Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If there is an MVF rule that decrees one gimp must balance out the other, that both sides must be gimped equally, that's a different story.You think that's gonna actually happen?
So you'll continue to avoid the question, thought so.
Anyhow, making the opponents stay in a given battle field isn't a gimp. A gimp is "Vader can't Force-crush."
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If there is an MVF rule that decrees one gimp must balance out the other, that both sides must be gimped equally, that's a different story.
And here IS that story.
This is why gimping has to be eradicated.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm with you on this. All abilities, full powers at the start of every thread. If a wizard can apparate across countries onscreen, they should be able to do so in every MVF thread.
Even though that is basically useless in these type of matches unless they're trying to run away. As I said, I'm personally fine with that, as long as it doesn't break the OP conditions.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm with you on this. All abilities, full powers at the start of every thread. If a wizard can apparate across countries onscreen, they should be able to do so in every MVF thread.
A strange stance for the bloke who set up those rules, because it suited him back then.
How strange that you are the only one who managed to "benefit" from said ridiculous ruling...yet now once its stupidity/pointlessness is pointed out, you now claim to have been against it...?
Wow.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure.Back to the thread. The wizards use blasting spells on the Balrog. Indo story.
You can be an ass all you like, but you well know it's true and you're wrong.
The thread is the Undead Army and they've already swarmed over and stabbed each wizard 197 times in a matter of seconds.
Originally posted by Robtard
You can be an ass all you like, but you well know it's true and you're wrong.The thread is the Undead Army and they've already swarmed over and stabbed each wizard 197 times in a matter of seconds.
If the gimps are 100% equal, then bring it. I ask again, you think this is possible?
Oh shit....Room of requirement.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If the gimps are 100% equal, then bring it. I ask again, you think this is possible?Oh shit....Room of requirement.
Ok, again, show me a wizard vs anyone where making both opponents stay within a battle-field not be equal? We're talking about restriction movement beyond a given realm for both parties; not saying wizards can't apparate or Superman can't fly.
What?
Originally posted by Robtard
Ok, again, show me a wizard vs anyone where making both opponents stay within a battle-field not be equal? We're talking about restriction movement beyond a given realm for both parties; not saying wizards can't apparate or Superman can't fly.What?
You just said it, dude. "restriction movement."
Originally posted by RobtardI know it's hard to imagine this having a domino effect, what with your wizard hate and all. But that's what's gonna happen. You already took it up a notch trying to restrict summoning spells.
Within the confines of a given battle ground which both parties are subject to. No amount of crying is going to make this a "wizard gimp!"
Think about it like this: If a wizard apparating anywhere in the world makes it too one sided, then maybe you should accept that wizard power>>>>>>Force powers.
Originally posted by Robtard
Maximum range is basically pointless in these fights unless someone (RJ) is going to say that a wizard will apparate to Hogwarts and bring something back. Which is likely outside the OP to begin with.I'm fine with allowing a wizard to jump on over to China and back in the fight, compared to only allowing them to apparate within the given battle-field(an island, a warehouse etc.). But as I asked RJ and he avoided, how does apparating to China help when it's not used to run away.
When has maximum range ever been used until someone from the Comic Book vs. forum brought it up? It wasn't. We seemed to get along, just fine....especially in the teleporter vs. fights. Now, all of a sudden, "RING OUT!!!!" is being used against teleporters. And, unless the OP restricts the weapons (which would, again, be gimping), it doesn't matter where they get their weapons.
Well, this is where imagination comes in: you can tell him to STFU if he brings up China as Harry has never been to China. He has to be able to visualize the location before he can go to it. 🙂 See what I mean about using your imagination to pwn those arguments? hehehe
Originally posted by Nephthys
I would apply the same resitriction to teleporting away to get anything. It's not about the bomb dude.
To me, you seemed to be hung up on the bomb. My reading comprehension failed. Forgive me.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Because it does not represent the actual abilities of teh character but rather the setting in which he is placed.
But when did the setting stop becoming ultra-important to vs. discussions? Additionally, no matter the setting, a cross-planetary teleporter will always have the world at his or her disposal: the max weight they can teleport with them will be their limit on what they can use. Again, I refer back to McClane's example.
I think this argument only applies to Jumpers, Nightcrawler, Wraith, and anyone else I'm forgetting. Only those wizards shown being able to teleport more than themselves should count. I'm sure RJ could think of reasons why the Wizards are like the Jumpers, but I'm not up for that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Also it would require him to actively flee from the fight in order to win. That would be like me saying that Vader can take out Hogwarts because he can run away to his Star Destroyer and nuke it from orbit. Obviously that does not mean that Vader is actually >>>> Hogwarts though. Or that McClane can take out Hit-Girl because he can run away and then bomb her house in her sleep.
You'll not get anywhere with that argument, with me. I'm the one that said removing the Clone Wars era Star Destroyers would technically be a gimp. That's a major tool in their arsenal so why should it be excluded?
But, I can understand a martial combat situation as that's happened in the films. For the Jumpers? Teleporting across the world WAS part of their fighting. That's just the same as reducing Vader's force TK to just small fruit (Ep II reference FTW.)
Originally posted by Nephthys
You can call me whatever you want. The mods are on my side.
Incorrect. It's up to the thread starter to specify if there's going to be a ring out gimp, or not. 😐
They cannot apparate inside of the school. This is fact. Whether it is fair or not I do not care. Anything like that powder stuff(can't for the life of me remember the name) would logically be allowed, though honestly it would quite inconvenient and I do not seeing anyone doing it for any tactical reason other than to flee, which counts as a forfeit.
That said, this thread should not be allowed since apparently there is nothing whatsoever the wizards can do to win. A rule like the one in Game Versus wouldn't hurt.
"12. Certain characters are known to be omnipotent or invulnerable canonically. Examples of such are Pyron, whose actual limitations are not known, Pyramid Head, who is essentially an incorporeal manifestation of psychological issues, and Ganon, who cannot be defeated without the Master Sword and/or Light Arrows.
We will allow these characters only if the first post specifies that they have lost that unbeatable element, enough so that the opponent(s) have, at the very least, a chance of winning."
Not to sound like someone trying to tell Impediment what to do but it would make threads like this a bit less spitey. ^_^