Originally posted by Burning thought
He lives without it because in the words of the devs "his nature as the scion of balance allows him to", nothing to do with vampirism. Also you just re-stated here, not countered, Kains chest was healed, not the heart of darkness restored and prove he still feeds on blood, that claim is impossible since his body has no physical requirements, not even the object of his life and soul anchor.
You're still not aswering the question: where is it said the heart is the base of the vampire's existence? Yes, Kain's chest was healed, do you have any reason to suspect he's still heartless? Even after Kain is revived he still needs blood to survive in gameplay. If they wanted to show he didn't they could have pulled a Soul Reaver 2 and made him not lose health.
Thats impressive? its just pressure, small amounts like a little explosion. He doesnt destroy brick though, it stays fairly solid, it seems he breaks the mortar between it. Hang on, "known weakness"? he can be destroyed as Blood omen 2 Kain by magnus, Magnus who blasting statues to piecies>>>knocking bricks from their mortar on a Kain whos so far below the one in this thread its laughable.
Same as Magnus, same thing that kills Kain. First of all, you're still clinging to a destruction animation which doesn't help you, since I've already shown you Bowser doing the same thing to metal pipes, and burning things underwater. Fire is a known weakness of all vampires, how can you still be denying this? Destroying bricks, metal, stone, coral, and fully grown trees, several times underwater > destroying stone. Kain will die.
No you didnt, show me this proof? you made the claim that apprently Bowser breaking stone was impressive...I countered by the fact Raziels pressure at his claws is vastly beyond this...
And you know as well as I do that Raziel can't destroy stone. He's pierced it several times and can kick it around, but he is totally unable to break any kind of stone. You fail to realize that Bowser's tanked stone breaking forces behind spikes, which are in turn far beyond Raziel.
In your case though the force Dark bowser jumps with is only enough to launch him a few meters in the air and fall down on Bowser, double his weight and youve got pressures probably barely enough to crush a car, if that.
False, you don't know how high he jumped since it was done offscreen. Further, you're ignoring Dark Bowser's ability to charge in mid air, which adds even more force. Also false, since Bowser doing the same has shown enough force to shatter several meters of stone, far, far greater than any car.
Their just removed from the game, you have no case to say what happened them. Your just assuming, your also looking too much into a gameplay constant no more important than pokemon shredding grass and trees, its just a method of moving through the world. You would have something if you had a cutscene of Bowser actually visually turnign a tree to ash.
They were on fire, you have no case to say they just disappeared. You're the one assuming that fire makes things just go away, in which I have no problem with Bowser just making Kain disappear in this manner.
It simply means he did not lose the ability to percieve and exist, thats it. Nothing there about stopping him from being dissolved by water or increasing his reisstance. Kain afaik never canonically falls in water and when he does in the gameplay he takes damage or turns into bats to avoid damage, its still canon and storyline that Dumahim lay in water for centuries and were still able to revive once it is removed. The fact is though, Kain has proven that removing the object of his life, even the primary object such as the heart of darkness does not destroy him or stop him hence why he is truly immortal.
Exactly, he would have ceased to exist. Or, in layman's terms, been dead. Because of the water. You're still denying that vampires are weak to water, just like fire, despite multiple examples and statements that they are. Remember Umah's warnings? "Water is dealy to vampires, and immersion in water can kill us," ring a bell? You should be taking the hint from game, Kain falling in water will ruin his day. BTW, you still haven't really proved that the heart is the object of life for vampires.
😆 too small, Mario bros go so far as to actually alter Bowsers functions and even amp him on several ocasions beyond his normal limits, being too small to do anything is a lie. Heated air? sit a meter or so from lava and then call it heated air, heated to the point where its still enough to sear flesh yet Kains mist is still surviving within heat far beyond Bowsers "brick mortar" busting fire 😄
Your plan is now to have Kain amping Bowser, congratulations. The Mario Bros. never could harm Bowser from where they were, even drilling into parts of his body did nothing. Everything they did to alter his functions were in specific places such as pressure points, and all of those ended up helping Bowser, not hurting him. Kain might amp Bowser by hitting the right spot. Heck, the Dark Star roaming around his body eating his DNA did nothing to hinder him. Air heated to the point where it's enough to sear flesh is still heated air. What else sears flesh? Fire does, that's for sure, so it'll be damaging Kain all the same.
What fire? show me Bowser doing fast fire because so far youve shown me fire thats takes seconds to do, even if its a breath. Yeh because Bowsers inhaled someone with as much strength and resistance as Kain before...oh wait...all he would achive is a reaver in the face followed by death.
Go back a few pages, I'm sure you'll find something, such as those he can launch continuously or the meteors. Why would the speed matter again? Kain's not that fast. Yeh, Bowser has inhaled something as heavy as Kain is, and that's all that matters. Bowser's getting a tasty treat, followed by gas.