Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Then please provide it. Hard evidence will prove your words, not your words alone.
Honestly on principle alone,I would not have change this, because Trackz dam well knows the rules,a dn was stretching them badly to give his boy the win.
Originally posted by Trackz
1. Blade is stationed in England with MI:13, their resources are his.
2. Dr. Strange was a long-time team mate and friend, how is that pushing the prep limitations?
3. You're saying with all the magic and what not Blade has access to, it's not enough to beat Wolverine? There are various demons and weapons MI:13 has access to that Blade can use to his advantage.
The same reason Captain America with prep doesn't mean he can go to Tony Stark or Mr Fantastic, or Dick Grayson with prep can't go to Dr Fate and Bruce. It isn't a who has the better friends contest, it is a prep scenario to see what a character can accomplish with their own means if they are given the opportunity.
There is no reason to make the assumption that any magical or enchanted weapon Blade has ever used would have any effect what so ever on Wolverine. Blade preps to fight supernatural creatures, all of which have easily exploited weaknesses. What has Blade ever down with prep that makes you think he would show up to fight Wolverine and have an advantage? What weapons is he going to bring?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The same reason Captain America with prep doesn't mean he can go to Tony Stark or Mr Fantastic, or Dick Grayson with prep can't go to Dr Fate and Bruce. It isn't a who has the better friends contest, it is a prep scenario to see what a character can accomplish with their own means if they are given the opportunity.
This.
When I originally made the second scenario, I was under the assumption that what would be assumed was that Blade would only have access to what he himself could procure or what MI:13 would normally requisition to him for a field mission. In hindsight, I now see I should have stated that, but it's too late now since I can't edit the post after the first 15 minutes.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
This.When I originally made the second scenario, I was under the assumption that what would be assumed was that Blade would only have access to what he himself could procure or what MI:13 would normally requisition to him for a field mission. In hindsight, I now see I should have stated that, but it's too late now since I can't edit the post after the first 15 minutes.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlkvoodoo is dead either way and no strange doesn't have the darkhold. It took Blade less than a week to get ahold of it the first time and become switch blade, hell with MI:13's help he goes to Chthon himself and gets imbued with the power. SwitchBlade would annihilate Wolverine.
The Darkhold is either in Doctor Strange's custody or Brother Voodoo's. As I said, Blade is not allowed to seek aide from any top mage.
Originally posted by Trackz
voodoo is dead either way and no strange doesn't have the darkhold. It took Blade less than a week to get ahold of it the first time and become switch blade, hell with MI:13's help he goes to Chthon himself and gets imbued with the power. SwitchBlade would annihilate Wolverine.
U do realise ur pretty much admitting blade needs an entire government sanction team tech and doctor strange to take wolverine........
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The same reason Captain America with prep doesn't mean he can go to Tony Stark or Mr Fantastic, or Dick Grayson with prep can't go to Dr Fate and Bruce. It isn't a who has the better friends contest, it is a prep scenario to see what a character can accomplish with their own means if they are given the opportunity.There is no reason to make the assumption that any magical or enchanted weapon Blade has ever used would have any effect what so ever on Wolverine. Blade preps to fight supernatural creatures, all of which have easily exploited weaknesses. What has Blade ever down with prep that makes you think he would show up to fight Wolverine and have an advantage? What weapons is he going to bring?
SwitchBlade? Vampiric Ebony Blade?
Captain America also has access to Avengers resources with prep.
Not sure what you're referring too, Blade's magical weapons (save for the wordsword which would clearly only work on demons) are magic and there's no reason to assume magic wouldn't work on Wolverine when demonic energy and such has been shown to work on him previously.
