Originally posted by srankmissingninHe's hiding behind that thinks if you take a blade shot to no damage in a cutscene that you can't be harmed by that person wielding the blade so according to his own logic Gabriel can no sell sword strikes from powerful, massive characters that dwarf his weight. But watch he won't apply this logic to gabriel he will twist it around and continue to use double standards.
Doesn't anything with a QTE fall under the purview of Gameplay Mechanics? 😈
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just gave two feats that also occur in canon gameplay of him overpowering someone who dwarfs him and resisting a huge blade which knocked him back 20 feet with no damage. Those are what you asked for.Gabriel doesn't have to be heavy because he overpowered someone far heavier than him. He can also due so to skill and since he isn't anywhere near as strong as the ogre when you face him I've proven he's still strong and agile enough to kill and overpower him.
That last sentence applies to you not me and you keep asking for proof when you played through the game. Did you really do so ?
I have yet to see it, it would take 10 seconds to prove your claim with a youtube video. Personally, I dont remember him canonically actually getting struck by these attacks.
But far far weaker than Kratos. Killing an ogre and killing Kratos are incredibly different.
You still need evidence regardless of who played what, especially when concerning you who makes things up.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI don't care if you remember it or not. The fact you're unaware either proves you remember very little if anything about the game making your opinion invalid as you simply don't recall or you didn't play it. I don't care if you believe me or not I'm right and you're wrong.
I have yet to see it, it would take 10 seconds to prove your claim with a youtube video. Personally, I dont remember him canonically actually getting struck by these attacks.But far far weaker than Kratos. Killing an ogre and killing Kratos are incredibly different.
You still need evidence regardless of who played what, especially when concerning you who makes things up.
You asked for an example of someone the size of hephaestus to which I supplied the ogre feat so now even though you asked for proof and I did my thing you distance yourself because you honestly didn't think it existed and proof is irrelevant to you. Kratos will still be hurt by Gabriel saying otherwise is just making up things.
No, I don't. I told you what happened and when. I won't go thumbing around youtube just because you're ignorant on Gabriel despite arguing against him. That's the thing it shows you really don't have a clue.
Originally posted by menokokoroBased on ?
The only reason Belmont stands a chance here is that he may be slightly faster, even then though....a single hit from Kratos kills belmont.
Originally posted by quanchi112....common sense? What is the most impressive strength feat of both? Kratos overpowered Atlas, you know, the guy holding up the earth, Belmont what...stopped a warewolf from eating his face? Idk, I haven't played it often enough to remember, but nothing was noteworthy enough to even compare to Kratos. Do you really think that Belmont would live through a hit from someone THAT strong?
Based on ?
Originally posted by NemeBroHe isn't faster at all. He is stronger but who cares this is about who kills the other first and just because someone is stronger doesn't make them a superior combatant.
Kratos is much faster than Gabriel though.And obviously stronger and more durable.
Originally posted by menokokoroYes, I do. Considering he's tanked attacks from stronger foes who also outweighed him by thousands if not more pounds. Also Belmont gets scary powerful at the end of the dlc to the point of absurdity.
....common sense? What is the most impressive strength feat of both? Kratos overpowered Atlas, you know, the guy holding up the earth, Belmont what...stopped a warewolf from eating his face? Idk, I haven't played it often enough to remember, but nothing was noteworthy enough to even compare to Kratos. Do you really think that Belmont would live through a hit from someone THAT strong?
Originally posted by quanchi112....what? He tanked an attack from someone more powerful than atlas? What is more absurd than that?
Yes, I do. Considering he's tanked attacks from stronger foes who also outweighed him by thousands if not more pounds. Also Belmont gets scary powerful at the end of the dlc to the point of absurdity.
@quanchi112 I read some of the conversation in the page before, and you don't seem to understand how "canon" feats work. Unless the gameplay feats are unavoidable, meant to happen regardless of what you do, or it was said that something was done the way it was while playing, they mean nothing. Being stabbed in the heart by an arrow and living means nothing while playing a game. and your reference to dante being injured by the marionettes was a bad move, those gameplay feats actually weaken dante's actual power, he has been impaled by several reapers at once and he calmly....wrong game, my point is, don't take anything that happens in gameplay as canon unless it is completely obvious it is.
