Originally posted by Daredevil1
Is his stamina better then every other human like Daredevil, Batman, Cass, Elektra, Shiva? No. Ok then.Not my fault you couldn't prove its enhanced stamina. Not my fault you can't back up what you claim.
Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't need to be because they have enhanced stamina as well...my god facepalm He was sitting down and it happened. That doesn't mean he needed to be sitting down for it to happen, hence the, "almost unconsciously". I assume you are able to walk and chew gum, right? He wasn't sitting down when he healed someone else with his chi. Also, as I mentioned, he has meditated, while fighting.
Right Batman, Daredevil have enhanced stamina as well.....LOL.
Right because chewing gum and walking is the same as fighting/healing at the same time.....LOL
Originally posted by jalek moye
When I get home I'll see about getting that Stamina scan. But really neither side tends to even think it will take that long so why are we still on this?
Why who said's a fight like this. Two of the earths best won't go the distance.
Why wouldn't it. You really think Danny will KO him that quick. You are certainly under selling Steve here. Why are you on the he'll end this quick type of thing. Honeslty its the Danny side that believes this fight won't go the distance. So why shouldn't I bring it up.
Originally posted by Daredevil1Yes, they do. When their stamina is beyond the level of any human, it is enhanced. It may help if you knew what the word "enhanced" meant.
Right Batman, Daredevil have enhanced stamina as well.....LOL.Right because chewing gum and walking is the same as fighting/healing at the same time.....LOL
It is when you are able to heal almost unconsciously. Let me guess, "unconsciously" is another word you do not know the meaning of.
You really think neither can each other in less than a few hours? I'm positive Danny can do it way less and if Steve consistently gets hits with his shield he would also.
While Yes i do think Danny would win in less then a few hours, not because i think Steve sucks but because that's an insane amount of time for a fight like this.
Even if Danny didn't win it wouldn't take that long.
Why shouldn't you bring it up, because your side thinks that Steve will ko him in a few hits. When both believes something like that i don't see how neither side would get this for hours. every fight they have against similar masters says otherwise.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
And yet your claim of Danny not using chi is unproven.
Should you be the one to prove he's using chi, and not vice versa..?
Anyways, even if he always uses chi in some form, it's an "always on" power.. He's always amped up by it. Not like his Iron Fist, which he has to activate.
Considering his feats when he lost the Iron Fist chi, or before he earned it.
Originally posted by cdtm
Should you be the one to prove he's using chi, and not vice versa..?Anyways, even if he always uses chi in some form, it's an "always on" power.. He's always amped up by it. Not like his Iron Fist, which he has to activate.
Considering his feats when he lost the Iron Fist chi, or before he earned it.
While it is always on, He draws in various amount of power from it. The Chi actually comes from the Shou-Lao the undying. They can use just enough chi to stay healthy or then can summon enough to be many times more powerful than they normally are. it's how Iron Fist's work.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yes, they do. When their stamina is beyond the level of any human, it is enhanced. It may help if you knew what the word "enhanced" meant.It is when you are able to heal almost unconsciously. Let me guess, "unconsciously" is another word you do not know the meaning of.
No evidence for either I see. Shouldn't be that hard but I guess for you it is.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah his foot was so ok he could run away still easily....LOL. The Ironfist punch that Danny took didn't really look on the level. That's for sure.
Classic Batroc's damage soak was insane.
You're really downplaying that feat.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
To be fair I only brought it up because Danny fans were sure that Danny's head is durable enough to with stand a full on Iron Fist technique.But that scan sure fails to illustrate that it was indeed a very maxed out power full one hence why I brought up Batroc.
Never said that.
Originally posted by Trackz
Danny doesn't need to use a hellicarrier busting attack to put down Cap.Every Ironfist has the potential to send Steve flying if he blocks it or not. Ironfist is a powerhouse in this fight and Cap's shield isn't enough to get him the win.
Cap's shield can defend against and put down IF. You're clearly underestimating Steve.
Speed:http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capspeed1pn6.jpg
Durability:http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capbatterinram3ku4.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capbatterinram4sq5.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capbatterinram5tm4.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capbatterinram6lj1.jpg
In the aftermath of all that damage:http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=battterinram9mq5.jpg
Note:Red Skull was wearing a suit that gave him superhuman stats.
Strength/reaction time:http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericastrenf2no0.jpg
Shield durability:http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capagainstthorue6.jpg
Note: That's an lighting bolt from Thor's hammer
Shield throwing/reaction time:http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s3jp4.jpg
Speed/agility/reaction time:http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wow1cg3.jpg
Physical conditioning/twenty mile warmed up run:http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4718/ca09006iu1.jpg
Shield control/accuracy:http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7002/captainamericavol407p14dh1.jpg
Fighting skills/solos a large group of armed dark elf warriors (without shield or any weapons):
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/avengersprime01pg1516co.jpg/
http://img132.imageshack.us/i/avengersprime01pg20copy.jpg/
I'm not underestimating Steve at all, he's one of marvel's best. Ironfist is just better.
The ironfist scans that have been posted are better than the ones you just posted.
His speed is on another level, their skill is comparable, but the sheer power that Danny possesses eclipses Steve's. You brought up that one fight between Danny and Cap, notice that even a weakened ironfist that Cap blocked with the shield sent him flying. Ironfist now has much more power and can deal blows like that out with much more proficiency and accuracy. Cap can obviously put up a fight against anyone, but he isn't going to win this one.
I mean a possessed Ironfist was smacking around WarMachine before Dr. strange aided Jim.
Better in your opinion maybe. There are scans here that show Cap performing feats that were better and that Danny couldn't duplicate (without chi amping).
Cap knows of Danny's power and is more tactically sound. No debate there. Cap won't get caught off guard twice, and has what it's take to put IF down with well placed attacks. Again experience goes to Steve. Cap has beaten foes who are stronger than Danny and faster and has block stronger attacks than what Danny will dish out here.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap knows of Danny's power
I don't think so. He's been kinda busy being dead when Fist worked with New Avengers and since his return they haven't been working closely with each other.
Of course you could assume that now as the commander of new shield he knows everything about everyone, but c'mon...