Originally posted by Mr.MxyzptlkProbably the last time I'll entertain your pleas for evidence. Fact that you already vomited up this sphenoid bone argument leads me to believe you're already aware of the on-panel evidence:
Then please provide it. Hard evidence will prove your words, not your words alone.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Probably the last time I'll entertain your pleas for evidence. Fact that you already vomited up this sphenoid bone argument leads me to believe you're already aware of the on-panel evidence:
2 Dumb 2 Furious 2 The Cradle 2 The Grave Reloaded: The Phantom Menace, Return of the Phantom Bone Theory
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine takes a shot to the eye from a high powered machine gun to the eye. He is completely unphased and digs out the shell with his fingers:Takes an anti material sniper rifle bullet to the eye, doesn't even slow his stride:
Takes a shot gun blast to the eye. Kills the shooters and picks out the buckshot:
Weapon X thinks that an Anti-metal bullet is required to take Wolverine down with a head shot even from one of the best marksmen in Marvel U. The bullet is replaced with a standard round since the Director doesn't what Wolverine to have it that easy. Clearly Weapon X doesn't think a normal bullet would get into the brain from behind the eye. But what do they know? They only gave him his Adamantium in first place.
Two more possible ones
Wolverine possible takes a hand gun round to the eye. He goes down for a few seconds, but Rucka's Wolverine was shown to be koed by a sniper rifle bullet to even to the side of the head. Rucka's Wolverine was more of a bullet dodger than most incarnations:
Winter Soldiers sniper takes a shot at Wolverine. It's not clear where he is shot in the face but we can see his face as he falls and there is no bullet wound or blood leaving the only possible entry point the eye socket that is in shadow:
Those are examples I tracked down from memory off the top of my head, I'm sure if I bothered to look I would find more. I wish this assine crap had come up while jinzin and I were creating the respect thread and going through every Wolverine appearance. Common sense shit we didn't bother to included or take not of because we VASTLY over estimated the general intelligance of posters on KMC.
This theory is absurd. It flies directly into the face of on panel. Evidence that shows Wolverine has the bones that would needed be missing for this to be possible, evidence that shows even weaker incarnations of Wolverine being shot in the eye to no avail, and of course general anatomy. It is a contradiction to virtually everything we know or have seen of Wolverine. Quite frankly anyone who thinks this is a valid theory that needs discussion or warrants discourse is an idiot.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
2 Dumb 2 Furious 2 The Cradle 2 The Grave Reloaded: The Phantom Menace, Return of the Phantom Bone Theory
In the first one, is the "five minutes later" referring to the time it takes the guy to stop shooting or the time it takes wolverine to heal?
In the third one both of his eyes are fine.
The second one looks to be the only legit one.
Originally posted by Trackz
SwitchBlade? Vampiric Ebony Blade?Captain America also has access to Avengers resources with prep.
Not sure what you're referring too, Blade's magical weapons (save for the wordsword which would clearly only work on demons) are magic and there's no reason to assume magic wouldn't work on Wolverine when demonic energy and such has been shown to work on him previously.
Wasn't the page that bonded Blade with a portion of the Demogorge destroyed? I'm not sure he could become Switchblade again anyway, since IIRC only humans could read the spell (I know only a human could reverse it at least). Hard to say how Wolverine vs Swtichblade would go, it depends on how many supernatural creatures Blade absorbs prior to the fight and which ones but Blade would have the advantage.
It is a stretch to assume the magic weapons he uses would have any effect on Wolverine. Blade fights against Vampires, Demons, Werewolves, a simple blessing or sanctification would do the trick. Wolverine doesn't have any weaknesses to holy artifacts, and I don't believe we can operate under the assumption that Blade's weapons are equally as effective on non supernatural entities as they are on super natural ones, because they have never have been shown or suggest to be.
Originally posted by Trackz
In the first one, is the "five minutes later" referring to the time it takes the guy to stop shooting or the time it takes wolverine to heal?In the third one both of his eyes are fine.
The second one looks to be the only legit one.
