Originally posted by playa1258I don't see a huge difference at all in terms of combat speed in how these two were portrayed. Thor seems ten times the fighter in the movie as Superman has been portrayed in any of his movies. Depowered the guy got his ass beat by some bully at a diner.
Despite Superman being Stronger and Faster?
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Originally posted by TazerThor wasn't phased at all by really anything thrown his way so despite his hammer crutch it's always with him and can easily be summoned to his side.
Yo.the only time we saw Thor FIGHT was when he was w/o Mjolnir; everything else was done via the hammer (even dispatching the D-armor didnt involve a fight if we're being honest, since its not like he engaged it physically.)
theres no doubt that a hammer-strike would knock Supes for a loop, but we've not seen how strong/durable he is w/o it (when not depowered), and Id reckon a punch from *him* would give him pause.
Supes doesnt really have *any* feats where he puts his STR up against another person, but similarly Thor never really fought any1 who was his equal either (and no, Loki wasnt even WITH his fathers weapon, as its an assumption that he was using Gungir, which would be *false* since its a spear, not a staff.)
Tazer
I see Thor winning based off of being a superior, skilled warrior who fights for sport and still comes out on top.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman was also trying to save the people inside of the bus. What would have happened to them had he just decided to stand there and take it? They would have probably died by the feedback resulting from it.
Hmmmm, sounds awfully familiar to a certain helicarrier and the Sentry. Just saying.
Back to the topic at hand, I dont think we can call this one. Superman had some crazy feats like lifting the island (although he took a sundip before he did it) and reversing time and so forth, but to be honest, Thor didnt seem challenged in his movie. The Destroyer was a joke and the frost giants werent very impressive.
I cant call it.
^Superman did not sundip.
He simply flew up to the stratosphere/troposphere to get some sunlight because the clouds were too thick below that level. Basically, he went up to a point where he often is while flying anyway.
All that exposure to the Sun did was heal him a bit from being stabbed by the k-crystal, it did not amp him in the least. He was still less than 100%.
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see a huge difference at all in terms of combat speed in how these two were portrayed. Thor seems ten times the fighter in the movie as Superman has been portrayed in any of his movies. Depowered the guy got his ass beat by some bully at a diner.😂 Thor wasn't phased at all by really anything thrown his way so despite his hammer crutch it's always with him and can easily be summoned to his side.
I see Thor winning based off of being a superior, skilled warrior who fights for sport and still comes out on top.
h2h its not a contest, but I also think its fair to point out that we only saw him do so when he fought humans, so theres no indication of how well his skills would carry him in a fight against other Asgardians (who wouldve been in much the same types of battles as him), OR the Frost Giants, w/o Mjolnir.
granted his *wasnt* phased by much, but then again he also kept everything away from him too; he didnt engage anything w/in arms reach besides Loki, and he's no fighter at all going by wat we saw. Id also wager Supes couldve survived *atleast* 1 solid hit from the D-armor AND remain conscious, while while we saw how badly hurt Volstagg & Sif got from near misses.
based off the movies involved, I dont see Thors "superior skills" doing much to win him this fight; his move against the D-armor wouldnt work since hes capable of flight, and going by his lone STR-feat of *barely being able to* flip over that dinning hall table I dont see a h2h fight making Supes even noticing he got touched.
Mjolnir is the only thing which could get him a win here, and even then I dont think he has the displayed feats that could give him a majority win.
Tazer
Originally posted by Badabing
Superman fought Zod, Ursa and Non in II but it was meh-tastic at best. Thor left an exit wound in the giant monster and smashed Destroyer's face.
They did what they could at the time to make it "super." Which is my main beef with returns. I wanted to see an all out Superman fighting with current special effects. Instead we got the island stunt.
Impressive but...meh.
Still I am with Rage on this. I think Thor can hang for a while with his skills, but I don't see them being good enough to triumph over Superman's raw power.
Say what you want about the combat feats...if Superman came flying at near lightspeed and punched Thor in the face he WILL feel it.
Originally posted by Zack FairNo. sneer
They did what they could at the time to make it "super." Which is my main beef with returns. I wanted to see an all out Superman fighting with current special effects. Instead we got the island stunt.Impressive but...meh.
Still I am with Rage on this. I think Thor can hang for a while with his skills, but I don't see them being good enough to triumph over Superman's raw power.
Say what you want about the combat feats...if Superman came flying at near lightspeed and punched Thor in the face he WILL feel it.
I was disappointed, somewhat, with Returns. That means movie Thor wins.
And if Supes tries flying to Thor at speed, he gets uru to the face! biscuits
Originally posted by Zack FairCripes...facepalm
Oh yeah...that reminds me...131
Now I have to rethink this match again. grumpy
You just made the list! sneer
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Originally posted by Badabing
Cripes...facepalmNow I have to rethink this match again. grumpy
You just made the list! sneer
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Dear god not like this...not like this...
Originally posted by Zack FairNice! 😂
Dear god not like this...not like this...
Originally posted by Zack Fair
No he wasn't. He was flying really fast, but we don't know how fast.
When he was fighting the frost giants, yes, he was fighting at high speeds. They couldn't even touch him and they were coming from EVERY angle. They took the camera far away and you see him slapping them at super speed.
Thor stomps this no contest. He was a BEAST in that movie.