Gabriel Belmont vs. Kratos

wait the Titans that Gab fights in Lords of Shadow are complete diffrent the the Titans in God of War. the one's Gab fights are more like giant golems power by magic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's irrelevant because far less psi was used by Zeus when he stabbed right through him than from Cronos who dwarfs him considerably. You also don't have one single example to back your claim. I've already addressed this multiple times and you spin it back into the circular argument which probably tends to find you in every debate you find yourself in.

The game makes it clear Kratos isn't beyond swords, enemies weapons and besides that fact you have no cutscenes to back up your dubious claim.

Gabriel does use strength to catch their weapons thrown, etc. or flat out overpower and kill them. he does to which Hephaestus doesn't have any feats except attacking an unaware Kratos and dying. You abandon feats when it serves you and bring them up when it does as well making it known you implore double standards. Your arguments actually go against you as well though you don't even see it which is amusing.

Kratos avoided Cronos long enough to kill him. His strength can't survive an assault from Cronos but he can temporarily resist and then blind Cronos. That's a huge difference from what your implying and is exactly the same as how Gabriel takes on the larger opponents.

Realistically Kratos' skin gets cut as it has in the game. In real life just as in the game no weapons break against his skin.

What does by virtue of size even address ? The funny thing is I have given examples you haven't to back up your claims.

He fought Ares on equal ground but has never fought a giant being on equal ground since then. Every giant he has fought he avoids and damages certain parts of them until he can destroy them. To not know the difference in this elementary logic shows you cannt grasp the obvious.

You call everyone else a troll who disagrees with you and get threads shut down because you become unraveled. Either debate civilly or concede. The choice is yours.

Gabriel wins.

You dont even know what PSI is it seems, also no Zeus has proven he has similiar level strength to Kratos, also Kratos was weak at the time. Well I cant help a circular argument when you cannot use evidence and are too proud to admit it, thats why these are not real debates, more like squables.

Again, an unbacked claim....

Gabriel cought rocks probably not far bigger than he was iirc, not the same. None of my arguments are double standards or go against eachother in a logical standing, yours however have no real argument/evidence to them.

Only he did not just avoid him, he took a slap from him, he took his two fingers coming together on him...infact the amount of times Kratos was cought proves he did not do the best job of avoiding. No because Gabriel never canonically gets slapped or struck by those opponents, if he did he would have better durability feats.

Again, false claims, unbacked.

It adresses beings who clearly gain strength from their size, e.g. Cronos.

Describe equel ground, you seem to think someone being the same size as another is equel ground, technically Kratos should be able to knock Ares on his ass at this point considering hes shown feats that suggest it. One could also argue Kratos' tiny size combined with his strength to fit a much larger being physically makes some fights unequel in his favour.

I call anyone who is a troll, a troll, youve proven that so I dont know what your complaining about here.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its better than going 'Gabe can't hurt Kratos' 'Nah' 'Uh-huh, he's totally weak' 'portrayal is an acceptable form of evidence for some reason even though it totally isn't' 'Nah' 'uh-huh etc etc etc bullony.'

Nah.

We see Gabriel easily start wrecking Forgotten One's body with his own strength. To suggest Kratos' skin can take it I'd need to see examples because lesser beings have been depicted as capable of harming Kratos.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You dont even know what PSI is it seems, also no Zeus has proven he has similiar level strength to Kratos, also Kratos was weak at the time. Well I cant help a circular argument when you cannot use evidence and are too proud to admit it, thats why these are not real debates, more like squables.

Again, an unbacked claim....

Gabriel cought rocks probably not far bigger than he was iirc, not the same. None of my arguments are double standards or go against eachother in a logical standing, yours however have no real argument/evidence to them.

Only he did not just avoid him, he took a slap from him, he took his two fingers coming together on him...infact the amount of times Kratos was cought proves he did not do the best job of avoiding. No because Gabriel never canonically gets slapped or struck by those opponents, if he did he would have better durability feats.

Again, false claims, unbacked.

It adresses beings who clearly gain strength from their size, e.g. Cronos.

