Darth Malgus vs Sith

Originally posted by Nephthys
And yet you seem to think a person has to be at least as powerful as him to be actually powerful. This is wrong.

Originally posted by Nephthys
ugh3

Bane can disintergrate dozens of opponents with his TK, and your reply is 'oh yeah, well..... Malgus can kill people too!'

Leave. Seriously, this argument is done. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys
ugh3

And Banes lightning completely reduced them to ash! That is a feat that has only been matched by Darth Sidious himself. Banes lightning is faaaaaaar more powerful than Malgus' and more powerful than anything Malgus can defend himself against.

Malgus could walk through powerful blasts of force lightning and channel them back at his opponents. Think before you try to make a point.

And a hint about Malgus's force lightning:

Maglus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, the lightning spiraled around the Zabrak blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.

His force lightning attacks are lethal too.

Bane may still have edge in this regard but this does not proves that he can manhandle someone as powerful as Malgus with it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh well, whoopdie do!

If that was Banes lightning, she'd be powder on the floor. 😐

Game. Set. Match.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I am going to enjoy crushing you.

You misspelled 'loser.'

English in not my first language.

That will not stop my glib humor.

No problem.

I will appreciate if you will follow my points with open-mind this time.

Like you have mine?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Ragnos wins.

/thread.

Classic.

Pour moi,

Plo Koon solos.

/Thread

Originally posted by REXXXX
Shinkoryu, some of what you posted was explicit and unnecessary. Please keep that sort of thing to a minimum. Next time I see it, you'll receive a warning.

I agree. That was completely uncalled for.

Originally posted by Zampanó
[...]godhead entity Bane of Many faces.

This is pretty funny on its own, provided, that one has read the Song of Ice and Fire books...

For the debate: Malgus gets killed by Dooku, if he manages to make it that far.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are judging Malgus on the basis of one duel only. You cannot make a fair assessment of him with such limited information.

Well actually I'm judging him from four duels. That seems pretty fair to me.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I find this statement ironic after your epic display of biased stance towards your favorite characters.

My stance is one that I've hewn over years of debating these characters. I assure you, I have more logic than bias in my reasoning.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your assumptions are baseless. Malgus and his Sith Master were no ordinary beings by that time. They were tasked with recapturing of the planet Korriban and they succeeded. You think that the Empire would send some fools to perform such a vital job?

They were in charge of capturing it? It looked to me that they were merely boarding the Republic station.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Read about Sith Inquistors here before spouting more nonsense.

'Regardless of potential, few acolytes succeed in facing the rigorous trials to become Sith Inquisitors. Only the most determined acolytes attain such an achievement, but these Sith are often the ones to watch. Due to their manipulative genius, Inquisitors are skilled at exploiting both their enemies and their allies to further their own personal agendas.

From what I can gather from your link, becoming a Sith Inquisitor is not a matter of power (regardless of potential), but one of determination (only the most determined acolytes attain such an achievement) and manipulation (Due to their manipulative genius). So thank you for the link. 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The Sith Master trained Malgus that damn good that he could handle his own in difficult situations. Even Satele was no match for him during that time. Get the point?

No not really. The actions of an apprentice are not those of a master. Malgus clearly outpaced him anyway.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
There is hell of a difference between showings of Kao and Qui-Gon in live-action fights alone, you numbskull.

Kao isn't live-action ninny!

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
We don't need a novel to praise Kao. However, I hope that he is featured in some novels.

As do I. He's quite the badass.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes. That is why he relied on the element of surprise to kill Maul.

In comparison, Maglus was much more powerful then the Padawan Obi-Wan by the time he faced Kao and killed the powerful Jedi Master in much more convincing manner.

If you say so. I'm not really interested in Maul anyway.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The original one was stronger then?

Perhaps, perhaps not. All that matters is that you cannot compare the two.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Another baseless assumption from you. Just because a doppleganger of Maul gave Vader a hard time, you suddenly put him above Kao? This proves that you are full of shit and heavily biased for your favorite characters.

Sorry, Maul does not seems to be on par with Kao.