Quanchi has no understanding of how a games vs works in general, games usually dont have different writers who can downplay or overpower specific characters like comics do, we take each feat as a canon fact and logically argue it against others. At the moment Quanchi uses a far far weaker character then claims against Kratos' strength that far outweighs anything in his verse.
A gameplay mechanic is just that, a mechanic. If games like Modern warfare and Black ops were allowed in here, he would be the guy argueing the soldiers are superhuman because they can take a few shots from guns and then run off to hide and regenerate with their uber healing factor!
Originally posted by menokokoroI think the Forgotten One is more powerful than Atlas but that's beside the point since Gabriel is strong enough to hurt him.
....what? He tanked an attack from someone more powerful than atlas? What is more absurd than that?
Originally posted by menokokoroI've cited canon gameplay feats as well with him easily tanking the black night's sword attack launching him over twenty feet and him overpowering the Ogre as well with his own super strength.
@quanchi112 I read some of the conversation in the page before, and you don't seem to understand how "canon" feats work. Unless the gameplay feats are unavoidable, meant to happen regardless of what you do, or it was said that something was done the way it was while playing, they mean nothing. Being stabbed in the heart by an arrow and living means nothing while playing a game. and your reference to dante being injured by the marionettes was a bad move, those gameplay feats actually weaken dante's actual power, he has been impaled by several reapers at once and he calmly....wrong game, my point is, don't take anything that happens in gameplay as canon unless it is completely obvious it is.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI've cited numerous examples of canon gameplay as well. You unlike many on here assume the guys are invulnerable just because they tank an attack in a canon cutscene which is completely ridiculous and illogical.
Quanchi has no understanding of how a games vs works in general, games usually dont have different writers who can downplay or overpower specific characters like comics do, we take each feat as a canon fact and logically argue it against others. At the moment Quanchi uses a far far weaker character then claims against Kratos' strength that far outweighs anything in his verse.A gameplay mechanic is just that, a mechanic. If games like Modern warfare and Black ops were allowed in here, he would be the guy argueing the soldiers are superhuman because they can take a few shots from guns and then run off to hide and regenerate with their uber healing factor!
Originally posted by TheGoldenSpyLords of Shadow would tear into the gow verse. The only think they have is more games but los has many numerous enemies and would make a war of it.
GOW posiedon could solo lords of shadow by himself and kratos ate that guy for breakfast. He closed him down.
Lords of Shadow would tear into the gow verse. The only think they have is more games but los has many numerous enemies and would make a war of it.
Correction, Poseidon Floods the planet and then shoots electricity at the water, half of those castlevania cockroaches are dead. Poseidon sends his water beasts to tear a new one to anyone not smart enough to commit sepuku. It would be a blood orgy, and castlevania would provide the blood.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've cited numerous examples of canon gameplay as well. You unlike many on here assume the guys are invulnerable just because they tank an attack in a canon cutscene which is completely ridiculous and illogical.
Youve cited examples, we dont even know if their true, I dont recall half these things youve claimed so you need to show me him taking blows in canon, and your confused about what constitutes as canon anyway since not all gameplay, certainly not mechanics are feats. No, everyone who does any math concerning Kratos or any other character can state clearly that these characters are invulnerable to any less punishment than they have taken. If someone can take a nuclear bomb to the face and live, a man with a sword cannot just run up and cut him in half....if Kratos for example can take a titan slap, a God strike or god knows all the things hes taken beyond Gabriel then hes not going to be hurt by Gabriel.
Simple logic and physics.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lords of Shadow would tear into the gow verse. The only think they have is more games but los has many numerous enemies and would make a war of it.
😆 what bullshit, one GoW God would destroy the LoSverse. Probably would not even have to use a God, a Titan could trip over and probably crush most of them.
The only thing that could give them any advantage is a no limit fallacy/speculation based around the God mask.
Originally posted by quanchi112.....I'm sorry, but you are simply too dence to debate with....but alas I cannot help myself.
I think the Forgotten One is more powerful than Atlas but that's beside the point since Gabriel is strong enough to hurt him.I've cited canon gameplay feats as well with him easily tanking the black night's sword attack launching him over twenty feet and him overpowering the Ogre as well with his own super strength.
I've cited numerous examples of canon gameplay as well. You unlike many on here assume the guys are invulnerable just because they tank an attack in a canon cutscene which is completely ridiculous and illogical.