Describe equel ground, you seem to think someone being the same size as another is equel ground, technically Kratos should be able to knock Ares on his ass at this point considering hes shown feats that suggest it. One could also argue Kratos' tiny size combined with his strength to fit a much larger being physically makes some fights unequel in his favour.

I call anyone who is a troll, a troll, youve proven that so I dont know what your complaining about here.

If you played the game you'd realize what I say is true and even in cutscenes he dies from being cut open.

Rocks bigger than him and they weigh far more anyways and he easily punches them into the Forgotten One with his strength. Irl take a fifty pound rock and punch it as hard as you can and tell me if you break your hand. K. I have given examples of Kratos being cut and you haven't offered one shred of evidence to suggest he can resist someone with gabriel level strength. Not one.

How is it unbacked when I have given instances of him being cut. If you want a claim of yours to be taken seriously you need to cite evidence where he resists someone's sword or pointy thing with his skin. That's an unbacked claim.

If Cronos gains strength by virtue of size then so does Kratos. You aren't even clever enough to know the difference and that you destroy your own arguments.

Rqual ground means he can take Ares on directly unlike when he's small like against Cronos he blinds him and runs up and down his body avoiding even being seen whenever he can. If you ask for me to define equal ground I can tell nothing anyone says ever gets through to you because you simply don't grasp even your own arguments. Kratos is strong enough and clever enough to kill Cronos but he can't take him on straight up or on equal ground he has to hide.

No you do this all the time it's another sign of desperation when you are losing you start with the insults. Unlike you I don't get upset with a difference of opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus hasn't shown himself to be equal to Kratos strength. Kratos has more feats just like you say a fully pandora backed Kratos doesn't have the feats you somehow disregard your feat based arguments again. That's called a double standard.

If you played the game you'd realize what I say is true and even in cutscenes he dies from being cut open.

Rocks bigger than him and they weigh far more anyways and he easily punches them into the Forgotten One with his strength. Irl take a fifty pound rock and punch it as hard as you can and tell me if you break your hand. K. I have given examples of Kratos being cut and you haven't offered one shred of evidence to suggest he can resist someone with gabriel level strength. Not one.

How is it unbacked when I have given instances of him being cut. If you want a claim of yours to be taken seriously you need to cite evidence where he resists someone's sword or pointy thing with his skin. That's an unbacked claim.

If Cronos gains strength by virtue of size then so does Kratos. You aren't even clever enough to know the difference and that you destroy your own arguments.

Rqual ground means he can take Ares on directly unlike when he's small like against Cronos he blinds him and runs up and down his body avoiding even being seen whenever he can. If you ask for me to define equal ground I can tell nothing anyone says ever gets through to you because you simply don't grasp even your own arguments. Kratos is strong enough and clever enough to kill Cronos but he can't take him on straight up or on equal ground he has to hide.

No you do this all the time it's another sign of desperation when you are losing you start with the insults. Unlike you I don't get upset with a difference of opinion.

Sometimes beyond, he can manhandle Kratos for instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOVZYWXD8w#t=3m16s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughN8KulJGk&feature=related#t=2m39s

pretty impressive both for strength and durability considering Kratos smashing on him and he just gets up.

Not from forces Gabriel has.

I am not Kratos, if I was I would shatter the rock. Chronos, hephaustus, Poseidon>>Gabriel and his combat cross. Difference is I have actually shown you the evidence, you have shown nothing.

Youve given instances/claims but you have not shown anything, I can claim Kratos has blown up planets with his finger pokes, I would have to show he can before its true.

Why would kratos? when we know his size is irrelevent to him having ridiculous strength? we know Kratos' muscle mass/general mass has nothing to do with it. Kratos gains weight and some advantages form being large but not strength. Your the one who does not seem to know the difference between mass/muscle strength by virtue of size or strength based on virtue of magic/sorcery.

Thats kinda like what I said to you, repeating my argument wont help you either. Well becuse being small he has to run up and down his body, because hes small....where are you trying to go with this?