Not an assumption, merely my opinion. I'm allowed to have an opinion, correct? And if you're going to bash me for making assumptions, do not assume you know my reasoning behind said 'assumptions.'

You are welcome to your opinion. Or to make a thread where we can discuss it more fully.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here;

Malgus fell into the Force, roared, and hounded down the street, his anger lending his speed.

The Jedi held his ground. At twenty meters, the Jedi raised his lightsabers aloft to either side and drew them both down with a flourish.

Too late the rumble of the falling buildings penetrated the haze of Malgus's anger. An avalanche of duracrete and transparisteel crached down on him from either side of the street.

Malgus stood in a pocket under a mountain or rubble, legs bent, the power from his upraised hands preventing several tons of duracrete and steel from crushing him. Dust made his already troubled breath more difficult. He coughed as the words of his father echoed in his mind.

He'd been sloppy, so lost in his need for revenge that he'd failed to properly evaluate the Jedi's power. He's surrendered his reason to bloodlust. But no more. With an effort of will, he contained his anger, controlled it, made it a whetstone against which he sharpened his power. Using the Force, he blew the rubble up and away from him. It fell with a crash on the adjacent buildings. A Force-augmented leap carried him out and over the heap. The Jedi's eyes widened as Malgus hit the street. Malgus sneered and charged.

@ Nephthys

Now what you have to say?

Well now that you've posted it I can see that it appears he did indeed collapse it with the Force. Nice, he might not be complete trash after all. However, it is not enough to say that he was particularly impressive either. He was clearly waiting for Malgus, so he could easily have been building up a large amount of energy to perform the feat, similar to Bane when he collapsed the temple. And given that it occurs in a war-ravaged city the houses could be dilapidated or in ruin. Theres also the possibility that he exhausted himself with teh exertion, thus enabling Malgus to easily finish him. On the whole, I would not rank this on a level with Bane's grandiose feats of power.

Also I find the concept of being impressed by stopping a mere 'several tons' quite laughable.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here;

His breathing sounded like a rasp over wood. His skin stung from burns. A Republic commando has exploded a grenade in his face, and combat with a Jedi witch had damaged his lungs. Lacerations and contusions made a grim mosaic on his flesh.

When he planned to engage the Jedi, the pilot of his vessel said this:

"Return, my Lord? Where are you going? You're seriously wounded."

He was having trouble breathing and his face hurt. Meh, thats hardly debilitatiing.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I just did.

Ah, excellent. Now we can begin actually debating.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Unlike in the case of Zannah, the Jedi who faced the injured Malgus were prepared to fight the Sith Lord. One of Jedi performed impressive feats during the duel. This is the difference.

Undoubtably. I've never suggested the Jedi Zannah killed were anything but chaff.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What does this proves here? Those Jedi were shit or Zannah is impressive?

I will say both.

Those two Jedi were shit because they are featless cannon-fodders.

Zannah did an impressive job because she killed them when she was just 12 and without formal training.

This is exactly what I intended to get across.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your assertion fits you perfectly.

Um, ok?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Tall claims which lack any basis. You cannot think logically.

Then why are you even talking to me. Clearly this is wasting your genius time. you should be out curing cancer or something slick.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus killed many Jedi effortlessly during his venture in to the Jedi Temple.

A feat easily replicated.

'He leapt forward and cut the first red-robed figure down before he-or she-had a chance to react, a single slash of his lightsaber bisecting the unfortunate opponent horizontally, just above the waist.

......

The assassins fell on Bane again, but instead of repelling them with the Force, he allowed his body to become a conduit, turning himself into a physical manifestation of the dark side's tumultuous power. As he spun like a whirlwind, his blade seemed to be everywhere at once: hacking, slashing, and slicing his enemies to ribbons.

All four assassins died in the attack, though one managed to land a single blow with his force pike before his throat was slit, the wound so deep it nearly severed his head. Fueled by rage and fury, Bane shrugged off the deadly electrical shock like a rancor shrugging off the bite of a venn-bug.'

Notice Bane Speed-blitz on Sith Assassin. Nice.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Even when he was badly injured, he performed very impressive feats and killed two Jedi with his powers. He crushed the windpipe of one, and burned the other with his force lightning.

He can contend with Bane on equal footing.

Being able to fight while injured doesn't suddenly elevate him to Bane's level. Bane too was able to perform telekinetic feats while dying from poison. But that doesn't mater. No matter how good Malgus is at taking a beating, it will not enable him to defeat Bane.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are pathetic as shown above.

"Much to learn, you still have."

Again, fvck you right back.

'"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."'

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sounds like a fairytale.

Theres always some truth in fairy tales.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes, it does.

Oh my what a brilliant argument you've completely floored me. 😐

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No, Garen is more powerful. Sidious acknowledged this.

By 'they are on teh same tier' I mean that they are around about the same level of power. Galen is the superior, but Vader is not far behind.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Defeat Garen or Vader?

Vader and Bane.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sorcery is another thing. It is like magic and is performed on the basis of spells, talismans etc...

If you say so, oh master of Lore. 🙄

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That is not victory for Bane. It was a partial gain for him.

And Malgus knows Jar Kai too. He killed Kao using this technique.

'He drove Kas'im back with furious slashes, forcing his old mentor into a backpedaling retreat across the floor of the chamber. Kas'im flipped back and out through the door into the hall beyond, but Bane was relentless in his pursuit, leaping forward and coming within a centimeter of landing a crippling blow to the Twilek's leg.

His strike was turned aside at the last second, but he quickly followed it up with another series of powerful thrusts and stabs. The Blademaster continued to give ground, pushed inexorably back by the raging storm of Bane's onslaught. Each time he tried to change tactics or switch forms, Bane anticipated, reacted, and seized the advantage.

The outcome was inevitable. Bane was simply too strong in the Force. Only some unexpected maneuver could save Kas'im, but they had fought too many times in the past for him to surprise Bane now. Over the course of his training Bane had seen every possible sequence, series, move, and trick with the double-bladed lightsaber, and he knew how to counter and nullify them all.

The Blademaster became desperate. Leaping, spinning, ducking, rolling: he was wild and reckless in his retreat, seeking now only to escape with his life. But he didn't know the Temple like Bane did. Bane kept the routes to the outside cut off, slowly herding his opponent into a dead-end hallway.

Recognizing what was happening, Kas'im blew open the heavy door of a side room with the Force and dived inside. Bane knew there was no other exit, and he paused at the threshold of the room to savor his victory.

The Twi'lek stood in the center of the empty chamber, panting heavily, stooped ever so slightly, his head bowed. He looked up when Bane stepped through the doorway. But when his gaze met Bane's, there was no hint of defeat in his eyes.

"You should have finished me when you had the chance," he said. There was less than five meters between them, but it was just enough space for Kas'im to give the hilt of his lightsaber a quick twist. The long handle separated in the middle, and suddenly he was armed not with one double-bladed lightsaber, but with a pair of single blades, one in each hand.'

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do you understand the meaning of the word "preoccupied"? Malgus was completely focused on Satele. The commando's move came as a surprise.

If Malgus is an idiot who can't sense something aproach him from the die then his skills are not up to Bane's. Hell, Caedus, who Bane is arguably superior to (or not arguably imo) was able to sense a Luke completly hidden from Force senses attack him from behind when he was competely focused on Ben. The ability to sense with the Force and precognition are two basic Jedi powers. That Malgus sucks with them only speaks of his weakness.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Am I wrong?

Often my friend.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Ian is irrelevant.

He isn't, but whatever. I can see you don't understand the difference between Live-action and CGI.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You like to make things up.

I do. I'm sorry. Kao didn't really do a kewl backflip. 🙁

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
There was no cooperation between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Anakin just rushed towards Dooku and got overpowered by his force lightning. Obi-Wan had no choice but to fight Dooku alone and he lost. Then Anakin came back but performed poorly with Jar Kai. He got one of his hands chopped off. This entire episode tired Dooku to some extent but he replenished his energies.

Then Yoda came and countered every move of Dooku. They engaged in a lightsaber duel but Dooku realized that he could not defeat Yoda and may eventually get subdued if he would persist. He distracted Yoda by force moves and managed to escape.

Not very impressive, I assure you.

In case of Kao; two powerful Sith Lords cooperated and yet they got outclassed. One of them was struck down by Kao. In addition, Kao also performed more impressive force feats in comparison to Count Dooku's showings in the Geonosis.

But.... Kao lost. 😐

Dooku fought 3 prominent Jedi and got away with it inconclusive who won. Dooku need not of realised he couldn't win, just that it would be close. Or that reinforcements were coming. Plus he had just fought Kenobi and Skywalker 10 seconds before.

Dooku has shown more impressive Force feats outside of Geonosis. And lightsaber feats.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Those droids were jokes.

So?! The fact that Starkiller could Force Push hundreds if not thousands of them, plus the trash heaps in the room out of the temple and across the lanscape in an artificial hurricane is a mind-boggling telekinetic feat. Their combat abilities do not even come close to mattering in this case.

Do you understand anything about scale? Starkillers feat was on a scale far above anything Malgus has accomplished. Its one of the greatest telekinetic feats in Star Wars.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus performed this with a mere gesture:

Malgus fell into the Force as his brewing anger bubbled to the surface. “I said disperse!”

When the crowd did not respond to his demand, he slammed a fist into his palm and let anger-fueled power explode outward from his body. Screams sounded as the blast shoved everything away from him in all directions.

Bodies flew backward, slammed into one another, into the walls, against and through windows. The transport he’d rode on lurched from the blast. The doors of the medical facility flew from their mounts and crashed to the ground.

With proper focus, he could perform much more impressive feats in comparison to this one. He has chance.

A basic Force Wave. Not impressed. Particularly compared to Starkillers artificial hurricane above.

I do believe that you just schooled the only person to ever grace KMC whose bias towards KotOR is greater than yours.

This battle was epic and will be the stuff of LeGenDs. 😐

I'm not done yet. 😉

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sure.

Some examples:

1. Malgus augmented his strength with the Force, took a two-handed grip on his blade, and unleashed an overhand slash designed to split the Jedi in half. The Jedi sidestepped the blow and crosscut with his blue blade at Malgus’s throat. Malgus got his blade up in time, parried, and slammed a kick into the Jedi’s mid-section. The blow folded the Jedi in half, sent him reeling backward five paces. Malgus leapt into the air, flipped, landed behind him, and drove his blade through the Jedi. Roaring with battle lust, Malgus sought another opponent.

2. A flash of lavender skin drew his gaze—Eleena. She ducked under a saber slash and dived to her side, firing half a dozen blaster shots as she did so. The Padawan who’d tried to kill her, a female Zabrak, the horns of her head gilt with colored pigments, deflected the shots as she closed in for another blow. Eleena flipped to her feet, still firing, but the Padawan deflected every shot and drew nearer.

[B]Malgus drew on the Force and with a blast of power drove the Padawan across the hall and into one of the towering columns of stone, where she collapsed, blood leaking from her nose.

3. Malgus, not to be outdone, picked a Jedi Knight at random, a human female ten meters away, held forth his left hand, and discharged veins of blue lightning from his fingertips. The jagged lines of energy cut a swath through the battle, harvesting two Padawans as they went, until they caught up to the Jedi Knight and lifted her off her feet.

She screamed as the lightning ripped into her, her flesh made temporarily translucent from the dark power coursing through her. Malgus savored her pain as she died.

4. Before he could locate the Jedi Master, three more Jedi swarmed him. He parried the chop of a human male, leapt over the low slash of an orange-skinned Togruta female, severed the hand of the third, a female human, disarming her, then grabbed her by the throat with his free hand and slammed her into the floor with his Force-enhanced strength.

“Alara!” said the human male.

Leaping high over the male’s cross-slash, Malgus landed behind the Togruta, who parried his lightsaber strike but could not defend herself against a Force blast that sent her skidding across the hall and into a pile of rubble.

5. He ducked under a slash from the male, lunged forward, and took the Jedi by the throat. He lifted him from his feet and held him suspended in the air, gagging. The Jedi’s brown eyes showed no fear, but did show pain. Malgus roared, squeezed hard, then dropped the body and stood over it, blade at his side, breath coming hard.

6. He returned his gaze to Zallow and stalked toward him, his rage and power surging before him in a palpable wave. Another Jedi stepped in front of him, blue blade held high. Malgus barely saw him. He simply extended a hand, pushed through the Jedi’s insufficient defenses, seized his throat with the Force, and choked him to death. Tossing the body aside, he moved toward Zallow.

7. Zallow and Malgus closed. They halted at one meter, studied each other for a moment.

A human male Jedi Knight separated from the swirl of battle and stabbed at Malgus. Malgus sidestepped the blue line of the blade, punched the man in the stomach, doubling him over, and raised his own blade for a killing blow.

8. At the same time, he reached out with the Force for the hiddern light-side user, brushed aside the resistence he felt, and pulled the Jedi out of hiding.

A human male in his twenties rose up out of ruins, dangling like a fish on the hook of Malgus's power. His legs kicked futilely; the green blade of his lightsaber cut at empty here; he gagged as Malgus's power squeezed shut his throat.

"Vorin!" shouted the Zabrak.

"So much for your ambush," Malgus said, and closed his fist, crushing Vorin's windpipe. He let the body fall to the charred earth.

So, fodder.

Nothing in that long list was particularly impressive at all. I could ask you to show that any of the Jedi Malgus killed there was worth a damn, or even as good as the Jedi Jango killed, so I will.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He can handle both.

And you call me pathetic.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Don't dodge my point.

Here is a comparison:

Which object is bigger and heavier? The answer is obvious.

You think that only Yoda and Sidious could perform impressive feats?

You dare to compare Kao to Sidious and Yoda? I laugh at you.

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1.17.

Which object is bigger and heavier? 😐

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Use your brain.

One of us should.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Like this:

Eschewing speed and grace for power, Zallow loosed a flurry of rapid strikes, slashes, and lunges. Malgus parried one blow after another...

Another hint:

The red line of his weapon spun so fast in his hand it expanded into a shield.

Another hint:

Adraas loosed a flurry of strikes, his blade a humming, red blur as he spun, stabbed, slashed, and cut. Malgus backed off a single step, another, then held his ground, his own blade an answer to all of Adraas’s attacks.

Now you get the picture?

haermm

You think that in any way compares?! Two mentions of a 'flurry' and a bit of blur from a lightsaber spin? How does that in any way compare to seeming to have a dozen blades at once?

Oh, I'm getting a picture all right.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
See above hints.

Well:

Originally posted by Zampano
Blax, I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make. That's obviously my fault, because I am an idiot.

Think about it this way:

Bane is a big guy. He covers probably six square feet when viewed from above, including the area above his arms when they are outstretched. That means that he needs to clear six square feet of water droplets during the deluge, assuming that they are descending straight down.

There is water refilling this area constantly, as new raindrops appear. It doesn't matter so much how fast each individual drop is moving as how frequently the area's water supply is replenished by water droplets. His lightsaber essentially has to multiply its area at all times by an order of magnitude (i.e. factor of ten) to protect him. His lightsaber is moving fast enough to be in ten places at once, at a conservative estimate.

(There is evidence that the number is much, much greater: "howling gale," "driving rain."😉

Originally posted by Zampano
Please don't make me do math.

Six square feet is 864 square inches. Imagine a grid of 1"x1" squares. If a raindrop, traveling at whatever speed, appears in even two thirds of those at any given moment, the lightsaber (which is roughly 3 ft by one inch, or 36 square inches in profile) would have to be in 16 different places at once, assuming that every inch of the lightsaber was deflecting water at every instant during the rainstorm. Now consider the probability that the drops are not all perfectly colinear and increase that number. Not consider that the storm is described as consisting of "driving rain" amidst a "howling gale" and increase the number again to account for the much greater profile that the 2 meter Sith Lord has from the side. Finally, increase the number once more to accomodate the additional area that Bane cleared to provide himself maneuvering room; the text says explicitly that he "twisted, twirled, and contorted his body" to evade raindrops... in a deluge, there are no non-threatened locations except those created by a barrier. Bane was clearing an area greater than the exact surface area of his profile.

Thus, we can be sure that Bane is moving at the most absurdly low estimate at a speed equal to 16 strikes per second, and at a more reasonable guess something like 100 strikes per second.

Originally posted by Zampano
Explain to me exactly where there is a disconnect between the physics of motion in SW and the physics of motion in our own world. Within canon, Bane was capable of vaporizing every inbound drop of rain during an intense rainstorm. For that to happen, his lightsaber had to move through each raindrop before the water reached his skin. His lightsaber had to make at least 200 rotations per minute for that to occur.

There is no magic plasma, no "other dimension," hell, no "universal energy field" to be dealt with here. This is basic unit-rate conversion that I could do as a seventh grader. Your claim that there is a shortcoming in the method without explanation, qualification, or proof, has lost you a lot of respect in my eyes.

If there is a problem with using physics in this instance, then by all means explain. If not, I expect a retraction of your objection within two (2) business days.

I just ran the numbers and if you use the "cloudburst" figure from the website I linked, then the necessary RPM ramps up to like 73,000 in order to mimic a solid disc of protection.

Holy hell.

See above for details.

...done?

Originally posted by Korto Vos
I agree. That was completely uncalled for.

Seriously thats Hypocrisy to its max.

Not done yet.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That is not wrong. Anything less does not impresses me much.

You should change that attitude. There are plenty of impressive individuals below Dooku.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You mean the Malevolence cultists? Seriously, your argument is done.

Malgus killd a bunch of Cultists? How does that have any relevence. Bane demonstrated incredible telekinetic mastery by being able to disntergrate entire opponents, dozens of them with the Force. What does Malgus have that can compare? Nothing.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And how strong were those opponents?

It does not matter. Banes lightning reduced them to ash, a level of power beyond that shown by any other Sith except Sidious himself. Malgus cannot compete.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Malgus could walk through powerful blasts of force lightning

Like when Kao threw Vindicans lightning at him? awepedo

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
and channel them back at his opponents. Think before you try to make a point.

Again, I do not need to think to school you.

And a hint about Malgus's force lightning:

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Maglus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, the lightning spiraled around the Zabrak blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.

His force lightning attacks are lethal too.

Bane may still have edge in this regard but this does not proves that he can manhandle someone as powerful as Malgus with it.

Impressive, I'll grant him. I've never said he was not. But he is sorely lacking if you think he can match one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever.

They don't compare.

You accept that Banes lightning is beyond him. Good.

...Ok now I'm done.

Ow, cramp.

Originally posted by Borbarad
This is pretty funny on its own, provided, that one has read the Song of Ice and Fire books...

For the debate: Malgus gets killed by Dooku, if he manages to make it that far.

Originally posted by shinkoryu
Maybe i been to far but seriously, im sick of this guy and his KOTOR biased fanboyism. I mean come on, he complains that Vader and Galen are overpowered in all the TFU materials(trailers, scripted scenes, novel) but he keeps using those TOR trailers to back his arguments up?

Seriously thats Hypocrisy to its max.

Hooray, you are no longer exposed to the posts that force you to make reportable posts! It is a much wiser course of action than bashing established members, which will not be tolerated. If we aren't allowed to have socks then we don't have to deal with trolls.

In regards to the charge of hypocrisy, I'd like to remind you that the TFU franchise has a myriad of detractors on this forum. The sheer futility of the Starkiller character, especially in advancing the development of the OT (specifically the utter impossibility of any lasting consequences from his actions) makes all of us a lot less willing to accommodate the wild swings in power levels between TFU and ANH.

Its not like he said anything that rude. I tell people to jizz on things I'm about to insert into their anus' all the time!

Also thank you for the numbers to the Bane in the Rain feat.

no prob.