Yoda & Obi-Wan vs Saruman & Sauron
The combatants face each other in the ruins of an ancient Temple that is full of dark side energy and dark magic. Sauron is in his physical form and is equipped with the Ring. This is Yoda & Obi-Wan from RoTS - no rules. Both sides are each armed with their standard weapons - swords, armor & lightsabers. To make it fair, the swords cannot be broken by a lightsaber blade. Who wins?
Well Saruman and Sauron are both Maiars, or demi-gods. Technically, they should be extremely powerful. Sauron is able to cut down entire battalions of men and elves at the Battle of Dagorlad at the beginning of Jackson's FOTR. Saruman fires destructive thunderbolts in Ralph Bakshi's film adaptation and a fireball in the extended edition of Jackson's ROTK; he also controls the weather in Jackson's FOTR. Since Sauron is the most powerful of the Maiar, it isn't unreasonable to conclude he has access to stronger versions of these powers. In addition, the Witch King demonstrates the power to shatter items (such as Gandalf's staff) [though this crap doesn't occur in the book], and burn weaponry. If Sauron bestowed this power to the Witch King, it's evident he has these skills as well.
AND Sauron only "lost" to Isildur because he bound most of his powers into the One Ring, and when that was removed from his body, he was only left as a spirit.
Are we assuming that Sauron is at full strength but doesn't have to worry about Yoda chopping off his finger or Force Pull-ing away the ring?
Anyway, that being said, if Yoda can beat Voldemort (haha Quan 😉 ), and Obi-Wan also has strong precognition and speed, who knows how this duel would turn out?
Originally posted by Korto VosHaven't you humiliated Yoda enough, vos ?
Well Saruman and Sauron are both Maiars, or demi-gods. Technically, they should be extremely powerful. Sauron is able to cut down entire battalions of men and elves at the Battle of Dagorlad at the beginning of Jackson's FOTR. Saruman fires destructive thunderbolts in Ralph Bakshi's film adaptation and a fireball in the extended edition of Jackson's ROTK; he also controls the weather in Jackson's FOTR. Since Sauron is the most powerful of the Maiar, it isn't unreasonable to conclude he has access to stronger versions of these powers. In addition, the Witch King demonstrates the power to shatter items (such as Gandalf's staff) [though this crap doesn't occur in the book], and burn weaponry. If Sauron bestowed this power to the Witch King, it's evident he has these skills as well.AND Sauron only "lost" to Isildur because he bound most of his powers into the One Ring, and when that was removed from his body, he was only left as a spirit.
Are we assuming that Sauron is at full strength but doesn't have to worry about Yoda chopping off his finger or Force Pull-ing away the ring?
Anyway, that being said, if Yoda can beat Voldemort (haha Quan 😉 ), and Obi-Wan also has strong precognition and speed, who knows how this duel would turn out?
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Kinda sad how no one ever weighed in on our battlezone.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Haven't you humiliated Yoda enough, vos ?😛
Kinda sad how no one ever weighed in on our battlezone.
Dude, you have to admit that there probably hasn't been a more detailed argument/analysis given for the movie incarnation of Yoda in the entire Internet than my Battlezone posts.
And yeah...that was kinda sad....
Originally posted by MindsetSauron solos you zombie lover.
Star wars team wins, we are all agreed.
Originally posted by Korto VosIt was quite a rumba.
Dude, you have to admit that there probably hasn't been a more detailed argument/analysis given for the movie incarnation of Yoda in the entire Internet than my Battlezone posts.And yeah...that was kinda sad....
At least the argument will live on forever or when this place shuts down in a year or so. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by MindsetYes.
Zombie lover?
Originally posted by Korto VosThe extent wasn't shown but implied. I admit it is hard to gauge Sauron especially since we saw him in combat for around a minute or so but what he did do was very impressive and what his power did create the Nazgul, etc. Even his own death knocked both entire armies to the ground when he became separated from his ring.
Honestly the extent of Saruman and Saurons's powers aren't ever shown.