Thats because they healed.
u need better reading comprehension.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wasn't the page that bonded Blade with a portion of the Demogorge destroyed? I'm not sure he could become Switchblade again anyway, since IIRC only humans could read the spell (I know only a human could reverse it at least). Hard to say how Wolverine vs Swtichblade would go, it depends on how many supernatural creatures Blade absorbs prior to the fight and which ones but Blade would have the advantage.It is a stretch to assume the magic weapons he uses would have any effect on Wolverine. Blade fights against Vampires, Demons, Werewolves, a simple blessing or sanctification would do the trick. Wolverine doesn't have any weaknesses to holy artifacts, and I don't believe we can operate under the assumption that Blade's weapons are equally as effective on non supernatural entities as they are on super natural ones, because they have never have been shown or suggest to be.
No it wasn't, the penance stare stunned Blade for a bit and they read another spell which reversed his transformation. Blade's never been a human, even back then he was always a Dhampir and couldn't be turned.
Blade, even right after reading the darkhold, single handedly beat Werewolf by Night, Frank Drake, and Hannibal King, and wrecked Ghost Rider right after. SwitchBlade should definitely beat Wolverine, or he could just go around for the rest of the month killing monsters which is what he does in his free time anyway.
The magic weapons Blade uses dont use the weaknesses of the monsters theyre against. Everyone knows the weaknesses of vampires and such, they dont have a weakness to any other magic though. That's why Dr. Strange and Ghost Rider still have hard times combatting vampires and such (an average vampire tooled Ghost Rider back when he was weaker of course).
The bolo he used in x-men was analyzed by Dr. Nemesis and he couldn't understand how it worked, he just knew it did. (meaning it didn't utilize any of the vampires weaknesses).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ All circumstantial (particularly the ones where Wolverine gets laid out). The last one is just lulz. The scans I posted that actually penetrate Wolverine's brain are not circumstantial. Get over it.I can't believe you haven't gotten over this.
You have one example of Wolverine getting shot in the eye, and even in your example he is only dropped for a few seconds. Hell he isn't even koed when immediately after his powers are turned off by scrambler. I could say the bullet in that instance never made it passed the sphenoid bone, and I would have more of a leg to stand on then you do, especially since my believe actually falls in line with the rest of Wolverine continuity.
What does Wolverine getting shot with a crossbow in the ear, have to do with the ability to shoot Wolverine through the eye socket? Nothing. What does Deadpool doing... um... what ever he was supposed to have done there, have to do with the ability to shoot Wolverine through the eye socket? Nothing. What does Mystique shooting him through the nasal passage have to do with the ability to shoot Wolverine through the eye socket? Nothing. You have a single example of Wolverine getting shot in the eye... and even that was pretty ineffective. The only example you have that is possible and isn't directly contradicted by the rest of Wolverine's continuity and feats is the Mystique example.
These excuses are as sad as they are hilarious. Why would you post scans where it's equally just as possible that Wolverine had his brain penetrated through his eye and healed back from it? Get over it guys. Seriously.
Wolverine can have his brain penetrated through his skull. Why? Because it's happened numerous times on-panel. <--- This would be the end of discussion if we were arguing that Superman can have his energy drained, or Thor needs Mjolnir to fly, etc.
This being Wolverine, and the notion offending your delicate sensibilities about him, doesn't change that. Clear evidence rules.
And acting like I don't have multiple examples is retarded. You want to rely on the possible theory that Wolverine's skull should be exactly like a human skull with no gaps large enough for bullets/claws to penetrate cleanly?
Sorry. That possibility is busted by the numerous times Woverine's skull has been proven to have gaps large enough for bullets/claws/arrows penetrate. This projection of real life anatomy onto a fictional feral mutant is, and always has been, still-born based on clear, non-circumstantial on-panel evidence. Which is why all those examples are posted. Much to your butt-hurt chagrin, I'm sure. One should have been enough. A few is overkill. And here, we have more than a bunch.
Get. Over. It.
sorry but how does different location evidence to support one another?
I fail to see how a shot through eye, is evidence for shot through the jaw, is evidence for shot through the nose, is evidence for a shot through the ear.
How on earth can u not understand that they are not evidence that support one another. There each different location, and for ur arguement to be possible, logan head would look like a friggin jig saw puzzle. How on earth can u earth can u even argue that?