Calling someone a troll is not an insult.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sometimes beyond, he can manhandle Kratos for instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOVZYWXD8w#t=3m16s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughN8KulJGk&feature=related#t=2m39s

pretty impressive both for strength and durability considering Kratos smashing on him and he just gets up.

Not from forces Gabriel has.

I am not Kratos, if I was I would shatter the rock. Chronos, hephaustus, Poseidon>>Gabriel and his combat cross. Difference is [b]I have actually shown you the evidence, you have shown nothing.

Youve given instances/claims but you have not shown anything, I can claim Kratos has blown up planets with his finger pokes, I would have to show he can before its true.

Why would kratos? when we know his size is irrelevent to him having ridiculous strength? we know Kratos' muscle mass/general mass has nothing to do with it. Kratos gains weight and some advantages form being large but not strength. Your the one who does not seem to know the difference between mass/muscle strength by virtue of size or strength based on virtue of magic/sorcery.

Thats kinda like what I said to you, repeating my argument wont help you either. Well becuse being small he has to run up and down his body, because hes small....where are you trying to go with this?

Calling someone a troll is not an insult. [/B]

You haven't shown Kratos resist any pointy object so it's still the same old song and dance.

Hephaestus has no feats showing he's better than gabriel but you assume so because he sneakily electrocuted Kratos. At least be consistent uin your arguments as you undermine them yourself.

I'm not claiming anything that hasn't been done to Kratos himself in his own game. That's the thing you are making the claim he resists being cut without any proof even within his own game.

We know size isn't irrelevant unless you think a giant Kratos can be squeezed to death by Cronos if Kratos doesn't resist with two fingers. The stuff you say defies all common sense. We know Kratos is strong enough to kill cronos eventually while much smaller but he's nowhere near as powerful as giant Kratos.

The fact Kratos can't take crnos head on because he's the size of a fingernail. If Kratos was the size of ares he could come straight at him.

It sure isn't a compliment either. Wow.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he can hurt Kratos despite not having better strength feats and the winner is the guy who outfights the other not the one who out benches the other which is what I have been saying this entire time.

You haven't shown Kratos resist any pointy object so it's still the same old song and dance.

Hephaestus has no feats showing he's better than gabriel but you assume so because he sneakily electrocuted Kratos. At least be consistent uin your arguments as you undermine them yourself.

I'm not claiming anything that hasn't been done to Kratos himself in his own game. That's the thing you are making the claim he resists being cut without any proof even within his own game.

We know size isn't irrelevant unless you think a giant Kratos can be squeezed to death by Cronos if Kratos doesn't resist with two fingers. The stuff you say defies all common sense. We know Kratos is strong enough to kill cronos eventually while much smaller but he's nowhere near as powerful as giant Kratos.

The fact Kratos can't take crnos head on because he's the size of a fingernail. If Kratos was the size of ares he could come straight at him.

It sure isn't a compliment either. Wow.

You kinda missed the actual evidence, I know you dont look at it but I think you should at least do so if your not even going to post evidence of your own. outfights? So if a normal human being wielding a knife was more skilled than an Angry hulk, hulk would lose based on your logic without changing the example?

Ofcourse its the same, you seem to think pointy objects automatically have super powerz!, when all they are is extra PSI from a smaller area.

No, I claim he is because he launched a hammer strike to Kratos who cought it and bested him.

Yes you are, your claiming a man with at best a few tons of strength can harm Kratos despite when a guy with thousands of tons of strength cannot.

Giant Kratos has shown no extra power, infact all he did was punch a chunk from a building, if anything thats not that powerful considering the force Chronos has at his fingers and could not defeat Kratos with would have leveld the whole thing.

Thats a difference of tactics, that does not gauge power.

Well no....its not supposed ot be a compliment, if someone is trolling their baiting other member and generally trying making a fool of the forum.

Skill is a loaded term.

By itself it essentially means nothing.

As I've always said, it can simply be summed up by physical attributes such as reflexes/reaction time, hand-eye-coordination and even general speed.

Is Gabriel superior in those regards? I doubt it. Kratos has the more impossibly unwieldy weapons and he handles them with supernatural ease, never once does he harm himself.

Skill is more important between humans, where the use of a weapon (included fists), moves they can do with it in a practical environment etc are revelent mainly because any small advantage in a fight of similiar speed and durability can be useful.

This is not one (and neither are most fights between key charcters in games vs) because here we have two beings with vastly different physical stats, I would not say Gabriel is much faster than Kratos if at all, both know how to use their weapons but based on experiance i would give it to Kratos, hes the God of war and has fought against enemies of all description and in large scale battles.

In the end its irrelevent, as anyone who has played GoW knows, Kratos has vast durability and power, too much for Gabriel to be able to bypass even if he was a huge amount faster.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You kinda missed the actual evidence, I know you dont look at it but I think you should at least do so if your not even going to post evidence of your own. outfights? So if a normal human being wielding a knife was more skilled than an Angry hulk, hulk would lose based on your logic without changing the example?

Ofcourse its the same, you seem to think pointy objects automatically have super powerz!, when all they are is extra PSI from a smaller area.

No, I claim he is because he launched a hammer strike to Kratos who cought it and bested him.

Yes you are, your claiming a man with at best a few tons of strength can harm Kratos despite when a guy with thousands of tons of strength cannot.

Giant Kratos has shown no extra power, infact all he did was punch a chunk from a building, if anything thats not that powerful considering the force Chronos has at his fingers and could not defeat Kratos with would have leveld the whole thing.

Thats a difference of tactics, that does not gauge power.

Well no....its not supposed ot be a compliment, if someone is trolling their baiting other member and generally trying making a fool of the forum.

I have already defeated this with a real life example of a bee piercing your skin with hardly any force compared to a human punch to which you might not bleed from. We've seen far less than Crono strength pierce Kratos.

I don't see why Gabriel can't catch this and best him either. Hephaestus wasn't even portrayed as a badass just a smith god who can create uber weapons. The guy had no spine and had no feats as to suggest he beats gabriel.

Kratos resisting for a moment only means that. Kratos couldn't have been crushed by his fingers as his size and overall mass would make it impossible. To say Kratos is just as powerful as god powered Kratos shows you don't understand what mass can bring to the table while you keep insisting real life concepts to the table.

Kratos used these tactics because he had to. Kratos couldn't take him head on. It's pretty obvious but then again you don't understand a word of this anyway.

Calling someone a troll isn't a compliment, here,hyrule, nosgoth, or in Kratos' swimming pool.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Hulk would win based off of his healing ability and his hard to cut skin. His powers are proportionate to his anger. no one here is also saying a regular human being kills Kratos I am saying someone who is supernatural with strength/skill feats of his own can get the job done.

I have already defeated this with a real life example of a bee piercing your skin with hardly any force compared to a human punch to which you might not bleed from. We've seen far less than Crono strength pierce Kratos.

I don't see why Gabriel can't catch this and best him either. Hephaestus wasn't even portrayed as a badass just a smith god who can create uber weapons. The guy had no spine and had no feats as to suggest he beats gabriel.

Kratos resisting for a moment only means that. Kratos couldn't have been crushed by his fingers as his size and overall mass would make it impossible. To say Kratos is just as powerful as god powered Kratos shows you don't understand what mass can bring to the table while you keep insisting real life concepts to the table.

Kratos used these tactics because he had to. Kratos couldn't take him head on. It's pretty obvious but then again you don't understand a word of this anyway.

Calling someone a troll isn't a compliment, here,hyrule, nosgoth, or in Kratos' swimming pool.

😆 but you said last time that the winner is the guy who can outfight the other? now your saying Hulk because of his stats is too strong, you know who replaces hulk in this matchup? Kratos, Gabriel may as well be a normal man at this point.

You cant defeat it, PSI works regardless of your claims concerning bees, a bee compared to the area a normal human beings skin covers is tiny, it only has to break a small amount. When? last time I looked a super strong king of Gods using a war winning blade impaled a weak Kratos (depowered, no Titan magic in him yet, barely able to walk).

