magic affects it. Well, if HP magic has trouble affecting magical creatures in its own universe, why the HELL do you think itll work on a freaking fallen angel from another universe?

As somebody said, Gandalf said "Swords are useless here, RUN!"

Honestly, the wizards get their ass kicked here. No doubt. They cant kill that thing very easily, lulz @ Immobulus, Intangible, and Reducto.

Id like to see them hit a large, dangerous, magical, fallen angel attacking them with fire and shadow, with a simple Reducto spell. Id also like to see it do anything, as the best its done is destroyed ordianary stone walls. Give me a M72 LAW and I can do more.
Funny how you think they wouldnt sh*t their pants when they see it. Why exactly would they not?

Originally posted by Pwned
RJ, have you missed the HUGE shadow cloud hanging around it? Yes, it has a body, but it also has all the shadow with it, you ont know where any part of it is apart from legs, arms, and head. You can guess as to where the torso is (obviously) but you dont know where its vitals are (if it has them)
Your neglecting everything we say just asking for proof that HP magic affects it. Well, if HP magic has trouble affecting magical creatures in its own universe, why the HELL do you think itll work on a freaking fallen angel from another universe?

As somebody said, Gandalf said "Swords are useless here, RUN!"

Honestly, the wizards get their ass kicked here. No doubt. They cant kill that thing very easily, lulz @ Immobulus, Intangible, and Reducto.

Id like to see them hit a large, dangerous, magical, fallen angel attacking them with fire and shadow, with a simple Reducto spell. Id also like to see it do anything, as the best its done is destroyed ordianary stone walls. Give me a M72 LAW and I can do more.
Funny how you think they wouldnt sh*t their pants when they see it. Why exactly would they not?

Name a time when a wizard, Harry in particular, shit their pants when confronted with a big Beastie.

The Balrog is solid, I have already proven this. It's literally shakes the foundation as it lumbers about, it crushed a stone pillar as it tried to get to Gandalf, it was hitting the walls of the chasm as it fell.

As I said earlier, at no time was it hit with an offensive spell. There's no way to prove either way if it can be harmed that way, we have nothing to work with.

I never denied that it is solid, in fact I have said so several times. You apparently are neglecting that A)The Balrog took days to kill, including magic (magical lightning no less, watch vid of fight on top of Caradhras) sword stabs, and falling a very very very long chasm into a giant pool of water (something normal humans cant survive from about 100+feet I think not quite sure)

Oh, and if you didnt notice, dwarven stonework? That stuff and hold a bit more than a balrogs weight, nice try trying to say the balrog broke the bridge on its own. Gandalf weakened it, watch closely when he first hits it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Name a time when a wizard, Harry in particular, shit their pants when confronted with a big Beastie.

When Potter ran from the basilisk with the look of "I'm about to shit my knickers" on his face. When he tripped and all he could do is cover his head with ass up in the air. If it wasn't for the phoenix-thing, he would have died then and there due to 'shitting himself.' So, that.

^ That.

Originally posted by Robtard
When Potter ran from the basilisk with the look of "I'm about to shit my knickers" on his face. When he tripped and all he could do is cover his head with ass up in the air. If it wasn't for the phoenix-thing, he would have died then and there due to 'shitting himself.' So, that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And the horntail?

Funny, dude, funny. You asked for one example; I gave it. So you try a shift.

But to answer the question, Potter did shit himself with the dragon too. He spent most of the scene running with a "I'm about to squirt my undies" look on his face. He was also somewhat safe the whole time, he had every wizard there watching his ass.

Proceed onto the next "and" question.

Originally posted by Robtard
Funny, dude, funny. You asked for one example; I gave it. So you try a shift.

But to answer the question, Potter did shit himself with the dragon too. He spent most of the scene running with a "I'm about to squirt my undies" look on his face. He was also somewhat safe the whole time, he had every wizard there watching his ass.

Proceed onto the next "and" question.

Yes, until the horntail, you know, kinda broke free from it's leash.

And what, from the movie, makes you think that Horntail was half as powerful as a Balrog?

Did YOU hear people saying "Oh yeah, and everything you have is useless. Now, RUN LIKE HELL!!!!!"

Let's see, was the Balrog leashed and controlled by handlers? Nope.

Did I say it was as powerful as the Balrog? It's just as imposing though.

Meh, I could argue the imposing part, due to the balrogs size, etc. Dragon was big no doubt.

COULD anything leash a balrog? No, not in a million years. That thing got the goblings together to drive the dwarves from Moria, NOTHING is putting a leash on it.

Originally posted by Pwned
Meh, I could argue the imposing part, due to the balrogs size, etc. Dragon was big no doubt.

COULD anything leash a balrog? No, not in a million years. That thing got the goblings together to drive the dwarves from Moria, NOTHING is putting a leash on it.

I read somewhere, a LOTR wiki link, that dragons rivaled Barlogs in ferocity.

K. Point?

The LOTR dragons are different from HP dragons I believe, (Obviously I have to pull from books) Ancalagon the Black, flying dragon, greatest to ever live. When he died, he crushed Thangorodrim beneath him. Thangorodrim is a huge mountain containing the LOTR equivalent of Hell, being the Iron Mountain and fortress of Melkor the Morgoth, the Great Enemy, Master of Sauron, creator of orcs, the one who will destroy Arda in the Dagor Dagorath.

Glaurung, father of dragons, very large, invincible anywhere except his belly. Breathed fire, couldnt fly. Came out as an adolecent (cant spell today =-/) adventure and crushed elven armies beneath him, striking fear into the hearts of the Elves of Beleriand, and very nearly destroying them all. As an adult he attacked Nargothrond, a great hiddin elven kingdom, took many as slaves, and pretty much destroyed the place alone. Hypnotized Turin Turambar just by looking at him. Dragons could do that stuff. He was killed years later by Turin when Turin hid in a ravine Glaurung had to pass over, while he was going to kill Turin and his sister.

All from the Silmarillion.

Wiki link:http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons