Originally posted by mr.smiley
I think it will be close. DKR grossed around 150 opening weekend,so It could see around 200 mil,but man will it be close.
How close are the openings between it and Amazing spiderman?
That could possibly give us a hint.
There is a week between the two.
Also Dark Knight rises doesn't have 3D tickets to bump up it's opening weekend gross (and Avengers sold 20% more tickets than TKD even with out the 3D bump). It's extremely unlikely that TKDR passes 200 mil.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is a week between the two.Also Dark Knight rises doesn't have 3D tickets to bump up it's opening weekend gross (and Avengers sold 20% more tickets than TKD even with out the 3D bump). It's extremely unlikely that TKDR passes 200 mil.
There's 17 days between Spiderman and TDKR, and the former comes out on 4th of July week, which gives it like 3 weekends seeing as how 4th of July falls on a Wednesday. That should be plenty of time to do it's damage before TDKR takes over the box office.
Well, here is a good post on another forum on why 200 mil is possible...
That is the biggest flaw in reasoning anybody here is making. Theater count doesn't matter, it's SCREEN count. Its the NUMBER OF SHOWTIMES, because so many will sell out.
TDK opened 9,300 screens. Avengers just opened in 11,800. You can bet your behind TDKR is going to be over 11,500 screens when it opens. So, where will this 15-20% increase in admissions from TDK come from? Well, it will be opening on about 30% more screens. So, that is at least a start.
173 million (tdk adjusted opening weekend) / 9300 screens = $18,602 per SCREEN. That average translated to 11,800 screens is $220 million. And clearly that is without 3-D. So before anybody says "200m is impossible w/o 3-D", just read that last sentence to know that it is MORE than possible. Factor in a lot more imax theaters, much higher midnights, and more upfront demand that TDK had, and you'll see a "perfect storm of events" would give TDK that 4-5 million admissions boost people are talking about, where it opens to $250 million, or something literally unbelievable.
200m is FAR from impossible. Believe it or not, there were pleeeeeenty of half full showing of the Avengers the past weekend. TA's 22.5m admissions on 11,800 screens is obviously a little less than TDK's 22.4m admissions on 9,300 screens.
Again, the ballpark range for midnights should be 35-40. Friday will be 65-70. Saturday roughly the same. Sunday 55-60. Prior to Avengers, I struggled to see how this would fail to top 200 million OW. After it, I am struggling to imagine less than 215.
When is the last time a film opened that was the follow to the 2nd highest grossing movie ever? This is not Spiderman 2, or LOTR 2, or even the Matrix Reloaded. TDK is one of the most popular films of a generation. I would guess literally two times as many people are aware of Batman, which opens in 3 months, than MIB3, which opens in 3 weeks. That is not meant as a knock against MIB3, either.
TDKR is literally one of the most anticipated films OF ALL TIME. People need to be thinking bigger.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well, here is a good post on another forum on why 200 mil is possible...
If it's so possible, how come it hasn't happened before last week?
I know a lot of variables come into play for this, but consider the perfect storm of events that happened in TDK's favour:
1. People knew this was Batman at his darkest & most serious yet. Batman Begins didn't have any kind of record-breaking opener, becasue it was about re-selling him to the public after the candy-cane flavour failure of Batman & Robin, and now people knew this was truly Batman in the real world as opposed to a fantasy one.
2. It was the return of the Joker at last, which had been building since the tease at the end of BB.
3. Heath Ledger's shocking death just months earlier brought even greater curiosity to seeing his performance, which was getting early raves. People felt they HAD to see this now, even if they weren't fans.
I was on the fence regarding this topic last week, but did think four years of anticipation to find out what happened next after TDK would be in it's favour, and it still might. But as it was just a week ago media members were wondering if Avengers could beat the record established by The Hunger Games this year - and to see them smash the record, not just beat it - I now think it might be a steep mountain to climb. The record beaten for the third time in a year?
Originally posted by roughrider
If it's so possible, how come it hasn't happened before last week?
I know a lot of variables come into play for this, but consider the perfect storm of events that happened in TDK's favour:1. People knew this was Batman at his darkest & most serious yet. Batman Begins didn't have any kind of record-breaking opener, becasue it was about re-selling him to the public after the candy-cane flavour failure of Batman & Robin, and now people knew this was truly Batman in the real world as opposed to a fantasy one.
2. It was the return of the Joker at last, which had been building since the tease at the end of BB.
3. Heath Ledger's shocking death just months earlier brought even greater curiosity to seeing his performance, which was getting early raves. People felt they HAD to see this now, even if they weren't fans.
I was on the fence regarding this topic last week, but did think four years of anticipation to find out what happened next after TDK would be in it's favour, and it still might. But as it was just a week ago media members were wondering if Avengers could beat the record established by The Hunger Games this year - and to see them smash the record, not just beat it - I now think it might be a steep mountain to climb. The record beaten for the third time in a year?
Eh? I don't get what you mean. Anyway, it all depends on the hype it gets before the movie. It's already insanely hyped and has more than 15 million views on youtube in just under 14 days. The hype is there and will continue to rise before it is released.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I was arguing throughout this thread that TDKR will make more.But even I've changed my mind. Avengers is on it's way to becoming one of the biggest films of all time. And deservedly so.
But I stll see TDKR making more than any other solo superhero has ever made (except perhaps TDK).
Told you so.
Originally posted by roughrider
If it's so possible, how come it hasn't happened before last week?
I know a lot of variables come into play for this, but consider the perfect storm of events that happened in TDK's favour:1. People knew this was Batman at his darkest & most serious yet. Batman Begins didn't have any kind of record-breaking opener, becasue it was about re-selling him to the public after the candy-cane flavour failure of Batman & Robin, and now people knew this was truly Batman in the real world as opposed to a fantasy one.
2. It was the return of the Joker at last, which had been building since the tease at the end of BB.
3. Heath Ledger's shocking death just months earlier brought even greater curiosity to seeing his performance, which was getting early raves. People felt they HAD to see this now, even if they weren't fans.
I was on the fence regarding this topic last week, but did think four years of anticipation to find out what happened next after TDK would be in it's favour, and it still might. But as it was just a week ago media members were wondering if Avengers could beat the record established by The Hunger Games this year - and to see them smash the record, not just beat it - I now think it might be a steep mountain to climb. The record beaten for the third time in a year?
I have to agree with all of this.
Originally posted by nimbus006
There's 17 days between Spiderman and TDKR, and the former comes out on 4th of July week, which gives it like 3 weekends seeing as how 4th of July falls on a Wednesday. That should be plenty of time to do it's damage before TDKR takes over the box office.
Yeah, what I meant was that Spider-man has a full week at the box office, then there is a week between that and TDKR.
Thinking on this subject a bit more I think it's possible TDKR could top Avengers seven day total. TDKR has the benefit of coming out in the summer which should translate into a much higher Midnight showing on Thursday and higher box office on the week days that fallow the opening week end. Still think Avengers opening weekend record is safe.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankYeap n in just 19 days!
Looks like the Avengers officially grossed over 1 billion dollars. Phucking insane.