Clubber Lang vs. Ivan Drago

Started by Stealth Moose37 pages

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ffs rocky took lang's blows, head on, and walked away with superficial injuries.

with drago he walked away with irreparable brain damage.

no further evidence needed. now cease this retarded nonsense.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
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Obviously both of you don't know boxing.. Drago was the icing on the cake.. He had already taken a lot of damage in his career and Drago finished him off.. it wasn't the case of drago doing all of it and the people before did nothing.. Not so. This was further reinforced by the doctor who said YEARS of head trauma along with the clips of him and his past fights as he was first realizing the damage. It showed al lhis fights

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
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Obviously both of you don't know boxing.. Drago was the icing on the cake.. He had already taken a lot of damage in his career and Drago finished him off.. it wasn't the case of drago doing all of it and the people before did nothing.. Not so. This was further reinforced by the doctor who said YEARS of head trauma along with the clips of him and his past fights as he was first realizing the damage. It showed al lhis fights

it's just a huge coincidence that this head trauma started affecting him directly after the drago fight. 🙄

not 10 years before.

not the day before.

not the morning of.

not even the week after.

but in the shower precisely after his fight with drago.

JUST A COINCIDENCE.

Rocky III and IV are on AMC right now for anyone who wants feats and hilarious 80's tropes

Originally posted by focus4chumps
it's just a huge coincidence that this head trauma started affecting him directly after the drago fight. 🙄

not 10 years before.

not the day before.

not the morning of.

not even the week after.

but in the shower precisely after his fight with drago.

JUST A COINCIDENCE.

Do you think football players have last concussion syndrome because of one hit or a SERIES of hits? It's a series of hits. The damn doctor in the movie SAYS IT WAS FROM YEARS OF HEAD TRAUMA and they proceed to show clips of all his fights. It could be anymore clear. this is the case in the real world and fiction. I most cases it's extended head trauma not just one incident.

Drago wins

Originally posted by Robtard
You need to stop ignoring that in their first match, Rocky was not in good figthing shape or mentallity and had spent the last decade fighting chumps.

Second match, Rocky took Lang's hits and mocked him for more. I posted the clip were Rocky litterally sticks his face forward and asked Lang to punch him.

I'm ignoring nothing. Again I am not talking about the first fight at all. Why you and others want to bring it up like you're refuting a point of mine makes no sense

He blocked them with his glove on the side of his head. He took Dragos hits raw and unprotected

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ffs rocky took lang's blows, head on, and walked away with superficial injuries.

with drago he walked away with irreparable brain damage.

no further evidence needed. now cease this retarded nonsense.

If he didn't need to dodge and block Langs hits and Lang got 15 rounds to just smash Rocky then you'd have a point

Originally posted by Psychotron
He didn't need to do it because he already had those skills at that point. Rocky's training for Drago was all about strength and stamina.

He sure did.

Okay, fine. It was the second round. It doesn't matter.

That's bullshit. Watch the clip you posted. Starting at 3:00 Clubber wails on Rocky. Just in that instance I counted 26 unblocked hits to the face before Rocky falls down. Then he got right back up. Lang ain't shit.

He had the skills but didn't use them. That's the point

Negative

It does tho

Rocky putting his hands up to his head and Clubber hitting those gloves opposed to him just hitting Rockys unprotected head is him blocking

Dude, I just watched Rocky IV again last night. Ivan Drago had him on the floor rapidly in the first round, and it wasn't until a few rounds later that Rocky even got in some hits. Drago is just a friggin' beast. Before the 15th round, a Politburo guy pisses him off and he one-hand neck lifts the guy with his gloved hand. I mean, really.

This is the same guy who beat Apollo Creed into Action Jackson pudding and then mauled a ridiculously ripped and well trained Rocky for the first part of the match.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Dude, I just watched Rocky IV again last night. Ivan Drago had him on the floor rapidly in the first round, and it wasn't until a few rounds later that Rocky even got in some hits. Drago is just a friggin' beast. Before the 15th round, a Politburo guy pisses him off and he one-hand neck lifts the guy with his gloved hand. I mean, really.