When has Gabriel held super heated hammers wielded by someone as big as hephastus? nonsense. The guy is a coward therefore his muscle mass and bone structure have become weaker than a mans, is that your argument? 😆 , no wonder you cannot understand how PSI works when you cannot even understand something like that.

It means that he can take a slap from thousands of tons of force without harm, thats what it means. Mass, e.g. perhaps 100-200+ tons, I dont know is trivial to the thousands of tons Kraots has already shown us.

I dont understnad why your complaining about how Kratos tactically assesses how to fight an opponent when this is about how Kratos has overpowred vast strength.

This is not a reply to what I said so I dont know what your trying to say here.

Originally posted by Burning thought
😆 but you said last time that the winner is the guy who can outfight the other? now your saying Hulk because of his stats is too strong, you know who replaces hulk in this matchup? Kratos, Gabriel may as well be a normal man at this point.

You cant defeat it, PSI works regardless of your claims concerning bees, a bee compared to the area [b]a normal human beings skin covers is tiny, it only has to break a small amount. When? last time I looked a super strong king of Gods using a war winning blade impaled a weak Kratos (depowered, no Titan magic in him yet, barely able to walk).

When has Gabriel held super heated hammers wielded by someone as big as hephastus? nonsense. The guy is a coward therefore his muscle mass and bone structure have become weaker than a mans, is that your argument? 😆 , no wonder you cannot understand how PSI works when you cannot even understand something like that.

It means that he can take a slap from thousands of tons of force without harm, thats what it means. Mass, e.g. perhaps 100-200+ tons, I dont know is trivial to the thousands of tons Kraots has already shown us.

I dont understnad why your complaining about how Kratos tactically assesses how to fight an opponent when this is about how Kratos has overpowred vast strength.

This is not a reply to what I said so I dont know what your trying to say here. [/B]

It's common sense that despite a weaker force in a bee it can pierce you just like Gabriel can slash his throat as opposed to crushing his entire body which Cronos tried to do. I am glad you finally agree that Gabriel can do so to a much smaller area. Kudos to me.

Gabriel has punched down a huge rock onto someone else which is kinda more impressive if you ask me. If you do that irl you break your hand and the boulder hardly moves so this shows how strong Gabriel is which is more impressive than resisting a lot of weight like a squat. I'll tell you what I want you to go to your local gym and first hold up 45 pounds as long as you can. Then I want you on another day to throw it up and punch it as hard as you can and see how far it goes. Tell me what is harder to do and what hurts you the most, k.

No, it means he can resist his hand momentarily to flee and later kill him. Gabriel isn't trying to crush his entire body so it's an irrelevant answer as I never claimed gabriel could crush his body which is what you are comparing it to.

I am saying he's smart for doing so because he has no chance against him otherwise with his small size.

It's simple no matter what planet you are on a troll isn't a compliment. Even charlie sheen hates them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying Kratos outfights his opposition he is fighting against people skilled and strong enough to kill him if given the chance. You are comparing the Hulk to a regular human being yet you don't see the problem therein ?

It's common sense that despite a weaker force in a bee it can pierce you just like Gabriel can slash his throat as opposed to crushing his entire body which Cronos tried to do. I am glad you finally agree that Gabriel can do so to a much smaller area. Kudos to me.

Gabriel has punched down a huge rock onto someone else which is kinda more impressive if you ask me. If you do that irl you break your hand and the boulder hardly moves so this shows how strong Gabriel is which is more impressive than resisting a lot of weight like a squat. I'll tell you what I want you to go to your local gym and first hold up 45 pounds as long as you can. Then I want you on another day to throw it up and punch it as hard as you can and see how far it goes. Tell me what is harder to do and what hurts you the most, k.

No, it means he can resist his hand momentarily to flee and later kill him. Gabriel isn't trying to crush his entire body so it's an irrelevant answer as I never claimed gabriel could crush his body which is what you are comparing it to.

I am saying he's smart for doing so because he has no chance against him otherwise with his small size.