Lords of Shadow would tear into the gow verse. The only think they have is more games but los has many numerous enemies and would make a war of it.
The forgotten one? are you frikin kidding me? What does the forgotten one do that is more impressive than LIFTING THE EARTH!? Until you can show me...well anyone in that universe that powerful, and don't just say you think they are that tough, show me WHY they are that tough, it doesn't work that way.
oooh my, overpowering the ogre! Cuz kratos doesn't do that on a regular basis.
How is using a canon feat illogical?
Originally posted by TheGoldenSpyYeah, right. The Forgotten One would simply disintegrate Poseidon and would have laugh off the electricity like a stinky fart.
Correction, Poseidon Floods the planet and then shoots electricity at the water, half of those castlevania cockroaches are dead. Poseidon sends his water beasts to tear a new one to anyone not smart enough to commit sepuku. It would be a blood orgy, and castlevania would provide the blood.
Originally posted by menokokoroLifting strength doesn't mean you are invulnerable to the Forgotten One's attacks. It seems like you erroneously believe the stronger guy always wins which is foolhardy to say mildly.
.....I'm sorry, but you are simply too dence to debate with....but alas I cannot help myself.The forgotten one? are you frikin kidding me? What does the forgotten one do that is more impressive than LIFTING THE EARTH!? Until you can show me...well anyone in that universe that powerful, and don't just say you think they are that tough, show me WHY they are that tough, it doesn't work that way.
oooh my, overpowering the ogre! Cuz kratos doesn't do that on a regular basis.
How is using a canon feat illogical?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtI've told you where these feats happen. That's as good as it gets. You claim to have played the game so pop it in or do the youtube searches yourself.
Youve cited examples, we dont even know if their true, I dont recall half these things youve claimed so you need to show me him taking blows in canon, and your confused about what constitutes as canon anyway since not all gameplay, certainly not mechanics are feats. No, everyone who does any math concerning Kratos or any other character can state clearly that these characters are invulnerable to any less punishment than they have taken. If someone can take a nuclear bomb to the face and live, a man with a sword cannot just run up and cut him in half....if Kratos for example can take a titan slap, a God strike or god knows all the things hes taken beyond Gabriel then hes not going to be hurt by Gabriel.Simple logic and physics.
😆 what bullshit, one GoW God would destroy the LoSverse. Probably would not even have to use a God, a Titan could trip over and probably crush most of them.
The only thing that could give them any advantage is a no limit fallacy/speculation based around the God mask.
Kratos has resisted Cronos but been killed by less in that of Zeus so despite him being able to resist Cronos this doesn't translate into anything less can't hurt him unless you ignore canon feats and the entire gameplay of what can kill him throughout each game. You ignore portrayal to the point of being sickening.
False. The los would definitely put up a fight. The advantage gow has is more games that's it. That makes it an unfair comparison.
It seems like you erroneously believe the stronger guy always wins which is foolhardy to say mildly.
Kratos has resisted Cronos but been killed by less in that of Zeus
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've told you where these feats happen. That's as good as it gets. You claim to have played the game so pop it in or do the youtube searches yourself.Kratos has resisted Cronos but been killed by less in that of Zeus so despite him being able to resist Cronos this doesn't translate into anything less can't hurt him unless you ignore canon feats and the entire gameplay of what can kill him throughout each game. You ignore portrayal to the point of being sickening.
False. The los would definitely put up a fight. The advantage gow has is more games that's it. That makes it an unfair comparison.
Burdon of proof is yours, nobody has to go looking for your evidence. If you dont post anything then you have no evidence.
Zeus was not less though AND he was using a sword, Zeus' strength is arguably not too far in difference to Kratos'.
😆 more games? not at all, its an unfair comparison because its chracters are vastly more powerful.
Originally posted by BloodRainThat's a fair point but I think Gabriel is too powerful for even Kratos by the end of the game. Most are debating gabriel pre dlc amps.
Its safe to say that the stronger person would win if the combatants speed, skills, abilities etc arent that different.If Kratos is a slight stronger than that Cronos hit, and Zeus is a slight stronger than Kratos, wouldn't Zeus' hits be above that of Cronos?
I don't think Zeus is stronger than Cronos without him amping his size.