This is the same guy who beat Apollo Creed into Action Jackson pudding and then mauled a ridiculously ripped and well trained Rocky for the first part of the match.

You're so biased it sickens me. You're leaving out Apollo was five years out of his prime, it was an exhibition match, and he hit him a lot after the bell.

Drago also hit Rocky after the bell multiple times. Rocky took everything this softie threw at him. His own supporters called him a disgrace. Drago lost the support of an entire nation.

😂

He lost the support of an entire country and unlike Lang never beat Rocky once.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Keep ignoring the film facts.

Originally posted by juggerman
He had the skills but didn't use them. That's the point

Negative

It does tho

Rocky putting his hands up to his head and Clubber hitting those gloves opposed to him just hitting Rockys unprotected head is him blocking

He didn't use them much against Lang either.

Affirmative.

Why?

No. Watch the clip you posted. Skip to 3:00. Rocky takes an assload of hits to the head without covering up. Lang was impotent in their rematch.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Dude, I just watched Rocky IV again last night. Ivan Drago had him on the floor rapidly in the first round, and it wasn't until a few rounds later that Rocky even got in some hits. Drago is just a friggin' beast. Before the 15th round, a Politburo guy pisses him off and he one-hand neck lifts the guy with his gloved hand. I mean, really.

This is the same guy who beat Apollo Creed into Action Jackson pudding and then mauled a ridiculously ripped and well trained Rocky for the first part of the match.

Because Drago was the better boxer. No one is disputing this

Originally posted by Psychotron
He didn't use them much against Lang either.

Affirmative.

Why?

No. Watch the clip you posted. Skip to 3:00. Rocky takes an assload of hits to the head without covering up. Lang was impotent in their rematch.

That's all he used against Lang. His whole strategy was to evade and block so he took as few hits as he could. He didn't have a problem Taking Drago's hits

No

Because it shows what his plan was going in(what he did the entire first round) then it shows how he had to change it up due to his original plan not working(when Clubber caught him and thrashed him in round 2). He had to immediately switch gears to survive. He had no trouble taking hits from Drago for 15 rounds without needing to come upwith a plan on the fly.

I did and you're wrong. Rocky's hands block his head

Originally posted by Psychotron
No. Watch the clip you posted. Skip to 3:00. Rocky takes an assload of hits to the head without covering up. Lang was impotent in their rematch.

Wait which video?

Originally posted by juggerman
Wait which video?

Originally posted by juggerman
That's all he used against Lang. His whole strategy was to evade and block so he took as few hits as he could. He didn't have a problem Taking Drago's hits

No

Because it shows what his plan was going in(what he did the entire first round) then it shows how he had to change it up due to his original plan not working(when Clubber caught him and thrashed him in round 2). He had to immediately switch gears to survive. He had no trouble taking hits from Drago for 15 rounds without needing to come upwith a plan on the fly.

I did and you're wrong. Rocky's hands block his head

Just wacth this video. From 3:00 until he gets knocked down Rocky tanks a shitload of hits to the face from Clubber. No strategy, no dodging, no blocking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCG8b0lIXw

Originally posted by Psychotron
Just wacth this video. From 3:00 until he gets knocked down Rocky tanks a shitload of hits to the face from Clubber. No strategy, no dodging, no blocking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCG8b0lIXw

Ok:

1. He did have a strategy. He implemented the entire first round and the beginning of the second. You're pointing out where Clubber broke thru Rocky's defense and trying to act as if Rocky was never trying to avoid him to begin with.

2. Yes he took an ass load of shots from Clubber there but far less than the 15 rounds worth he took from Drago. And again after taking those hits from Lang he NEEDED to change his strategy an avoid taking so many hits. With Drago he did just fine taking all those head shots and never needed to block and dodge like he did with Lang

Lang wins. Rocky could and did tank Drago's punches and illegal after the round punches as well. We saw what happened in the first fight when Rocky took Lang's punches.