It's simple no matter what planet you are on a troll isn't a compliment. Even charlie sheen hates them.

This is not evident. No I see the problem, which is the point, I am trying to make you understand how wrong it is to compare Gabriel to Kratos, or Kratos to a human.

🙄 The area comparison is terrible, a bee probably covers a square mm, on a human body that is huge by comparison. Kratos takes force on his hands/body, his overall durability on a scale is far higher than what Gabriel can do. Ill give yu kudos for making up some of the worst comparisons i have seen, happy?

I wont ask you in the future, your idea of whats impressive is warped. Wut? your saying its more impressive than resisiting thousands of tons just because he did not breaking a rock that weighs a few tons? wheres this thinking coming from? its terrible logic...

It doesnt matter how long he did it for, he still did it. Its not irrelevent, Kratos was unfazed, unharmed etc, agianst more force than Gabriel can use.

The guy is too fast, and more importantly has proven the strength to destroy Cronos, I have no doubt that if Kratos wanted to he could destroy cronos differently but this is probably the easiest for him tactically.

Everyone hates them tbh.

Originally posted by Burning thought
This is not evident. No I see the problem, which is the point, I am trying to make you understand how wrong it is to compare Gabriel to Kratos, or Kratos to a human.

🙄 The area comparison is terrible, a bee probably covers a square mm, on a human body that is huge by comparison. Kratos takes force on his hands/body, his overall durability on a scale is far higher than what Gabriel can do. Ill give yu kudos for making up some of the worst comparisons i have seen, happy?

I wont ask you in the future, your idea of whats impressive is warped. Wut? your saying its more impressive than resisiting thousands of tons just because he did not breaking a rock that weighs a few tons? wheres this thinking coming from? its terrible logic...

It doesnt matter how long he did it for, he still did it. Its not irrelevent, Kratos was unfazed, unharmed etc, agianst more force than Gabriel can use.

The guy is too fast, and more importantly has proven the strength to destroy Cronos, I have no doubt that if Kratos wanted to he could destroy cronos differently but this is probably the easiest for him tactically.

Everyone hates them tbh.

So you think crushing a body and slashing a throat requires the same force ? You serious ?

I'm saying resisting weight for a moment isn't as impressive as punching a boulder with your fist and not breaking your fist. To me that's more impressive than squatting a lot of weight. Both are impressive but since you want to look at this from a realistic perspective I have made it simple. The options are there for you to try and see for yourself.

So if I bench 300 pounds for one second that's the same thing as holding it up for 5 minutes ? Are you serious ? Don't you realize it's much harder to do so while your muscle is under tension for a longer period of time than for a moment. Seriously ?

Kratos is stronger which I have already stated but gabriel isn't going to try to crush his body in between his hands so I hardly see the relevance here.

I think Gabriel and Kratos have been shown they have the reflexes to take each other on. The only other way is for Kratos to avoid him and to blind him while attacking some other body part. Kratos can't just meet him on a battlefield and win while standing his own. Kratos needs to avoid him and hope he's in a situation where he can do enough damage while doing so.

So you agree it wasn't a compliment.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Gabriel isn't a human in anyway in fact he becomes vampiric and takes Forgotten One's powers but beside that no human could ever dare to do the things gabriel has done.

So you think crushing a body and slashing a throat requires the same force ? You serious ?

I'm saying resisting weight for a moment isn't as impressive as punching a boulder with your fist and not breaking your fist. To me that's more impressive than squatting a lot of weight. Both are impressive but since you want to look at this from a realistic perspective I have made it simple. The options are there for you to try and see for yourself.

So if I bench 300 pounds for one second that's the same thing as holding it up for 5 minutes ? Are you serious ? Don't you realize it's much harder to do so while your muscle is under tension for a longer period of time than for a moment. Seriously ?

Kratos is stronger which I have already stated but gabriel isn't going to try to crush his body in between his hands so I hardly see the relevance here.

