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Dude, who did Post Retcon Beyonder fight? MM with a SLIVER of the power he had hidden within Marsha AND he LOST. So a full cube being lost vs a being with a sliver of the power of half a cosmic cube (MM who was half a cosmic cube left a sliver of his power with Marsha before he merged with the Beyonder to form a full cube being).
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
As with the Super Adapatoid vs Kubik fight, a sliver of CCU power can be used to duplicate the power of a full cube...Thus I fail to see the relevance of Post Beyonder losing to Owen under such conditions...
Because MM was later killed by Sentry?
Hell Aaron the Rogue Watcher beat MM.
Originally posted by zopzop
But Thanos survived and went on to beat the Maker. Much later when Aegis and Teneberous were introduced, they were described by Galactus as being FAR more dangerous than the Maker.
Thanos only won because the Maker was having a nervous break down and attacked far less forcefully in the rematch than it did during the initial confrontation; compare the magnitude of that lone eyebeam to its other attacks...its night and day.
And sure, T and A were more dangerous; The Maker personality was unbalanced and was subject to sabotage itself (which is EXACTLY what happened during the rematch against Thanos)...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
They have been jobbing Owen out lately...
MM is dead, like the Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker.
In fact, Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker was so over-rated, remember when Thanos stated that, he didn't want to kill Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker's physical body because that would unleash Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker on the universe? Well, Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker's physical body DIED in the Annihilation Event and guess what? Nothing happened.
And like I stated earlier, Galactus himself said that Aegis/Teneberous were FAR more dangerous than the Maker.
Originally posted by zopzop
MM is dead, like the Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker.In fact, Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker was so over-rated, remember when Thanos stated that, he didn't want to kill Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker's physical body because that would unleash Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker on the universe? Well, Beyonder/Kosmos/Maker's physical body DIED in the Annihilation Event and guess what? Nothing happened.
And like I stated earlier, Galactus himself said that Aegis/Teneberous were FAR more dangerous than the Maker.
Marvel based inconsistency as pertains nothing happening when its body died...
And I already addressed T and A vs Post Beyonder; T and A would never have a mental meltdown and make themselves vulnerable...but the Maker did...so that makes the Maker much less dangerous than the other 2.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Marvel based inconsistency as pertains nothing happening when its body died...And I already addressed T and A vs Post Beyonder; T and A would never have a mental meltdown and make themselves vulnerable...but the Maker did...so that makes the Maker much less dangerous than the other 2.
That still doesn't explain why nothing happened when the Maker died. She's dead and gone, like the MM and nothing happened.
In fact, unless I'm mistaken, the SAME writer was involved with the Thanos series that featured the Maker AND the issue during the Annihilation Event that had Maker killed!
Originally posted by zopzop
Does it? Odin didn't amp and when Tyrant was about to go for the kill Thanos tped away.
Odin may not have amped, but he did call Gungnir; evidently he felt the need to bring more firepower into the fight...Odin wasnt having a whole lot of success against Thanos with his handblasts.
And Thanos tanked several attacks from DP Tyrant (one of which was a two handed handblast and the blast that destroyed much of Tyrants base); The Maker took Thanos out with a single eyebeam in comparison...
Originally posted by zopzop
That still doesn't explain why nothing happened when the Maker died. She's dead and gone, like the MM and nothing happened.In fact, unless I'm mistaken, the SAME writer was involved with the Thanos series that featured the Maker AND the issue during the Annihilation Event that had Maker killed!
The Maker clearly wasnt important to the story, so they ignored it...
Thanos is brilliant..extremely intelligent...he wouldnt have made that claim about the Maker/Beyonder unless it was true.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Odin may not have amped, but he did call Gungnir; evidently he felt the need to bring more firepower into the fight...Odin wasnt having a whole lot of success against Thanos with his handblasts.And Thanos tanked several attacks from DP Tyrant (one of which was a two handed handblast and the blast that destroyed much of Tyrants base); The Maker took Thanos out with a single eyebeam in comparison...
It's still meaningless in the long run. Characters have low showings and high showings. Fact remains, the very same writer for both events featuring the Maker apparently thought she was "FAR less dangerous" than Aegis or Teneberous. As we saw, Teneberous took Galactus by suprise and still couldn't put him down, till Aegis hit him from behind.
A/T couldn't put down the SS, while Odin one shotted (as has Tyrant) him.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The Maker clearly wasnt important to the story, so they ignored it...Thanos is brilliant..extremely intelligent...he wouldnt have made that claim about the Maker/Beyonder unless it was true.
I hate to repeat myself (same writer for both stories disagrees), but apparently it wasn't true .
I dont think its meaningless; we have a mutual opponent (Thanos) vs DP Tyrant, Odin, and Post Retcon Beyonder...
PR Beyonder was the only 1 of the 3 that proved capable of one shotting Thanos and he did it with a mere, single, eyebeam...
The others may not have been going all out, but nevertheless, they both put far more into their fights against Thanos than a single eyebeam...