Originally posted by Mindset
No.Neither did the fact that Beyonder erased Death on panel...
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Srsly. What's not computing? Is what I said too complicated?
Kosmos : Kubik I've met these beings in my previous existence
Kubik : No, you encountered shadows/reflections of them. Partial incarnations sent by the great powers to ease your transition into awareness. You never fought against them as you believed. Still they concern themselves with creatures as insignificant as ourselves.
Originally posted by Galan007
Beyonder destroys Death during SWII:
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Death's 2006 OHOTMU bio confirms the above:Some of Beyonder's feats in SWII (mainly those pertaining to Celestials) were retconned. Most of his other feats, however, (such as the one I posted above) are still canon to this day.
That's nice. But check the issue. Kubik was giving a tour of the Universe to Kosmos and that's when she stated she met these beings. Then he corrected her. Fantastic Four Annual 23.
So unless you got on panel proof disputing this, there's nothing to discuss.
You can't really be serious, can you?
a.) In the F4 book you mentioned, Death was never shown, mentioned, or even alluded to.
b.) The F4 annual was released in 1990. The Death bio I posted was released in 2006. The most current info = the most canonical, and the most current info solidifies Beyonder erasing/recreating Death during SWII as 100% canon.
This isn't hard.
Originally posted by Galan007
You can't really be serious, can you?a.) In the F4 book you mentioned, Death was never shown, mentioned, or even alluded to.
b.) The F4 annual was released in 1990. The Death bio I posted was released in 2006. The most current info = the most canonical, and the most current info solidifies Beyonder erasing/recreating Death during SWII as 100% canon.This isn't hard.
Are YOU serious?
The Cosmic Tour covered everyone from the PF up the LT and everything in between. Order, Chaos, Mephisto and other demons, Death, the Watchers, the Celestials, Galactus (so much for that "win" against him), etc...
So ON PANEL we have this information that is more recent that SWII incident and all you have is an incorrect Handbook entry.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I was always under the impression that the "beings" referred to were the Celestials as the prior page focused on them.
Except for the fact that they encounter MANY beings prior and in that same "Tier" as the Celestials there were other powers and principalities.
It don't get much clearer than that.
So unless this changed ON PANEL at a later date, it stands. And if it did change, can someone post a scan?
Originally posted by zopzopDeath wasn't mentioned as one of the beings Kosmos never "really" encountered. She was shown in her totality later on in the issue. That is all.
Are YOU serious?The Cosmic Tour covered everyone from the PF up the LT and everything in between. Order, Chaos, Mephisto and other demons, Death, the Watchers, the Celestials, Galactus (so much for that "win" against him), etc...
So ON PANEL we have this information that is more recent that SWII incident and all you have is an incorrect Handbook entry.
This is ridiculous. The aforementioned happenings in SWII were solidified by Death's OFFICIAL bio as recently at '06. What's not computing, bud?
Originally posted by zopzopI think it'd be clearer if you simply post the page immediately preceding the one you posted.
Except for the fact that they encounter MANY beings prior and in that same "Tier" as the Celestials there were other powers and principalities.It don't get much clearer than that.
So unless this changed ON PANEL at a later date, it stands. And if it did change, can someone post a scan?
Originally posted by Galan007
Death wasn't mentioned as one of the beings Kosmos never "really" encountered. She was shown in her totality later on in the issue. That is all.This is ridiculous. The handbook is solidified by the showings in SWII. What's not computing, bud?
The fact that my scan POST DATES SWII and all you have is a handbook entry. Produce a scan on panel that says the Beyonder killed Death and I'll gladly STFU.
Originally posted by Galan007
The handbook entry correlates with, and solidifies, on panel showings, kiddo. That's the best type of comic book evidence that exists. Not joking.
You'd best be joking. As Handbooks aren't proof of anything.
On panel, we have Kubik stating she never fought or encountered ANY of these beings they are seeing on their tour in her former existence, only shadows sent by the great powers to ease the Beyonder into awareness.
It's right there on panel! Now produce on panel evidence that this was changed/retconned into something different.