I think Gabriel and Kratos have been shown they have the reflexes to take each other on. The only other way is for Kratos to avoid him and to blind him while attacking some other body part. Kratos can't just meet him on a battlefield and win while standing his own. Kratos needs to avoid him and hope he's in a situation where he can do enough damage while doing so.

So you agree it wasn't a compliment.

He may as well be one considering the differences in physical stats, you seem to think Hulks stats are important, well its the same here. Kratos has incredible stats.

I think slashing a throat of someone who can take tens of thousand sof tons of pressure takes more than a peak human+ who has a few tons of strength knocking a cross against it.

😆 and its ridiculous when in this case the weight is tens of thousands of tons compared to a few tons of rock. Making something realistic in theory does not mean you have to go and try and do something from the games irl, although i would love to see you try and lift up hundreds of tons or push a skyscraper.

If you benched 10,000 tons+ for 1 second, as impressive as lifting it up for 5 minutes would be, it would not matter because that 1 second is godlike enough, hence why Kratos is too strong. When is Kratos' 10,000ton+ lifting muslce going to be under tension against Gabriel and his couple of tons of strength? 😆

You brought up how you think Gabriel can rip Kratos in half, based on this even an area as small as his hands can take thousand of tons, I dont see Gabriel doing more than annoy him.

Kratos tried avoiding him, Kratos failed, but in the process proved even all Chronos' strength was simply not enough to damage Kratos and contiued to prove he can slash through Chronos' skin. Sure he could not jump on him and toss Chronos to the floor but you dont need to, to be an equel of someone. Your comparing Gabriel too much to Kratos, Gabriel has to hope hes not struck, Gabriel has to avoid everything because unlike Kratos he cannot take so much power.

I never said it was, although your one of the last people I would complement.

Originally posted by Burning thought
He may as well be one considering the differences in physical stats, you seem to think Hulks stats are important, well its the same here. Kratos has incredible stats.

I think slashing a throat of someone who can take tens of thousand sof tons of pressure takes more than a peak human+ who has a few tons of strength knocking a cross against it.

😆 and its ridiculous when in this case the weight is tens of thousands of tons compared to a few tons of rock. Making something realistic in theory does not mean you have to go and try and do something from the games irl, although i would love to see you try and lift up hundreds of tons or push a skyscraper.

If you benched 10,000 tons+ for 1 second, as impressive as lifting it up for 5 minutes would be, it would not matter because that 1 second is godlike enough, hence why Kratos is too strong. When is Kratos' 10,000ton+ lifting muslce going to be under tension against Gabriel and his couple of tons of strength? 😆

You brought up how you think Gabriel can rip Kratos in half, based on this even an area as small as his hands can take thousand of tons, I dont see Gabriel doing more than annoy him.

Kratos tried avoiding him, Kratos failed, but in the process proved even all Chronos' strength was simply not enough to damage Kratos and contiued to prove he can slash through Chronos' skin. Sure he could not jump on him and toss Chronos to the floor but you dont need to, to be an equel of someone. Your comparing Gabriel too much to Kratos, Gabriel has to hope hes not struck, Gabriel has to avoid everything because unlike Kratos he cannot take so much power.

I never said it was, although your one of the last people I would complement.

Kratos resisted his body being crushed for a moment but as you agree with a smaller area to gash it's much easier so you agree.

Do you want to argue based on real life anymore or have I proven my point ? Resisting a lot of weight isn't as impressive as pounding a boulder into someone and not hurting your hand.

You don't know what Cronos weighs and if I try to kill something with my fingers or with my hands I don't have anywhere near my full weight bearing down on anything. Kratos is really strong but that doesn't translate into uncuttable skin.

Gabriel easily ripped the Forgotten One in half. You didn't play through the dlc the guy's too powerful for Kratos at the end. It's insane.

I disagree and either way we look at it this isn't a weight lifting contest. Look at real life the stronger guy doesn't always win. By your logic I guess ronnie coleman can take Mike Tyson. Gabriel is a killer just like Kratos and this notion he can't hurt him goes against everything in the gow games. Everything with nothing to back it up.

It's spelled compliment by the way. I wanted to help you out, big guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk has actual showings where he's hard to pierce unlike Kratos and he has a healing factor that Kratos does not and the fact you are comparing Hulk to a human. Hulk would rip Kratos' head off with ease.

Kratos resisted his body being crushed for a moment but as you agree with a smaller area to gash it's much easier so you agree.

Do you want to argue based on real life anymore or have I proven my point ? Resisting a lot of weight isn't as impressive as pounding a boulder into someone and not hurting your hand.

You don't know what Cronos weighs and if I try to kill something with my fingers or with my hands I don't have anywhere near my full weight bearing down on anything. Kratos is really strong but that doesn't translate into uncuttable skin.

Gabriel easily ripped the Forgotten One in half. You didn't play through the dlc the guy's too powerful for Kratos at the end. It's insane.

I disagree and either way we look at it this isn't a weight lifting contest. Look at real life the stronger guy doesn't always win. By your logic I guess ronnie coleman can take Mike Tyson. Gabriel is a killer just like Kratos and this notion he can't hurt him goes against everything in the gow games. Everything with nothing to back it up.

It's spelled compliment by the way. I wanted to help you out, big guy.

Kratos has actual showings as well. Just llike Kratos will rip Gabriels head off with ease....again, playing silly buggers and pretending not to get the point.

I smaller area, .e.g 1mm2 perhaps on a normal human, its easier sure, but not by the amount your talking about. It probably takes thousands of tons rather than tens of thousands.

I will continue to argue based on logic, real logic not quanlogic....youve not proven any point other than your low comprehension of arguments.

I know he weighs thousands of tons. It does when you take thousands of tons to said skin, then clearly simple logic suggests you have vast durability.

😆 by my logic if Ronnie colson had 10,000 ton strength and durability, yes he would no doubt throttle Tyson with one finger but your talking shit again. Gabriel can kill small vampires, weak creatures but he cannot cut the skin of someone with thousands of tons of resistance.

I like how you whine about being called a troll but continue to do so.

yet somehow in the sequal to Lords of Shadow I see Gab as Drac get his butt beating by a human with a blessed holy whip, and buttload of holy items,who's name happens to be Simon. mark my words this is going to happen.

Cronos weighs millions of tons by the way. Not thousands.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos has actual showings as well. Just llike Kratos will rip Gabriels head off with ease....again, playing silly buggers and pretending not to get the point.

I smaller area, .e.g 1mm2 perhaps on a normal human, its easier sure, but not by the amount your talking about. It probably takes thousands of tons rather than tens of thousands.

I will continue to argue based on logic, real logic not quanlogic....youve not proven any point other than your low comprehension of arguments.

I know he weighs thousands of tons. It does when you take thousands of tons to said skin, then clearly simple logic suggests you have vast durability.

😆 by my logic if Ronnie colson had 10,000 ton strength and durability, yes he would no doubt throttle Tyson with one finger but your talking shit again. Gabriel can kill small vampires, weak creatures but he cannot cut the skin of someone with thousands of tons of resistance.

I like how you whine about being called a troll but continue to do so.

You have no proof and are speculating but you yourself agree.

Real logic says punching something as hard as rock is more impressive than lifting something really heavy.

No, it just shows he's strong enough to resist Cronos' hands or fingers for a moment but still gets cut by beings far smaller than Cronos.

Coleman is much stronger yet Tyson is strong enough to hurt him. Same point. Gabriel is strong enough to hurt him his fists aren't even phased by boulders.

Gabriel can kill powerful vampires, old gods like Pan, Lycans, dark angels, death lords, huge titans, and powerful demons. Yeah, Kratos is in for it.

I didn't whine I simply understood it as an insult to which you tried saying it wasn't. I'm used to winning and making my points clear unlike yourself who is used to insulting because he lacks debating skill.

Originally posted by unrealman
yet somehow in the sequal to Lords of Shadow I see Gab as Drac get his butt beating by a human with a blessed holy whip, and buttload of holy items,who's name happens to be Simon. mark my words this is going to happen.